2020 Presidential Election Thread: The Homestretch... Still

[Clyde_Style]

soooo not only does that not have an actual quote from him saying anything of the sort about only being President of the Red States, you actually provided proof to my point that Trump is all about state rights and not about being a Dictator or Supreme Authoritarian? The spin you guys put on things that are clear as day is extraordinary.

You didn't even read it. We're done

I asked for a direct quote and you gave me none. I could care less what the writers opinion is based off "sources" and second hand word manipulation.

Baby want pictures. Words bad. Goo goo goo

[Kampuchea]

soooo not only does that not have an actual quote from him saying anything of the sort about only being President of the Red States, you actually provided proof to my point that Trump is all about state rights and not about being a Dictator or Supreme Authoritarian? The spin you guys put on things that are clear as day is extraordinary.

You didn't even read it. We're done

I asked for a direct quote and you gave me none. I could care less what the writers opinion is based off "sources" and second hand word manipulation.

Ok you guys, this ones is a draw between you two. Moving on to the next topic

[Boss_]

^ Next topic..

Hotdogs are actually sandwiches. Change our minds.

[HarthorneWingo]

You didn't even read it. We're done

I asked for a direct quote and you gave me none. I could care less what the writers opinion is based off "sources" and second hand word manipulation.

Baby want pictures. Words bad. Goo goo goo

I wish I could’ve hung out on the NYC subways with you back in high school.

[Polk377]

You didn't even read it. We're done

I asked for a direct quote and you gave me none. I could care less what the writers opinion is based off "sources" and second hand word manipulation.

Baby want pictures. Words bad. Goo goo goo

Sorry lazy posting of articles that don't actually answer any real questions only works with your base. You said he called himself President of Red States Only. When I asked to show me when he ever said that, you gave me an article that had 2 actual quotes from the President and an opinion piece based off of nothing.

President Trump has on numerous occasions stated that these cities or states could do whatever they want but the Federal Government won't needlessly bail them out of their own radical problems. You can be a sanctuary city if you want but don't expect us to give you money that should be going to our citizens for your agenda. You can have "peaceful protests" if you want but don't expect the federal government to pay for the cleanup of the looting and rioting you are allowing to go on in these Cities. Again not the Federal Government's responsibility.

[Clyde_Style]

K



You just set yourself up for the George Carlin monologue on voting.

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Spoiler:

I voted by mail weeks ago, btw...

Carlin is a master and I still love him, but boy he got that one wrong. He's right about the root of it all, but wrong about the voting part. It's sad when an articulate guy like him who has such persuasive powers comes to the wrong conclusions, because right there in that clip is the genesis of America's slide into its current morass of trivial Both-Sides-Isms and false relativism. He actually dumbed down the conversation with his powers of persuasion.

If I were the Biden campaign, I'd take that clip and target every Republican on FB with it and get them to say fukit and stay home

Carlin went through a change towards the end where became, admittedly, less invested emotionally in politics and in our future as a human race. He came to the epiphany that this is just a big shyt show and he was here strictly now as an observer making fun of it all.

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@ 3:00 Carlin talks about how he's no longer invested in society and watches it from a distance.

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One of the criticisms of some forms of hindu or vedantic philosophies or even of the indian termperament is an excess of fatalism. Free will gets relegated to illusion. Your fate is ordained. There is a lot of cosmic wisdom that sometimes gets shortchanged by a sense of resignation to whatever will happen will happen.

And then you get to the Mahabarhata and Krishna counsels Arjuna on how to conduct themselves in life and in war. There is still duty and honor and action to take even in the face of seemingly insurmountable odds or distasteful situations that pit you against others, but you do it anyway.

Carlin was wise in many ways, but he was missing some of the pieces of the puzzle.

[bigfnjoe96]

President Trump has on numerous occasions stated that these cities or states could do whatever they want but the Federal Government won't needlessly bail them out of their own radical problems. You can be a sanctuary city if you want but don't expect us to give you money that should be going to our citizens for your agenda. You can have "peaceful protests" if you want but don't expect the federal government to pay for the cleanup of the looting and rioting you are allowing to go on in these Cities. Again not the Federal Government's responsibility.

