Jalen Brunson obsession

[BKlutch]

Brunson's nice but he's a low-end All-Star if not a fringe one. Great player to have, but you still need the big piece.

This is a bad look for you, no matter what you're wearing. We NEEDED a good PG and a star player. We got a VERY GOOD (or better) PG and he has done for our team what no great scorer could have done. We now have the semblance of an offense, and we should expect it to continue improving.

We still need a great new piece, but we also did far better than expected with Jalen. There is no point in denying what he brings. Now if or when we get the additional star, we should be able to contend. Without JB, it would be a repeat of our sad history: MacAdoo, MyDyess, McDaniels, Melo, etc., etc., etc.

How is it a bad look?

He is a low-end All-Star, if he even makes the team. He'll likely be one of the last players selected by the coaches, assuming he makes the cut.

Brunson's a great piece to have but he's just not elite. Without an elite player, we'll be a treadmill team with a pretty low ceiling (first-round exit). This is what we need to take the next step. Brunson was a step in the right direction though.

The guy is very good, and he's working his butt off. He's giving us a lot more than we thought he would, and he's giving us a lot of what we needed. Now we're in the position where one large upgrade could put us into the mix. Before Brunson, we could have traded for almost anyone (except for a rare handful -- and they aren't available) and not won.

This was the right step, in the right order, and he doesn't seem to be a flash in the pan. It's really that your comment misses what many of us see as the main issue here. He may be a fringe allstar, but I recall that Frazier wasn't a perennial Allstar (he did make it 7 of his 16 seasons). Except we won with him. In 1973, we wouldn't have won without getting Earl Monroe, one guard he could never defend well. Yet many would say Frazier was our best PG ever.

There's a chance -- a chance -- that Brunson could play a similar role. It's really up to the FO to get us what else we need. But it's palpable that we're closer now than before.

[Chanel Bomber]

This is a bad look for you, no matter what you're wearing. We NEEDED a good PG and a star player. We got a VERY GOOD (or better) PG and he has done for our team what no great scorer could have done. We now have the semblance of an offense, and we should expect it to continue improving.

We still need a great new piece, but we also did far better than expected with Jalen. There is no point in denying what he brings. Now if or when we get the additional star, we should be able to contend. Without JB, it would be a repeat of our sad history: MacAdoo, MyDyess, McDaniels, Melo, etc., etc., etc.

How is it a bad look?

He is a low-end All-Star, if he even makes the team. He'll likely be one of the last players selected by the coaches, assuming he makes the cut.

Brunson's a great piece to have but he's just not elite. Without an elite player, we'll be a treadmill team with a pretty low ceiling (first-round exit). This is what we need to take the next step. Brunson was a step in the right direction though.

The guy is very good, and he's working his butt off. He's giving us a lot more than we thought he would, and he's giving us a lot of what we needed. Now we're in the position where one large upgrade could put us into the mix. Before Brunson, we could have traded for almost anyone (except for a rare handful -- and they aren't available) and not won.

This was the right step, in the right order, and he doesn't seem to be a flash in the pan. It's really that your comment misses what many of us see as the main issue here. He may be a fringe allstar, but I recall that Frazier wasn't a perennial Allstar (he did make it 7 of his 16 seasons). Except we won with him. In 1973, we wouldn't have won without getting Earl Monroe, one guard he could never defend well. Yet many would say Frazier was our best PG ever.

There's a chance -- a chance -- that Brunson could play a similar role. It's really up to the FO to get us what else we need. But it's palpable that we're closer now than before.

Frazier was an elite player in his time. He's one of the greatest guards in the history of the NBA.

I don't think Brunson fits that description. He will not play a similar role for us, nor do I think it is fair to him to have those expectations.

I didn't say it wasn't a step in the right direction in terms of talent, so I don't know why you're arguing that as if I had alluded to the contrary.

