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Re: Welcome to the Knicks Tyler Kolek 

Post#101 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:41 pm

Stannis wrote:Maybe I'm just being hopeful, but I think he will get playing time. Thibs is going to have to expand his regular season rotations.


There will be injuries during the season so ... Thibs will just reduce the rotation. :lol:
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Post#102 » by NYKinMIA » Fri Jun 28, 2024 9:45 pm

the more highlights I watch of Coca Kolek, the more I want to drink soda.

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Re: Welcome to the Knicks Tyler Kolek 

Post#103 » by Zenzibar » Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:24 pm

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Gravy wrote:You sure? I heard Kolek's pretty much already as good as Brunson, a top 5 NBA player...

I get it, Knicks fans don’t watch college basketball or follow the nba draft closely, but Kolek is one of the most nba ready players in this draft. We needed a backup PG to actually run the offense, that’s not Deuce’s strength. But the good thing is you can play them both together if needed. It’s not Deuce’s replacement but someone that brings a missing element to our bench.


If he plays, I dont see how Tyler wouldn’t cut into Deuce’s minutes mainly though.

Here’s the rough breakdown of our likely minutes:

Jalen 35 / Deuce 13
Mikal 24 / Donte 24
OG 18 / Josh 24 / Mikal 6
Julius 34 / OG 14
Isaiah 28 / Mitch 20

Deuce, Donte, and Josh are already getting their minutes cut with the addition of Mikal.

Our 2nd unit needs a PG. Yeah Deuce and Tyler can play together, but then Josh or Donte get reduced even more.

We’re getting ahead of ourselves here obviously since Tyler may not pan out, but Deuce better get his PG abilities up asap because we’re trying to win a ring here. Mikal has reduced the need for Deuce a bit in general also.


My Guy, NY is slated to be the #1 defense in the league, all due to the Bill Parcell's like mindset Thibs has. Successful NY teams are built on defensive principles.

If and when Kolek, depending on the level of his hardvwork, gets all the rotation schemes, he's not cutting into Deuce's minutes.

Deuce came into the league with a strong defensive IQ and by now is a pretty experienced young guard.
Let's chill.

In any event alot of teams skipped over him probably because he's going to be challenged right off. This ain't high school or a decent NCAA conference.

What? In my wildest dreams, I still could't imagine we'd be in conversation for a Chip. No cap. Can't even keep up with this rise.
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Re: Welcome to the Knicks Tyler Kolek 

Post#104 » by nykballa2k4 » Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:18 am

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Post#105 » by G_K_F » Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:23 am

I want this guy in the rotation.
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Re: Welcome to the Knicks Tyler Kolek 

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Re: Welcome to the Knicks Tyler Kolek 

Post#107 » by robillionaire » Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:34 am

Zenzibar wrote:
TrueWarrior wrote:
ezmoney707 wrote:I get it, Knicks fans don’t watch college basketball or follow the nba draft closely, but Kolek is one of the most nba ready players in this draft. We needed a backup PG to actually run the offense, that’s not Deuce’s strength. But the good thing is you can play them both together if needed. It’s not Deuce’s replacement but someone that brings a missing element to our bench.


If he plays, I dont see how Tyler wouldn’t cut into Deuce’s minutes mainly though.

Here’s the rough breakdown of our likely minutes:

Jalen 35 / Deuce 13
Mikal 24 / Donte 24
OG 18 / Josh 24 / Mikal 6
Julius 34 / OG 14
Isaiah 28 / Mitch 20

Deuce, Donte, and Josh are already getting their minutes cut with the addition of Mikal.

Our 2nd unit needs a PG. Yeah Deuce and Tyler can play together, but then Josh or Donte get reduced even more.

We’re getting ahead of ourselves here obviously since Tyler may not pan out, but Deuce better get his PG abilities up asap because we’re trying to win a ring here. Mikal has reduced the need for Deuce a bit in general also.


My Guy, NY is slated to be the #1 defense in the league, all due to the Bill Parcell's like mindset Thibs has. Successful NY teams are built on defensive principles.

If and when Kolek, depending on the level of his hardvwork, gets all the rotation schemes, he's not cutting into Deuce's minutes.

Deuce came into the league with a strong defensive IQ and by now is a pretty experienced young guard.
Let's chill.

In any event alot of teams skipped over him probably because he's going to be challenged right off. This ain't high school or a decent NCAA conference.

