Stannis wrote:Maybe I'm just being hopeful, but I think he will get playing time. Thibs is going to have to expand his regular season rotations.
There will be injuries during the season so ... Thibs will just reduce the rotation.
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Stannis wrote:Maybe I'm just being hopeful, but I think he will get playing time. Thibs is going to have to expand his regular season rotations.
TrueWarrior wrote:ezmoney707 wrote:Gravy wrote:You sure? I heard Kolek's pretty much already as good as Brunson, a top 5 NBA player...
I get it, Knicks fans don’t watch college basketball or follow the nba draft closely, but Kolek is one of the most nba ready players in this draft. We needed a backup PG to actually run the offense, that’s not Deuce’s strength. But the good thing is you can play them both together if needed. It’s not Deuce’s replacement but someone that brings a missing element to our bench.
If he plays, I dont see how Tyler wouldn’t cut into Deuce’s minutes mainly though.
Here’s the rough breakdown of our likely minutes:
Jalen 35 / Deuce 13
Mikal 24 / Donte 24
OG 18 / Josh 24 / Mikal 6
Julius 34 / OG 14
Isaiah 28 / Mitch 20
Deuce, Donte, and Josh are already getting their minutes cut with the addition of Mikal.
Our 2nd unit needs a PG. Yeah Deuce and Tyler can play together, but then Josh or Donte get reduced even more.
We’re getting ahead of ourselves here obviously since Tyler may not pan out, but Deuce better get his PG abilities up asap because we’re trying to win a ring here. Mikal has reduced the need for Deuce a bit in general also.
Zenzibar wrote:TrueWarrior wrote:ezmoney707 wrote:I get it, Knicks fans don’t watch college basketball or follow the nba draft closely, but Kolek is one of the most nba ready players in this draft. We needed a backup PG to actually run the offense, that’s not Deuce’s strength. But the good thing is you can play them both together if needed. It’s not Deuce’s replacement but someone that brings a missing element to our bench.
If he plays, I dont see how Tyler wouldn’t cut into Deuce’s minutes mainly though.
Here’s the rough breakdown of our likely minutes:
Jalen 35 / Deuce 13
Mikal 24 / Donte 24
OG 18 / Josh 24 / Mikal 6
Julius 34 / OG 14
Isaiah 28 / Mitch 20
Deuce, Donte, and Josh are already getting their minutes cut with the addition of Mikal.
Our 2nd unit needs a PG. Yeah Deuce and Tyler can play together, but then Josh or Donte get reduced even more.
We’re getting ahead of ourselves here obviously since Tyler may not pan out, but Deuce better get his PG abilities up asap because we’re trying to win a ring here. Mikal has reduced the need for Deuce a bit in general also.
My Guy, NY is slated to be the #1 defense in the league, all due to the Bill Parcell's like mindset Thibs has. Successful NY teams are built on defensive principles.
If and when Kolek, depending on the level of his hardvwork, gets all the rotation schemes, he's not cutting into Deuce's minutes.
Deuce came into the league with a strong defensive IQ and by now is a pretty experienced young guard.
Let's chill.
In any event alot of teams skipped over him probably because he's going to be challenged right off. This ain't high school or a decent NCAA conference.
What? In my wildest dreams, I still could't imagine we'd be in conversation for a Chip. No cap. Can't even keep up with this rise.
robillionaire wrote:Zenzibar wrote:TrueWarrior wrote:
If he plays, I dont see how Tyler wouldn’t cut into Deuce’s minutes mainly though.
Here’s the rough breakdown of our likely minutes:
Jalen 35 / Deuce 13
Mikal 24 / Donte 24
OG 18 / Josh 24 / Mikal 6
Julius 34 / OG 14
Isaiah 28 / Mitch 20
Deuce, Donte, and Josh are already getting their minutes cut with the addition of Mikal.
Our 2nd unit needs a PG. Yeah Deuce and Tyler can play together, but then Josh or Donte get reduced even more.
We’re getting ahead of ourselves here obviously since Tyler may not pan out, but Deuce better get his PG abilities up asap because we’re trying to win a ring here. Mikal has reduced the need for Deuce a bit in general also.
My Guy, NY is slated to be the #1 defense in the league, all due to the Bill Parcell's like mindset Thibs has. Successful NY teams are built on defensive principles.
If and when Kolek, depending on the level of his hardvwork, gets all the rotation schemes, he's not cutting into Deuce's minutes.
Deuce came into the league with a strong defensive IQ and by now is a pretty experienced young guard.
Let's chill.
In any event alot of teams skipped over him probably because he's going to be challenged right off. This ain't high school or a decent NCAA conference.
What? In my wildest dreams, I still could't imagine we'd be in conversation for a Chip. No cap. Can't even keep up with this rise.
you’re saying he won’t play much because of his defense? Well Brunson is also not good on defense other than taking charges. Maybe he can teach that skill to Kolek. But the cool thing about this team is that there will always be an elite wing defender to help out. Kolek is 23 so more ready to contribute than a regular rookie, he led the ncaa in assists so he can actually get others involved as a pure PG if he doesn’t score himself, can shoot the 3. I think with his ability to orchestrate an offense he might crack the rotation at some point especially if we don’t bring in another vet PG
Zenzibar wrote:robillionaire wrote:Zenzibar wrote:
My Guy, NY is slated to be the #1 defense in the league, all due to the Bill Parcell's like mindset Thibs has. Successful NY teams are built on defensive principles.