Brunson's a good piece but the big piece(s) is still missing. Jalen's not gonna be the player to lead this franchise to great heights. He can be a very good lieutenant (2nd option maybe with a generational talent maybe, probably 3rd option with great table setter ability) in due time, however.

[robillionaire]

Brunson's nice but he's a low-end All-Star if not a fringe one. Great player to have, but you still need the big piece.

I agree we still need a top star but nobody wants to come unless you have a core in place, so having a fringe all star at PG is a step in the right direction to getting the big piece

[Fat Kat]

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[stuporman]

To be fair...Brunson hits the shot and the narrative is an absolute 180 even though the 4th quarter collapses are quite concerning.

[KnicksGadfly]

No star is gonna hit 100% in crunch time. I still trust Brunson with the ball then more than anybody.

As for Randle, I don’t blame him for not being clutch. He can help the team in lots of ways, and can live up to his contract even when he’s not clutch. Just keep up the effort and play within his limits.

[Chanel Bomber]

Brunson's nice but he's a low-end All-Star if not a fringe one. Great player to have, but you still need the big piece.

I agree we still need a top star but nobody wants to come unless you have a core in place, so having a fringe all star at PG is a step in the right direction to getting the big piece

Yes that I agree with

[DrCoach]

The addition of Brunson makes us prime to get a star

[ozwizard8]

Brunson's nice but he's a low-end All-Star if not a fringe one. Great player to have, but you still need the big piece.

I agree we still need a top star but nobody wants to come unless you have a core in place, so having a fringe all star at PG is a step in the right direction to getting the big piece

Having a low-end All-Star for less than a max contract is always a win.
I'd love to watch Brunson in Knicks uniform for years to come for sure. But also we need to realize that Brunson will be viewed as a pretty valuable trade asset by the next year. People slowly accepting he is a legit starter PG who can score 30 at will with a good efficiency. Being top 5 clutch player is also great. Lots of GMs must be banging their heads to wall for not signing him or trade&signfor him this offseason.

Leon Rose just added a legit asset you can trade for many picks.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Brunson's nice but he's a low-end All-Star if not a fringe one. Great player to have, but you still need the big piece.

I agree we still need a top star but nobody wants to come unless you have a core in place, so having a fringe all star at PG is a step in the right direction to getting the big piece

Having a low-end All-Star for less than a max contract is always a win.
I'd love to watch Brunson in Knicks uniform for years to come for sure. But also we need to realize that Brunson will be viewed as a pretty valuable trade asset by the next year. People slowly accepting he is a legit starter PG who can score 30 at will with a good efficiency. Being top 5 clutch player is also great. Lots of GMs must be banging their heads to wall for not signing him or trade&signfor him this offseason.

Leon Rose just added a legit asset you can trade for many picks.

You don't trade Brunson. That's blasphemy.

[KNICKS007]

Brunson's nice but he's a low-end All-Star if not a fringe one. Great player to have, but you still need the big piece.

I agree we still need a top star but nobody wants to come unless you have a core in place, so having a fringe all star at PG is a step in the right direction to getting the big piece

Having a low-end All-Star for less than a max contract is always a win.
I'd love to watch Brunson in Knicks uniform for years to come for sure. But also we need to realize that Brunson will be viewed as a pretty valuable trade asset by the next year. People slowly accepting he is a legit starter PG who can score 30 at will with a good efficiency. Being top 5 clutch player is also great. Lots of GMs must be banging their heads to wall for not signing him or trade&signfor him this offseason.

Leon Rose just added a legit asset you can trade for many picks.

You lost me on the last sentence, why on earth would Brunson be traded for draft picks?

We just waited 30 yrs to get an above avg PG, and you already talking Brunson trades.