What? In my wildest dreams, I still could't imagine we'd be in conversation for a Chip. No cap. Can't even keep up with this rise.


you’re saying he won’t play much because of his defense? Well Brunson is also not good on defense other than taking charges. Maybe he can teach that skill to Kolek. But the cool thing about this team is that there will always be an elite wing defender to help out. Kolek is 23 so more ready to contribute than a regular rookie, he led the ncaa in assists so he can actually get others involved as a pure PG if he doesn’t score himself, can shoot the 3. I think with his ability to orchestrate an offense he might crack the rotation at some point especially if we don’t bring in another vet PG
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Re: Welcome to the Knicks Tyler Kolek 

Post#108 » by Zenzibar » Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:50 am

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Zenzibar wrote:
TrueWarrior wrote:
If he plays, I dont see how Tyler wouldn’t cut into Deuce’s minutes mainly though.

Here’s the rough breakdown of our likely minutes:

Jalen 35 / Deuce 13
Mikal 24 / Donte 24
OG 18 / Josh 24 / Mikal 6
Julius 34 / OG 14
Isaiah 28 / Mitch 20

Deuce, Donte, and Josh are already getting their minutes cut with the addition of Mikal.

Our 2nd unit needs a PG. Yeah Deuce and Tyler can play together, but then Josh or Donte get reduced even more.

We’re getting ahead of ourselves here obviously since Tyler may not pan out, but Deuce better get his PG abilities up asap because we’re trying to win a ring here. Mikal has reduced the need for Deuce a bit in general also.


My Guy, NY is slated to be the #1 defense in the league, all due to the Bill Parcell's like mindset Thibs has. Successful NY teams are built on defensive principles.

If and when Kolek, depending on the level of his hardvwork, gets all the rotation schemes, he's not cutting into Deuce's minutes.

Deuce came into the league with a strong defensive IQ and by now is a pretty experienced young guard.
Let's chill.

In any event alot of teams skipped over him probably because he's going to be challenged right off. This ain't high school or a decent NCAA conference.

What? In my wildest dreams, I still could't imagine we'd be in conversation for a Chip. No cap. Can't even keep up with this rise.


you’re saying he won’t play much because of his defense? Well Brunson is also not good on defense other than taking charges. Maybe he can teach that skill to Kolek. But the cool thing about this team is that there will always be an elite wing defender to help out. Kolek is 23 so more ready to contribute than a regular rookie, he led the ncaa in assists so he can actually get others involved as a pure PG if he doesn’t score himself, can shoot the 3. I think with his ability to orchestrate an offense he might crack the rotation at some point especially if we don’t bring in another vet PG


Got you.

But unless McBride slides back, which I doubt, Kolec will play, no doubt, but will absolutely not be part of Thibs rotation, promise. Regardless of his passing skills. Haha, you don't know Thibs by now?
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Re: Welcome to the Knicks Tyler Kolek 

Post#109 » by GettinitDone » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:12 am

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Post#110 » by robillionaire » Sat Jun 29, 2024 1:26 am

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My Guy, NY is slated to be the #1 defense in the league, all due to the Bill Parcell's like mindset Thibs has. Successful NY teams are built on defensive principles.

If and when Kolek, depending on the level of his hardvwork, gets all the rotation schemes, he's not cutting into Deuce's minutes.

Deuce came into the league with a strong defensive IQ and by now is a pretty experienced young guard.
Let's chill.

In any event alot of teams skipped over him probably because he's going to be challenged right off. This ain't high school or a decent NCAA conference.

What? In my wildest dreams, I still could't imagine we'd be in conversation for a Chip. No cap. Can't even keep up with this rise.


you’re saying he won’t play much because of his defense? Well Brunson is also not good on defense other than taking charges. Maybe he can teach that skill to Kolek. But the cool thing about this team is that there will always be an elite wing defender to help out. Kolek is 23 so more ready to contribute than a regular rookie, he led the ncaa in assists so he can actually get others involved as a pure PG if he doesn’t score himself, can shoot the 3. I think with his ability to orchestrate an offense he might crack the rotation at some point especially if we don’t bring in another vet PG


Got you.

But unless McBride slides back, which I doubt, Kolec will play, no doubt, but will absolutely not be part of Thibs rotation, promise. Regardless of his passing skills. Haha, you don't know Thibs by now?


Well I mentioned this before but quickley played nearly 20mpg as a rookie backup pg and he also was quite a bit younger than Kolek. And we were the 4 seed. Toppin also played I think 11-12 mpg as backup PF as a rookie the same year, and grimes played 17mpg as a rookie and even started 6 games before injuries derailed his season. And these were all teams trying to win. So Thibs will absolutely play a rookie if he thinks they are worthy. But he will likely have to prove himself first
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Post#111 » by captvict » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:28 am

Thibs. will give the kid 10 mins at least. You could book that
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Post#112 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:48 am

robillionaire wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
TrueWarrior wrote:
If he plays, I dont see how Tyler wouldn’t cut into Deuce’s minutes mainly though.