Always interesting to see this argument. Democratic run states aren't asking for a bailout due to lawlessness. There asking for federal help because at the beginning of the pandemic, they had to bid against themselves and be price gauge for PPE and ventilators because as a nation we didn't even have enough of it.

Knowing the 1st case of covid was in early February. The federal govt didn't begin to secure and restock PPE and ventilators until the end of March, beginning of April. Basically 30 days later, and by then it was too late and pandemic was already widespread and over whelmed the health care system.

Then to top all that off, failed to pass a 2nd stimulus under the guise of "The lawless democratic run cities don't deserve a bailout" FOH....


McDonald Trump panicked and many americans have suffered for it, and tomorrow the roosters come home to roast.

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[Clyde_Style]

Baby want pictures. Words bad. Goo goo goo

Sorry lazy posting of articles that don't actually answer any real questions only works with your base. You said he called himself President of Red States Only. When I asked to show me when he ever said that, you gave me an article that had 2 actual quotes from the President and an opinion piece based off of nothing.

President Trump has on numerous occasions stated that these cities or states could do whatever they want but the Federal Government won't needlessly bail them out of their own radical problems. You can be a sanctuary city if you want but don't expect us to give you money that should be going to our citizens for your agenda. You can have "peaceful protests" if you want but don't expect the federal government to pay for the cleanup of the looting and rioting you are allowing to go on in these Cities. Again not the Federal Government's responsibility.

Always interesting to see this argument. Democratic run states aren't asking for a bailout due to lawlessness. There asking for federal help because at the beginning of the pandemic, they had to bid against themselves and be price gauge for PPE and ventilators because as a nation we didn't even have enough of it.

Knowing the 1st case of covid was in early February. The federal govt didn't begin to secure and restock PPE and ventilators until the end of March, beginning of April. Basically 30 days later, and by then it was too late and pandemic was already widespread and over whelmed the health care system.

McDonald Trump panicked and many americans have suffered for it, and tomorrow the roosters come home to roast.

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Sending PPE to China precisely when it was needed here

Kushner heading up a committee that authorized the hijacking by the feds of PPE shipments to blue states on the airport tarmac

So much went down that was more than mere negligence and incompetence

[Pointgod]

Clyde this one is for you buddy. I still think Trump wins Florida despite your best efforts but this is encouraging.

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I think the Villages turning on Trump was ominous for him. It is hard to break the spell on the over 70 crowd, but it broke hard. There are still lots of seniors voting Trump, but he couldn't afford to lose any of them. Plus, Florida has good turnout, so like other states it is getting lots of the votes of people who sat out last time thinking Hillary had it in the bag. I think it is close, so I don't think it is worth predicting here. If Trump wins, it will probably be by a tiny margin. If Biden wins, it could small or it could be 3-5%. No way of knowing yet. Biden does not have to win FL, but Trump clearly does. We'll probably know the outcome of FL tomorrow night.

Agreed. I lost hope with Florida when Gillum lost to that complete tool Desantis. Although I was reading a twitter thread and the theory is that Gillum lost a lot of the low key racist voters who would other wise vote for a Democrat and his association with the Bernie wing pretty much killed his standing with Cubans. even if this were true the race was close. Who knows what would happen, but I’m more bullish on the battle ground states where Democrats have won state wide office swinging Biden

[BallSacBounce]

I never paid any attention to what paper endorsed who but what the hell I'll take whatever help we can get.

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[BallSacBounce]

@BallSac there are no numbers from the protests bc WE ... WORE ... MASKS!

You already know this bc if you had numbers showing virus spread from the protests you would have posted them. You’ll also notice that the police also didn’t have virus spread from the protests. Ugh

Jeezus, really? We have a lot of work to do educating people.

Masks are proven to be of little to no use in stopping the spread.

U.S. Surgeon General explains why CDC recommends public does not wear masks

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6145988945001#sp=show-clips

Mar. 31, 2020 - 3:07 - U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams explains why the CDC and WHO do not recommend the general public wear masks and how doing so could increase your virus risk

Masks were a no ni before they were a yes yes. The science didn't change. It's political kabuki theater.

