Offseason Trades and Transaction Ideas Thread

[Polk377]

Fournier is on his way out. Given Perry connection, I say he is a lock. I prefer Lowry/Derozan duo but a trio of Fournier/Robinson/Ball or Dinwiddie is a real possibility.

These are the 2 scenarios I see playing out as well barring any trades. Both would be great for the Knicks.

[HarthorneWingo]

So what are your thoughts on FA? You have like what, $50 million? Do you think you go after PG and SG? Like a Ball/Fournier combo or something? That seems like that would be a major upgrade at those spots with Quickley and McBride behind Ball. Do you think you bring back Noel? Or use money in FA on a C? Start Robinson? I was thinking a lineup of Ball/Fournier/Barrett/Randle/Robinson would be interesting with a bench of the rookies, Quickley, maybe Rose, Burks, Bullock, Knox, Noel? Maybe Frank?

Maybe if not Fournier, DeRozan or Barton.

If not Ball, Graham, Shroder, Jackson?

I think Lowry or Conley would be a nice vet PG for your team but I imagine most don't want an older guy.

I'm seeing Dinwiddie and Fournier.

[Richard4444]

We need to find a deal for Knox. He is a cap space killer!!

[stuporman]

Knicks drafted two guards but still don't have a real PG on the roster.... wtf is wrong with this franchise that they can't get a true PG that worth a dam.

[Adelheid]

They look to get the pg in FA

[F N 11]

Looks like multiple people think we got the money to throw the bag at a veteran point.

Read on Twitter

[stuporman]

Draft after draft, FA after FA, trade after trade and still people believe this time it will be different...

When it happens I'll believe it, until then I remain skeptical.

[knickstape4ever]

Read on Twitter

-The Knicks are mentioned by league sources as a team that has expressed interest in Fournier, while New York has also been linked to Lakers guards Dennis Schroder and Talen Horton-Tucker

-Regardless of that outcome, there are strong indications from league sources that mutual interest exists between Derrick Rose and his storied hometown franchise, where he claimed league MVP honors in 2010-11. It's unclear how Knicks head coach Tom Thibodeau can stand in the way of the Bulls' potential advances

-After Charlotte acquired Mason Plumlee and Kai Jones on draft night, the Hornets are no longer considered a free-agent destination for centers, which may also help steer Nerlens Noel back to the Knicks

-Richaun Holmes is expected to return to Sacramento, sources said, although a market for Holmes may still exist with Dallas, New York and Toronto

-Dallas, San Antonio, New York and Miami are the rumored suitors for Kelly Oubre Jr. in free agency, sources said

[Jimmit79]

I want Lowry or CP3 as Knicks PG come on make it happen Leon pls no dwinddle.

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[knickstape4ever]

I want Lonzo

[thebuzzardman]

I know the FA class isn't great, and teams can go over the cap to match offers to RFAs, but there are some pretty good RFA's available, an the UFA class, while not great, has a few good players.

Knicks should be able to improve the team. The key is maintaining the ability to make it even better a year from now. Obviously there are debates in here about just how flexible or open that should be.

Meaning, there are scenarios put up where the Knicks trade for Sexton but also sign Ball as a wing. But that cuts into 2022 trade/FA market. Same thing for signing Fournier to go with someone.

Anyway, Knicks are looking for, at minimum, a starting PG and a starting SG or SF and a backup C.

THT is interesting. I'd see the Knicks going for him in the context of a trade for someone else, because I'm not going to overrate IQ, Vildoza, McBride, Grimes and RJ, but it would be getting a little crowded if it's THT and a PG along with those guys. Unless he's their starting SG target.

Then again, Lakers probably can't afford to lose any depth and are all in $ wise after adding Westbrook to Lebron and AD.

I kind of hope the Knicks take care of PG - so it's solved, then poison pill the Lakers on THT, if only to drive up their cap even more.

[thebuzzardman]

Here's a thought experiment.

Knicks gain Sexton, McBride, but lose Rose to the Bulls. Upgrade, downgrade or even?

[thebuzzardman]

I like that Oubre is linked to every team that has money. You can smell his agent's desperation.

[thebuzzardman]

Final thoughts of the AM

I get where fans want to get CP3. Or Lowry. Or Lillard. Or Beal.
I've also stated I think Beal is happening.

I'd rather the Knicks get some combination of Sexton, Ball, THT, Trent Jr, even Oubre - though Oubre would be last, after a few other players and definitely dependent on contract length and amount.

I can hear the arguments against it. "Not a contender". "That team is on the treadmill". "Capped out, for what?"

If done right, I think there can be a good playoff team that maintains most of it's assets, with players that are still young and can develop even more, and most crucially, players that are all attractive to other teams.

I wouldn't mind an iterative step of a couple of years of that and THEN the big move that puts the Knicks squarely into contention.

Realistically, the Knicks are going to go from outright sucking to contenders in two seasons - this offseason? I think not.

I'm just not against the kind of team indicated above. Could be good. Could be fun.

[nykballa2k4]

What I am saying is the threat of a well-over-30 pg on a giant contract he cant live up to is still looming and healthy.