Here’s the rough breakdown of our likely minutes:

Jalen 35 / Deuce 13
Mikal 24 / Donte 24
OG 18 / Josh 24 / Mikal 6
Julius 34 / OG 14
Isaiah 28 / Mitch 20

Deuce, Donte, and Josh are already getting their minutes cut with the addition of Mikal.

Our 2nd unit needs a PG. Yeah Deuce and Tyler can play together, but then Josh or Donte get reduced even more.

We’re getting ahead of ourselves here obviously since Tyler may not pan out, but Deuce better get his PG abilities up asap because we’re trying to win a ring here. Mikal has reduced the need for Deuce a bit in general also.


My Guy, NY is slated to be the #1 defense in the league, all due to the Bill Parcell's like mindset Thibs has. Successful NY teams are built on defensive principles.

If and when Kolek, depending on the level of his hardvwork, gets all the rotation schemes, he's not cutting into Deuce's minutes.

Deuce came into the league with a strong defensive IQ and by now is a pretty experienced young guard.
Let's chill.

In any event alot of teams skipped over him probably because he's going to be challenged right off. This ain't high school or a decent NCAA conference.

What? In my wildest dreams, I still could't imagine we'd be in conversation for a Chip. No cap. Can't even keep up with this rise.


you’re saying he won’t play much because of his defense? Well Brunson is also not good on defense other than taking charges. Maybe he can teach that skill to Kolek. But the cool thing about this team is that there will always be an elite wing defender to help out. Kolek is 23 so more ready to contribute than a regular rookie, he led the ncaa in assists so he can actually get others involved as a pure PG if he doesn’t score himself, can shoot the 3. I think with his ability to orchestrate an offense he might crack the rotation at some point especially if we don’t bring in another vet PG


Watching Kolek's clips there's no doubt this guy can shoot. That, plus the ability to handle the ball and be a tough SOB who can score in traffic among the trees like Brunson should appeal greatly to Thibs.

If he plays like blazes in SL and training camp and is not in G-League, I expect Thibs to play him some tester minutes if Kolek is sharp in practices.

One thing that stood out to me is he consistently maximizes his reach by getting full extension with his arms on drives. That only works offensively if you have a shooter's touch and he does.

From deep he has a quick release, almost as fast as Divo's.
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Post#113 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Jun 29, 2024 2:51 am

One thing is for sure, he ain't no Trevor Keels
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Post#114 » by Zenzibar » Sat Jun 29, 2024 3:56 am

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you’re saying he won’t play much because of his defense? Well Brunson is also not good on defense other than taking charges. Maybe he can teach that skill to Kolek. But the cool thing about this team is that there will always be an elite wing defender to help out. Kolek is 23 so more ready to contribute than a regular rookie, he led the ncaa in assists so he can actually get others involved as a pure PG if he doesn’t score himself, can shoot the 3. I think with his ability to orchestrate an offense he might crack the rotation at some point especially if we don’t bring in another vet PG


Got you.

But unless McBride slides back, which I doubt, Kolec will play, no doubt, but will absolutely not be part of Thibs rotation, promise. Regardless of his passing skills. Haha, you don't know Thibs by now?


Well I mentioned this before but quickley played nearly 20mpg as a rookie backup pg and he also was quite a bit younger than Kolek. And we were the 4 seed. Toppin also played I think 11-12 mpg as backup PF as a rookie the same year, and grimes played 17mpg as a rookie and even started 6 games before injuries derailed his season. And these were all teams trying to win. So Thibs will absolutely play a rookie if he thinks they are worthy. But he will likely have to prove himself first


That last sentence is all I'm saying.
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Post#115 » by Context » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:17 am

ezmoney707 wrote:I get it, Knicks fans don’t watch college basketball or follow the nba draft closely, but Kolek is one of the most nba ready players in this draft. We needed a backup PG to actually run the offense, that’s not Deuce’s strength. But the good thing is you can play them both together if needed. It’s not Deuce’s replacement but someone that brings a missing element to our bench.
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Post#116 » by Context » Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:56 am

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Post#117 » by Guano » Sat Jun 29, 2024 5:13 am

Nice to see tempered rational expectations.
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Post#118 » by NiceLikeChrist » Sat Jun 29, 2024 6:47 am

Based on his game tape it looks like OG would love playing with him
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Post#119 » by Knick4Real » Sat Jun 29, 2024 8:35 am

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Also list the Nets as one of the biggest losers lol.


CBS sports gave the IQ pick a D+ and the Brunson free agent signing a D+ so this scares me if nothing else :lol:


That was just typical KNICKS hate from that era. Everybody was doing it. Now, it's trendy to love the KNICKS again and actually discuss us fairly. I think their impressions were spot on.
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