If and when Kolek, depending on the level of his hardvwork, gets all the rotation schemes, he's not cutting into Deuce's minutes.
Deuce came into the league with a strong defensive IQ and by now is a pretty experienced young guard.
Let's chill.
In any event alot of teams skipped over him probably because he's going to be challenged right off. This ain't high school or a decent NCAA conference.
What? In my wildest dreams, I still could't imagine we'd be in conversation for a Chip. No cap. Can't even keep up with this rise.
you’re saying he won’t play much because of his defense? Well Brunson is also not good on defense other than taking charges. Maybe he can teach that skill to Kolek. But the cool thing about this team is that there will always be an elite wing defender to help out. Kolek is 23 so more ready to contribute than a regular rookie, he led the ncaa in assists so he can actually get others involved as a pure PG if he doesn’t score himself, can shoot the 3. I think with his ability to orchestrate an offense he might crack the rotation at some point especially if we don’t bring in another vet PG
Got you.
But unless McBride slides back, which I doubt, Kolec will play, no doubt, but will absolutely not be part of Thibs rotation, promise. Regardless of his passing skills. Haha, you don't know Thibs by now?
robillionaire wrote:Zenzibar wrote:TrueWarrior wrote:
If he plays, I dont see how Tyler wouldn’t cut into Deuce’s minutes mainly though.
Here’s the rough breakdown of our likely minutes:
Jalen 35 / Deuce 13
Mikal 24 / Donte 24
OG 18 / Josh 24 / Mikal 6
Julius 34 / OG 14
Isaiah 28 / Mitch 20
Deuce, Donte, and Josh are already getting their minutes cut with the addition of Mikal.
Our 2nd unit needs a PG. Yeah Deuce and Tyler can play together, but then Josh or Donte get reduced even more.
We’re getting ahead of ourselves here obviously since Tyler may not pan out, but Deuce better get his PG abilities up asap because we’re trying to win a ring here. Mikal has reduced the need for Deuce a bit in general also.
My Guy, NY is slated to be the #1 defense in the league, all due to the Bill Parcell's like mindset Thibs has. Successful NY teams are built on defensive principles.
If and when Kolek, depending on the level of his hardvwork, gets all the rotation schemes, he's not cutting into Deuce's minutes.
Deuce came into the league with a strong defensive IQ and by now is a pretty experienced young guard.
Let's chill.
In any event alot of teams skipped over him probably because he's going to be challenged right off. This ain't high school or a decent NCAA conference.
What? In my wildest dreams, I still could't imagine we'd be in conversation for a Chip. No cap. Can't even keep up with this rise.
you’re saying he won’t play much because of his defense? Well Brunson is also not good on defense other than taking charges. Maybe he can teach that skill to Kolek. But the cool thing about this team is that there will always be an elite wing defender to help out. Kolek is 23 so more ready to contribute than a regular rookie, he led the ncaa in assists so he can actually get others involved as a pure PG if he doesn’t score himself, can shoot the 3. I think with his ability to orchestrate an offense he might crack the rotation at some point especially if we don’t bring in another vet PG
robillionaire wrote:Zenzibar wrote:robillionaire wrote:
you’re saying he won’t play much because of his defense? Well Brunson is also not good on defense other than taking charges. Maybe he can teach that skill to Kolek. But the cool thing about this team is that there will always be an elite wing defender to help out. Kolek is 23 so more ready to contribute than a regular rookie, he led the ncaa in assists so he can actually get others involved as a pure PG if he doesn’t score himself, can shoot the 3. I think with his ability to orchestrate an offense he might crack the rotation at some point especially if we don’t bring in another vet PG
Got you.
But unless McBride slides back, which I doubt, Kolec will play, no doubt, but will absolutely not be part of Thibs rotation, promise. Regardless of his passing skills. Haha, you don't know Thibs by now?
Well I mentioned this before but quickley played nearly 20mpg as a rookie backup pg and he also was quite a bit younger than Kolek. And we were the 4 seed. Toppin also played I think 11-12 mpg as backup PF as a rookie the same year, and grimes played 17mpg as a rookie and even started 6 games before injuries derailed his season. And these were all teams trying to win. So Thibs will absolutely play a rookie if he thinks they are worthy. But he will likely have to prove himself first
ezmoney707 wrote:I get it, Knicks fans don’t watch college basketball or follow the nba draft closely, but Kolek is one of the most nba ready players in this draft. We needed a backup PG to actually run the offense, that’s not Deuce’s strength. But the good thing is you can play them both together if needed. It’s not Deuce’s replacement but someone that brings a missing element to our bench.

NYKinMIA wrote:the more highlights I watch of Coca Kolek, the more I want to drink soda.
"that boy good"

Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
NiceLikeChrist wrote:We are going to deeply regret this. We traded away the best player in the trade and still had to give up a great role player AND a pick?
so many people are going to eat their words about randle
robillionaire wrote:DOT wrote:These guys love him for us, for what it's worth
Also list the Nets as one of the biggest losers lol.
CBS sports gave the IQ pick a D+ and the Brunson free agent signing a D+ so this scares me if nothing else