Conley is basically 1 year away from being washed up at this point

I thought that in 2019 and he's been my favorite pg in the league for a while. But the guy had a great year.

Just since 2000's
Francis, Marbury, Bibby, Baren Davids, Chauncey Billups, Jason Kidd,

What is "point guards whose careers ended in New York" I'll take "Knicks being Knicks" for 500 Alex (RIP)

[thebuzzardman]

Conley is basically 1 year away from being washed up at this point

I thought that in 2019 and he's been my favorite pg in the league for a while. But the guy had a great year.

Just since 2000's
Francis, Marbury, Bibby, Baren Davids, Chauncey Billups, Jason Kidd,

What is "point guards whose careers ended in New York" I'll take "Knicks being Knicks" for 500 Alex (RIP)

There's enough young players in FA between RFA, UFA, and possible trade scenarios, where Knicks don't have to have some fossil PG.

That's why I want them to target Sexton/Ball/THT/Trent Jr. Maybe Oubre.

Let the team be young, for once.

[nykballa2k4]

Final thoughts of the AM

I get where fans want to get CP3. Or Lowry. Or Lillard. Or Beal.
I've also stated I think Beal is happening.

I'd rather the Knicks get some combination of Sexton, Ball, THT, Trent Jr, even Oubre - though Oubre would be last, after a few other players and definitely dependent on contract length and amount.

I can hear the arguments against it. "Not a contender". "That team is on the treadmill". "Capped out, for what?"

If done right, I think there can be a good playoff team that maintains most of it's assets, with players that are still young and can develop even more, and most crucially, players that are all attractive to other teams.

I wouldn't mind an iterative step of a couple of years of that and THEN the big move that puts the Knicks squarely into contention.

Realistically, the Knicks are going to go from outright sucking to contenders in two seasons - this offseason? I think not.

I'm just not against the kind of team indicated above. Could be good. Could be fun.

What asset you giving for Sexton?

[KnicksGadfly]

Final thoughts of the AM

I get where fans want to get CP3. Or Lowry. Or Lillard. Or Beal.
I've also stated I think Beal is happening.

I'd rather the Knicks get some combination of Sexton, Ball, THT, Trent Jr, even Oubre - though Oubre would be last, after a few other players and definitely dependent on contract length and amount.

I can hear the arguments against it. "Not a contender". "That team is on the treadmill". "Capped out, for what?"

If done right, I think there can be a good playoff team that maintains most of it's assets, with players that are still young and can develop even more, and most crucially, players that are all attractive to other teams.

I wouldn't mind an iterative step of a couple of years of that and THEN the big move that puts the Knicks squarely into contention.

Realistically, the Knicks are going to go from outright sucking to contenders in two seasons - this offseason? I think not.

I'm just not against the kind of team indicated above. Could be good. Could be fun.

Damn, had no idea you were such an optimist with Beal.

I’m starting backwards…what do I not want the Knicks to do?

So…no Shroeder, no Dimwitted, no Oubre. Not at market value anyway. Maybe I can be swayed on Oubre if someone gives me a good argument.

[thebuzzardman]

Final thoughts of the AM

I get where fans want to get CP3. Or Lowry. Or Lillard. Or Beal.
I've also stated I think Beal is happening.

I'd rather the Knicks get some combination of Sexton, Ball, THT, Trent Jr, even Oubre - though Oubre would be last, after a few other players and definitely dependent on contract length and amount.

I can hear the arguments against it. "Not a contender". "That team is on the treadmill". "Capped out, for what?"

If done right, I think there can be a good playoff team that maintains most of it's assets, with players that are still young and can develop even more, and most crucially, players that are all attractive to other teams.

I wouldn't mind an iterative step of a couple of years of that and THEN the big move that puts the Knicks squarely into contention.

Realistically, the Knicks are going to go from outright sucking to contenders in two seasons - this offseason? I think not.

I'm just not against the kind of team indicated above. Could be good. Could be fun.

What asset you giving for Sexton?

It'll probably take Obi and a pick

I like Ball, but he can't be a Knick unless the SG is elite at shot creation into the paint.
Or, Ball can be a Knick if the PG is a three level scorer/creator type.

So, I like both players, but they also kind of need another kind of player next to them, especially Ball.

Also, this is what I would "like" but I have no idea what they will do.

For all I know, they go Schroeder\Fournier.

[nykballa2k4]

I thought that in 2019 and he's been my favorite pg in the league for a while. But the guy had a great year.

Just since 2000's
Francis, Marbury, Bibby, Baren Davids, Chauncey Billups, Jason Kidd,

What is "point guards whose careers ended in New York" I'll take "Knicks being Knicks" for 500 Alex (RIP)

There's enough young players in FA between RFA, UFA, and possible trade scenarios, where Knicks don't have to have some fossil PG.

That's why I want them to target Sexton/Ball/THT/Trent Jr. Maybe Oubre.

Let the team be young, for once.

I don't hate it. THT would have to be a sign and trade because a balloon deal would be terrible.
Just don't want Schroder