An Evidence Based Scientific Analysis of Why Masks are Ineffective, Unnecessary, and Harmful

https://www.meehanmd.com/blog/2020-10-10-an-evidence-based-scientific-analysis-of-why-masks-are-ineffective-unnecessary-and-harmful/

Key Points
Decades of the highest-level scientific evidence (meta-analyses of multiple randomized controlled trials) overwhelmingly conclude that medical masks are ineffective at preventing the transmission of respiratory viruses, including SAR-CoV-2.

Those arguing for masks are relying on low-level evidence (observational retrospective trials and mechanistic theories), none of which are powered to counter the evidence, arguments, and risks of mask mandates.

The majority of the population is at very low to almost no risk of severe or lethal disease from CoVID-19.

Children are at an extraordinarily low risk of dying from CoVID-19. Based on CDC published data, 99.99815% of children that contract CoVID-19 survive.

Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 among children in schools and daycares is very rare.

Masks worn properly are well documented to cause harm to their wearers.

Masks worn improperly, re-used, or contaminated are dangerous.Any reasonable risk to benefit analysis of medical masks concludes that the risks overwhelmingly outweigh the benefits.

Children are at imminent risk of harm from mask mandates.

Before you conveniently change subjects, shouldn’t you provide some evidence of black lives matter protests spreading coronavirus if you’re trying to prove that makes don’t work?

The studies weren't done on BLM why would that matter it's not like there is something specific about BLM that would cause a problem. I don't think BLM spread it either.

I consider the assertion that BLM didn't but MAGA did political bullspit.

[Polk377]

Sorry lazy posting of articles that don't actually answer any real questions only works with your base. You said he called himself President of Red States Only. When I asked to show me when he ever said that, you gave me an article that had 2 actual quotes from the President and an opinion piece based off of nothing.

President Trump has on numerous occasions stated that these cities or states could do whatever they want but the Federal Government won't needlessly bail them out of their own radical problems. You can be a sanctuary city if you want but don't expect us to give you money that should be going to our citizens for your agenda. You can have "peaceful protests" if you want but don't expect the federal government to pay for the cleanup of the looting and rioting you are allowing to go on in these Cities. Again not the Federal Government's responsibility.

Always interesting to see this argument. Democratic run states aren't asking for a bailout due to lawlessness. There asking for federal help because at the beginning of the pandemic, they had to bid against themselves and be price gauge for PPE and ventilators because as a nation we didn't even have enough of it.

Knowing the 1st case of covid was in early February. The federal govt didn't begin to secure and restock PPE and ventilators until the end of March, beginning of April. Basically 30 days later, and by then it was too late and pandemic was already widespread and over whelmed the health care system.

McDonald Trump panicked and many americans have suffered for it, and tomorrow the roosters come home to roast.

Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Read on Twitter

Sending PPE to China precisely when it was needed here

Kushner heading up a committee that authorized the hijacking by the feds of PPE shipments to blue states on the airport tarmac

So much went down that was more than mere negligence and incompetence

There is no validity to that claim. https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/factchecking-ad-about-donating-our-masks-and-supplies-to-china/

Another blatant lie.

[Pointgod]

Jeezus, really? We have a lot of work to do educating people.

Masks are proven to be of little to no use in stopping the spread.

U.S. Surgeon General explains why CDC recommends public does not wear masks

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6145988945001#sp=show-clips

Mar. 31, 2020 - 3:07 - U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams explains why the CDC and WHO do not recommend the general public wear masks and how doing so could increase your virus risk

Masks were a no ni before they were a yes yes. The science didn't change. It's political kabuki theater.

An Evidence Based Scientific Analysis of Why Masks are Ineffective, Unnecessary, and Harmful

https://www.meehanmd.com/blog/2020-10-10-an-evidence-based-scientific-analysis-of-why-masks-are-ineffective-unnecessary-and-harmful/

Before you conveniently change subjects, shouldn’t you provide some evidence of black lives matter protests spreading coronavirus if you’re trying to prove that makes don’t work?

