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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1381 » by AllanHoustonFan » Fri Feb 1, 2013 3:31 am

Thugger HBC wrote:It's now reported as being with Thabo and Durant tried to intervene.

Russy must be difficult to play with. i think he would have been traded if he weren't so talented.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1382 » by moocow007 » Fri Feb 1, 2013 3:34 am

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Knicks94 is one of those clingy fans that overrates every decent past Knick player just because they didnt turn out to be Michael Sweetney or Lavor Postell. He also seriously believes Lin will average 20/10 someday. Just pat him on the head and whistle down the street.


I don't overrate every former Knick player that showed flashes of decency in past. I still think that Landry Fields and Toney Douglas are bums, Nate Robinson is a clown and Trevor Ariza and Channing Frye were draft mistakes.


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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1383 » by knicks94 » Fri Feb 1, 2013 3:36 am

I would trade Westbrook for any player on the Knicks that isn't named Carmelo Anthony. I don't know why anyone would compare Raymond Felton to him. They both might take a lot of shots but Westbrook seems like the player that could carry a below average team to the playoffs.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1384 » by Thugger HBC » Fri Feb 1, 2013 3:38 am

knicks94 wrote:I would trade Westbrook for any player on the Knicks that isn't named Carmelo Anthony. I don't know why anyone would compare Raymond Felton to him. They both might take a lot of shots but Westbrook seems like the player that could carry a below average team to the playoffs.

Westbrook is a top 10 player, no one compared Felton to him with seriousness.

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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1385 » by knicks94 » Fri Feb 1, 2013 3:44 am

No...just the one from Italy.


How am I overrating Gallo? When he's healthy he is one of the best second or third scoring options to have on a team that has a superstar.It's no coincidence that he is having his best offensive season in a season where he has played in almost every game.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1386 » by AllanHoustonFan » Fri Feb 1, 2013 3:46 am

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knicks94 wrote:I would trade Westbrook for any player on the Knicks that isn't named Carmelo Anthony. I don't know why anyone would compare Raymond Felton to him. They both might take a lot of shots but Westbrook seems like the player that could carry a below average team to the playoffs.


How am I overrating Gallo? When he's healthy he is one of the best second or third scoring options to have on a team that has a superstar.It's no coincidence that he is having his best offensive season in a season where he has played in almost every game.

Talking to yourself? :lol: :lol:
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1387 » by Galloisdaman » Fri Feb 1, 2013 3:51 am

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Galloisdaman wrote:If Gallo is just a role player you should have absoutely no problem naming 5 small forwards in the Western conference that are clearly better. When I say clearly I do not mean may be better. I mean without a doubt clearly better. I will start you off. Kevin Durant. That is 1. You only need to name 4 more.

Why limit it just to the western conference? Just because the West is weak at SF doesn't give Gallo any form of props..

He isn't top 10 in the league currently.....

LeBron, KD, Melo, Deng, Paul George, Nic Batum, Gay, Pierce, Evan Turner, Kawhi Leonard are my 10.

And that's not including guys like Granger who is injured, Parsons, MKG and Barnes who are rooks. and sure to pass him over in about 2 seasons.

Gallo is a good player, nothing special, definitely not worthy to be called top of anything.


If Gallo is just a role player it should not be hard at all to name 5 SF who also play in the Western conference that are without a doubt better than he is. The list you just gave has so many questionable names that I'm not even going to waste my time with it never mind that 7 of them do not even play in the Western conference which Gallo plays in.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1388 » by knicks94 » Fri Feb 1, 2013 3:51 am

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knicks94 wrote:
knicks94 wrote:I would trade Westbrook for any player on the Knicks that isn't named Carmelo Anthony. I don't know why anyone would compare Raymond Felton to him. They both might take a lot of shots but Westbrook seems like the player that could carry a below average team to the playoffs.


How am I overrating Gallo? When he's healthy he is one of the best second or third scoring options to have on a team that has a superstar.It's no coincidence that he is having his best offensive season in a season where he has played in almost every game.

Talking to yourself? :lol: :lol:


I edited it! Slow and crappy internet service is influencing me to rush my posting.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1389 » by knicks94 » Fri Feb 1, 2013 4:05 am

What a boring, dull and one-sided game between the Thunder and Grizzlies. As good as the Grizzlies and Thunder have been in recent years they're two small market teams that many people prefer not to watch face eachother. I don't know why TNT puts these types of games on their TV schedule. And the best that they can do for their late night game is show the Warriors vs a bad Dallas Mavericks team? They must think that people are still dying to see a rematch of the 2007 playoffs.I remember when TNT used to have great double headers. Those days are long gone.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1390 » by Thugger HBC » Fri Feb 1, 2013 4:06 am

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Thugger HBC wrote:
Galloisdaman wrote:If Gallo is just a role player you should have absoutely no problem naming 5 small forwards in the Western conference that are clearly better. When I say clearly I do not mean may be better. I mean without a doubt clearly better. I will start you off. Kevin Durant. That is 1. You only need to name 4 more.

Why limit it just to the western conference? Just because the West is weak at SF doesn't give Gallo any form of props..

He isn't top 10 in the league currently.....

LeBron, KD, Melo, Deng, Paul George, Nic Batum, Gay, Pierce, Evan Turner, Kawhi Leonard are my 10.

And that's not including guys like Granger who is injured, Parsons, MKG and Barnes who are rooks. and sure to pass him over in about 2 seasons.

Gallo is a good player, nothing special, definitely not worthy to be called top of anything.


If Gallo is just a role player it should not be hard at all to name 5 SF who also play in the Western conference that are without a doubt better than he is. The list you just gave has so many questionable names that I'm not even going to waste my time with it never mind that 7 of them do not even play in the Western conference which Gallo plays in.

