Re: Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 3)

[Shemy]

7 outta 8 times first round, im starting to see a pattern

Yeah, he sucks. Trade him.[/quote]
glad I convinced you

[CoolKids]

I think you're painting with a rather broad brush. There is one or two morons and to be honest, I think they are trolling. Probably not even real fans of Lin's, but here to cause trouble and too many suckers bite.

True most know that. Im just saying there are a few who dont so "everyone" doest apply"

[BrOnXKing1]

The one thing I dont understand is all those years we had 100+ million payroll (when Houston, Shandon Anderson, Easley, Weatherspoon etc) and only winning 30 games nobody said anything about Dolan is having problems paying this high of a payroll

But NOW all the sudden the luxury tax is a big deal? IF we match LIn, lets say our payroll is 90 million for that one year 14-15 and we pay another 40 million in luxury tax which brings it to 130 million. But at the same time we would have a contender with all the money opportunities with Lin. I dont see how this is any diff than paying 100+ million all those years for losing teams, and nobody ever said anything back than about Dolan caring about payroll.

In the new CBA, I believe they have to pay 1.5X the over on the cap...Isiah's Knicks didn't have to worry about that. They just paid dollar for dollar whatever they were over.

What Im saying is we had years where our payroll was 100+ million outright. Even in LIn's third year, it wont be more than 90 million outright. Than we would have to pay about 45 million in luxury tax bringing it to 135 million. But having a winning product, possible contender, and marketing Lin would easily offset that.

Main point is Dolan was easily paying over 100 million dollars for crappy Layden and than Isiah teams and nobody ever said a word about payroll.

[GONYK]

So guys where is Amare while all this hoopla is happening?

Chilling out with the Givenchy crew, studying for finals in Miami, who knows.

Why does Amare have to be anywhere? This is entirely a management thing. If Melo and JR were follwing the Amare route, we wouldn't have people lifting up their skirts for the last 2 days

[boomann21]

So guys where is Amare while all this hoopla is happening?

Taking his wifey to a fashion show wearing a scarf in the winter and top hat with a mean brim.

[Thugger HBC]

So guys where is Amare while all this hoopla is happening?

Probably somewhere between Memphis and LA wearing sandals and tube socks doing a fashion show.

[CoolKids]

make me

...well, i tried.

and failed.

[ITGM]

So guys where is Amare while all this hoopla is happening?

He is in Israel getting his whoppie on.

I would totally smash Sarah Silverman.

[Jay10]

So guys where is Amare while all this hoopla is happening?

Doing the smart thing which is getting as far away from new york until camp starts. maybe after this summer the only players will do the same and get as far away from the new york media as possible.

[sinjz]

Guys...how many more millions of dollars do you think the Knicks will make off Lin, than if he wasn't a Knick?

Can the Knicks really make up that 40 million tax with Lin's marketability?

I've asked this question three times, and have yet to get an answer. Perhaps no one on the board knows, but if we don't match, wouldn't that be a clear indication his value off the court for this franchise could not go any higher? Lin only dramatically improved the value of the franchise when he was playing like a franchise player with game winners and exciting finishes. If he regresses, does he become Yi Jianlin?

Just having him on the team and being Asian is not enough to ensure he makes the Knicks money, right? He has to be as good as he's been to justify this contract, right?

what crazy about it is the fanbase attracted to Lin is benefiting the entire league, not just the Knicks.

the entire league shares the merchandising revenues, and the Knicks will still continue to sellout with or without him.

I do think the stock spike was real though.

You're missing the most important part;, selling broadcasting rights to Knicks games to fans abroad.

[GetItDone]

You know what I'm thinking? The only one really reporting that we are definetely not matching is SAS. We KNOW that he HATES lin with a passion. Would it surprise anyone if he is completely making it up that the Knicks won't match in an attempt to be an instigator and make problems? I think he saw some momentum heading that way, and decided it was his time to report some garbage to try to shake things up.

SAS trying to cause a stir with his articles.

No way..

[GONYK]

The longer this drags out the more I believe we'll match. The Knicks know that Lin is a fan favorite and that there will be a backlash if they don't match, so the more this drags out the more the fans mobilize and the more anger builds and bigger PR nightmare it becomes. If they have no plans to match it would be in their best interest to make it quick and move on as fast as possible to promote the players that they've already acquired like "Hey! Look over here! It's Kurt Thomas! Remember him! Yeah...good times."

It doesn't serve the Knicks to do anything quickly, whether it is to match, or not match.

[rocarlos24]

Lin has had it EASY in New York. Won nothing and has been treated like Jeter in terms of local media.

If we match that "ridiculous" contract, I want him to feel the heat. He should have as much pressure as Melo, Amar'e and Tyson, as well as Woodson for the Knicks to succeed, and AT LEAST make it to the ECF.

gud post ninja!!!!!

[GoNYK1288]

I need to figure out a way to stay off this **** message board for the next two days or else it's going to completely destroy my productivity.

[Synciere]

Guys...how many more millions of dollars do you think the Knicks will make off Lin, than if he wasn't a Knick?

Can the Knicks really make up that 40 million tax with Lin's marketability?

I've asked this question three times, and have yet to get an answer. Perhaps no one on the board knows, but if we don't match, wouldn't that be a clear indication his value off the court for this franchise could not go any higher? Lin only dramatically improved the value of the franchise when he was playing like a franchise player with game winners and exciting finishes. If he regresses, does he become Yi Jianlin?

Just having him on the team and being Asian is not enough to ensure he makes the Knicks money, right? He has to be as good as he's been to justify this contract, right?

Nah... still played pretty well when everybody was healthy.

If everyone was healthy throughout the year, there would have been no Linsanity. His level dropped off, and he would never have been given those game winning opportunities with Melo, and rightfully so. Linsanity was a result of Amare/Melo injuries, Lin's skills, and the league not having any information on him. What the league adjusted, we saw Lin level off. I keep asking, what are the chances we see the game-winning 18/7 Lin next year? I think it's pretty minimal, and wouldn't be worth that last year's tax hit.

[goshjosh]

So guys where is Amare while all this hoopla is happening?

Where he needs to be. Out of sight and working. No more bait for the STAT haters.

He's getting titanium coating in his hands so that he can punch the glass whenever he wants.

[barborous]

make me

...well, i tried.

and failed.

christ, you're immature. weren't you complaining just a few pages back about how dumb this thread was getting? and now you're a big part of it. does that not bother you at all?

[Jan_Sobieski]

So guys where is Amare while all this hoopla is happening?

He is in Israel getting his whoppie on.

I would totally smash Sarah Silverman.

She is smashable but a very overrated Ho. Bill Burr deserves more credit then that witch.

[Pharmcat]

time to go here guys thanks

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[clipse375]

7 outta 8 times first round, im starting to see a pattern

Yeah, he sucks. Trade him.

glad I convinced you[/quote]

So you want to trade away a guy that we traded our whole entire team for. Nice. And you want to trade him for?