The studies weren't done on BLM why would that matter it's not like there is something specific about BLM that would cause a problem. I don't think BLM spread it either.

I consider the assertion that BLM didn't but MAGA did political bullspit.

Man you walked right into this one. You should know better than to answer this without doing your own research.

However, researchers found “no evidence that urban protests reignited Covid-19 case growth during the more than three weeks following protest onset.”

The study’s conclusions are supported by Covid-19 testing data in many of the cities that were home to prevalent protesting. For instance, the Minneapolis Department of Health reported that more than 15,000 people were tested at centers set up in communities affected by the protests, and 1.7% of tests came back positive—below the statewide average of about 3.6%. According to the Washington Post, protest attendees in Minneapolis returned positivity rates of less than 1% and that “officials believe the low infection rates reflect that the protests were outside, that most people wore masks and that people spent most of their time in motion, circulating through the crowd.” NPR reported last week that parties—not protests—are believed to have caused coronavirus spikes in Washington. “We’re finding that the social events and gatherings, these parties where people aren’t wearing masks, are our primary source of infection,” said Erika Lautenbach, a local county Health Department director.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/07/01/research-determines-protests-did-not-cause-spike-in-coronavirus-cases/

You won’t see these studies on the **** sources that you use because they’re doing nothing but feeding you propaganda and misinformation. The research is clear and Trump’s rallies have been traced to increase in covid cases and deaths. And it makes sense because Trump is an irresponsible idiot who couldn’t protect himself and his own whitehouse from covid.... if you don’t believe me just ask Hermain Cain

[Capn'O]

^ Next topic..

Hotdogs are actually sandwiches. Change our minds.

RBG settled that one. Hotdogs are sandwiches.

[bigtimeRC3]

if you want this country to be like china, then vote for joe biden.

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[DOT]

RBG settled that one. Hotdogs are sandwiches.

Hot dogs are tacos.

[Capn'O]

RBG settled that one. Hotdogs are sandwiches.

Hot dogs are tacos.

That's not the way Venn Diagrams work, K-Dot.

[DOT]

RBG settled that one. Hotdogs are sandwiches.

Hot dogs are tacos.

That's not the way Venn Diagrams work, K-Dot.

Is a taco a sandwich?

[Polk377]

Before you conveniently change subjects, shouldn’t you provide some evidence of black lives matter protests spreading coronavirus if you’re trying to prove that makes don’t work?

The studies weren't done on BLM why would that matter it's not like there is something specific about BLM that would cause a problem. I don't think BLM spread it either.

I consider the assertion that BLM didn't but MAGA did political bullspit.

Man you walked right into this one. You should know better than to answer this without doing your own research.

However, researchers found “no evidence that urban protests reignited Covid-19 case growth during the more than three weeks following protest onset.”

The study’s conclusions are supported by Covid-19 testing data in many of the cities that were home to prevalent protesting. For instance, the Minneapolis Department of Health reported that more than 15,000 people were tested at centers set up in communities affected by the protests, and 1.7% of tests came back positive—below the statewide average of about 3.6%. According to the Washington Post, protest attendees in Minneapolis returned positivity rates of less than 1% and that “officials believe the low infection rates reflect that the protests were outside, that most people wore masks and that people spent most of their time in motion, circulating through the crowd.” NPR reported last week that parties—not protests—are believed to have caused coronavirus spikes in Washington. “We’re finding that the social events and gatherings, these parties where people aren’t wearing masks, are our primary source of infection,” said Erika Lautenbach, a local county Health Department director.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/07/01/research-determines-protests-did-not-cause-spike-in-coronavirus-cases/

You won’t see these studies on the **** sources that you use because they’re doing nothing but feeding you propaganda and misinformation. The research is clear and Trump’s rallies have been traced to increase in covid cases and deaths. And it makes sense because Trump is an irresponsible idiot who couldn’t protect himself and his own whitehouse from covid.... if you don’t believe me just ask Hermain Cain

citing your own fake studies to prove a point about fake news is hilarious.

[Polk377]

if you want this country to be like china, then vote for joe biden.

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Love Tim Pool. Has actual discussions around what is really going on without a previous bias.