Why are you so obsessed with the Western Conference? Its basically KD and no one else close.

But if it makes you feel good.....Gallo is a top 5 Western Conference SF.

That sounds so (Please Use More Appropriate Word).

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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1391 » by Tron Carter » Fri Feb 1, 2013 4:14 am

Thugger HBC wrote:Why are you so obsessed with the Western Conference? Its basically KD and no one else close.

But if it makes you feel good.....Gallo is a top 5 Western Conference SF.

That sounds so (Please Use More Appropriate Word).

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It's because that's the only way Gallo is Top 5 anything. He damn sure isn't a top 5 SF in the league.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1392 » by knicks94 » Fri Feb 1, 2013 4:20 am

Even though Gallo being a top 5 SF is debatable there is no denying that David Lee is a top 3 PF in the NBA.
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Post#1393 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Fri Feb 1, 2013 4:25 am

knicks94 wrote:Even though Gallo being a top 5 SF is debatable there is no denying that David Lee is a top 3 PF in the NBA.


You could certainly argue against that proposition but he is awesome.
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Post#1394 » by knicks94 » Fri Feb 1, 2013 4:31 am

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knicks94 wrote:Even though Gallo being a top 5 SF is debatable there is no denying that David Lee is a top 3 PF in the NBA.


You could certainly argue against that proposition but he is awesome.


It's a shame that the Knicks gave him away for practically nothing since they were desperate to acquire Lebron James. Would have been interesting to see him play on a good Knicks team.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1395 » by blueNorange » Fri Feb 1, 2013 4:53 am

Thugger HBC wrote:LeBron, KD, Melo, Deng, Paul George, ]Nic Batum, Gay, Pierce, Evan Turner, Kawhi Leonard are my 10

the ones bolded aren't better than gallinari
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1396 » by boomann21 » Fri Feb 1, 2013 4:56 am

Do people still attribute David Lee numbers to being in the Mike D'antoni system? That was a ridiculous claim that lasted for a few years. David Lee is a Star.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1397 » by Quick Kick » Fri Feb 1, 2013 5:01 am

knicks94 wrote:
Knicks_Fan2 wrote:
knicks94 wrote:Even though Gallo being a top 5 SF is debatable there is no denying that David Lee is a top 3 PF in the NBA.


You could certainly argue against that proposition but he is awesome.


It's a shame that the Knicks gave him away for practically nothing since they were desperate to acquire Lebron James. Would have been interesting to see him play on a good Knicks team.


for nothing? We got Amare at the time who was awesome (and still shows flashes), which led to us getting Melo and then Tyson.

people have selective memories when it comes to past Knick players like Lee. When he was here, we lauded him for his rebounding and hustle, but the majority of this board couldn't bear the thought of us paying him 12 mill per season, because his defense was horrendous and he wasn't a game changer at all back then. Even when he got to Golden State, he was putting up good numbers but they were ultimately hollow since they never translated into wins, and when you're making $80 million, that's an expectation you have to accept as a player. It wasnt until they got a coach who stressed defense and drafted a monstrous back-court that Lee's skills were put to good use.

NOW he's a truly great player.....but up until this year, let's not pretend we were all lamenting his loss, because that's just revisionist history.
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Post#1398 » by knicks94 » Fri Feb 1, 2013 5:28 am

for nothing? We got Amare at the time who was awesome (and still shows flashes), which led to us getting Melo and then Tyson.

people have selective memories when it comes to past Knick players like Lee. When he was here, we lauded him for his rebounding and hustle, but the majority of this board couldn't bear the thought of us paying him 12 mill per season, because his defense was horrendous and he wasn't a game changer at all back then. Even when he got to Golden State, he was putting up good numbers but they were ultimately hollow since they never translated into wins, and when you're making $80 million, that's an expectation you have to accept as a player. It wasnt until they got a coach who stressed defense and drafted a monstrous back-court that Lee's skills were put to good use.

NOW he's a truly great player.....but up until this year, let's not pretend we were all lamenting his loss, because that's just revisionist history.


I was talking about what the Knicks got in return for him when they traded him to Golden-State. There were many Knicks fans that wanted David Lee to remain a Knick. The majority of them believed that if Lee was surrounded with better players a 12 million dollar contract for him would not have been a terrible thing for the Knicks. Remember that David Lee throughout the majority of his career played for coaches that didn't stress defense and with a great number of players that are either no longer in the NBA or being used as bench warmers right now. It is not Lee's fault that he never had the right coach or the right cast of players to surround him.
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Post#1399 » by Capn'O » Fri Feb 1, 2013 5:44 am

boomann21 wrote:Do people still attribute David Lee numbers to being in the Mike D'antoni system? That was a ridiculous claim that lasted for a few years. David Lee is a Star.


I'm watching that game right now. Lee is just so skilled and has some of the best hands of any big man. He and Bogut may make the best passing big man tandem in the league.

I'll take the power of our bigs over them though. Amar'e is so dangerous inside. But these guys could do some damage in the playoffs.
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Re: Around the NBA part 3 

Post#1400 » by ibraheim718 » Fri Feb 1, 2013 5:47 am

Capn'O wrote:
boomann21 wrote:Do people still attribute David Lee numbers to being in the Mike D'antoni system? That was a ridiculous claim that lasted for a few years. David Lee is a Star.


I'm watching that game right now. Lee is just so skilled and has some of the best hands of any big man. He and Bogut may make the best passing big man tandem in the league.

I'll take the power of our bigs over them though. Amar'e is so dangerous inside. But these guys could do some damage in the playoffs.


He's one of the only players in the NBA I've ever seen that has gotten better since he was a rookie.

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