If it ain't for Lillard Luka or JA, brunson is my guy

[Jalen Bluntson]

I agree we still need a top star but nobody wants to come unless you have a core in place, so having a fringe all star at PG is a step in the right direction to getting the big piece

Having a low-end All-Star for less than a max contract is always a win.
I'd love to watch Brunson in Knicks uniform for years to come for sure. But also we need to realize that Brunson will be viewed as a pretty valuable trade asset by the next year. People slowly accepting he is a legit starter PG who can score 30 at will with a good efficiency. Being top 5 clutch player is also great. Lots of GMs must be banging their heads to wall for not signing him or trade&signfor him this offseason.

Leon Rose just added a legit asset you can trade for many picks.

You lost me on the last sentence, why on earth would Brunson be traded for draft picks?

We just waited 30 yrs to get an above avg PG, and you already talking Brunson trades.

If it ain't for Luka or JA, Brunson is my guy

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[Deeeez Knicks]

Great signing, without question. PG and leader such as Brunson is invaluable

I never thought we would get him between being over the cap and Dallas needing to bring him back. Very happy it worked out. His pops, good friend Arch, and growing up around the team certainly helped get him here

[prophet_of_rage]

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Shaq deferred in crunch time because of his free throw shooting, but he dominated for 3.75 quarters. Ewing came up small in crunch time frequently. Hell, Kobe just shot a lot not well in crunch time although he made his free throws. Vince Carter shrank in crunch time.

It isn't true that stars shine in these moments.

[Capn'O]

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Shaq deferred in crunch time because of his free throw shooting, but he dominated for 3.75 quarters. Ewing came up small in crunch time frequently. Hell, Kobe just shot a lot not well in crunch time although he made his free throws. Vince Carter shrank in crunch time.

It isn't true that stars shine in these moments.

Players who create their own shot well shine in crunch time. Julius just doesn't but he tries to a lot. Hopefully that phases out for good. There's a lot he does well.

[GONYK]

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The game slows down for Jalen in the last 5 mins. It speeds up for Julius.

[ozwizard8]

I agree we still need a top star but nobody wants to come unless you have a core in place, so having a fringe all star at PG is a step in the right direction to getting the big piece

Having a low-end All-Star for less than a max contract is always a win.
I'd love to watch Brunson in Knicks uniform for years to come for sure. But also we need to realize that Brunson will be viewed as a pretty valuable trade asset by the next year. People slowly accepting he is a legit starter PG who can score 30 at will with a good efficiency. Being top 5 clutch player is also great. Lots of GMs must be banging their heads to wall for not signing him or trade&signfor him this offseason.

Leon Rose just added a legit asset you can trade for many picks.

You lost me on the last sentence, why on earth would Brunson be traded for draft picks?

We just waited 30 yrs to get an above avg PG, and you already talking Brunson trades.

If it ain't for Lillard Luka or JA, brunson is my guy

I like Brunson a lot as I have been watching Mavs last couple seasons. I am pointing out that even if someone don't like Brunson for Knicks, we should acknowledge that L.Rose added a legit trade asset.

I think Portland would trade him for Lillard now. For Luka or KAT, perhaps next year you'd trade Brunson to OKC for picks and use picks on Luka deal? Just speculating... I'd love to see Luka and Brunson together at Knicks. **** Marc 'Dolan' Cuban.

[SergiuRoBuc]

As a Raps fan I'm willing to admit Brunson might just be a little better than VanVleet..

[Lord Commander]

As a Raps fan I'm willing to admit Brunson might just be a little better than VanVleet..

“Might”? “A little…”? How ‘bout you STFU AND GTFO?

[SergiuRoBuc]

As a Raps fan I'm willing to admit Brunson might just be a little better than VanVleet..

“Might”? “A little…”? How ‘bout you STFU AND GTFO?

Yeah well let's slow down a little.. Lord Commander , FVV is a proven championship/playoff performer, whereas JB is most certainly not. I'm not saying the latter is an empty stats guy, I actually like him and I think he's a little more skilled than FVV, but let's not lose our heads here by thinking there's a lot of separation between them.