Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion

[Knick4Real]

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nets are in for a rude awakening when KD is pissed off and they continue to lose there leverage...

If I am the league, I am colluding with BKN to make sure they don't deal Durant because this creates a total nightmare for the league management as a whole. If a players contract is only contract FOR THE PLAYER and is more of a guideline for the teams, player movement will become even more out of control.

Yes I know I just agreed to my supermax, but I really just wanted to secure my paycheck and I am demanding to go to the Lakers, you can have all their draft pick (singular) remaining, and an amalgamation of the overpaid role players they have amassed for the past 3 years on MLE deals.
Byeeeeeee

I just posted about this on the general board. Contracts are a waste of time if players continue to simply ignore the terms they signed and demand trades whenever they want. If owners could decide in year 2 of a 4-year contract that they no longer desired to pay a player their agreed $40 million salary, there'd be a riot. Except, players are doing the same contract-busting move in reverse.

(I DEMAND a trade AND I demand it be to one of these 2 teams. Oh, and you can't ask for Player A, B, or C in the trade because I want them to be on my new team so I can go play with them)

Why bother signing contracts if players can simply void them whenever they want??

[8516knicks]

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nets are in for a rude awakening when KD is pissed off and they continue to lose there leverage...

He's signed for 4 years. If he tries to screw them, t

hey can f*ck him also.

KD really has Joe T. worried!

# 296 Joseph Tsai $7.09B
Random fact: Wife Clara has master's degrees from Harvard and Stanford.
Overview

Tsai is a co-founder of Alibaba Group, China's biggest e-commerce company. The Hangzhou-based business operates Taobao, an online shopping site, and Tmall, a platform that lets companies open online stores. It had revenue of 717 billion yuan ($106 billion) and 1.13 billion global annual active customers in the year to March 31, 2021.

[HEZI]

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nets are in for a rude awakening when KD is pissed off and they continue to lose there leverage...

If I am the league, I am colluding with BKN to make sure they don't deal Durant because this creates a total nightmare for the league management as a whole. If a players contract is only contract FOR THE PLAYER and is more of a guideline for the teams, player movement will become even more out of control.

Yes I know I just agreed to my supermax, but I really just wanted to secure my paycheck and I am demanding to go to the Lakers, you can have all their draft pick (singular) remaining, and an amalgamation of the overpaid role players they have amassed for the past 3 years on MLE deals.
Byeeeeeee

I just posted about this on the general board. Contracts are a waste of time if players continue to simply ignore the terms they signed and demand trades whenever they want. If owners could decide in year 2 of a 4-year contract that they no longer desired to pay a player their agreed $40 million salary, there'd be a riot. Except, players are doing the same contract-busting move in reverse.

(I DEMAND a trade AND I demand it be to one of these 2 teams. Oh, and you can't ask for Player A, B, or C in the trade because I want them to be on my new team so I can go play with them)

Why bother signing contracts if players can simply void them whenever they want??

It’s not like they are restructuring their salary so it’s not the same. Players taking control of their destination and demanding a trade is no different then when GMs decide to trade a player whenever they want. Nobody says GMs don’t fulfill their end of the contract when the player is moved whenever front office feels like moving them so players demanding trades is fine

[Knick4Real]

If I am the league, I am colluding with BKN to make sure they don't deal Durant because this creates a total nightmare for the league management as a whole. If a players contract is only contract FOR THE PLAYER and is more of a guideline for the teams, player movement will become even more out of control.

I just posted about this on the general board. Contracts are a waste of time if players continue to simply ignore the terms they signed and demand trades whenever they want. If owners could decide in year 2 of a 4-year contract that they no longer desired to pay a player their agreed $40 million salary, there'd be a riot. Except, players are doing the same contract-busting move in reverse.

(I DEMAND a trade AND I demand it be to one of these 2 teams. Oh, and you can't ask for Player A, B, or C in the trade because I want them to be on my new team so I can go play with them)

Why bother signing contracts if players can simply void them whenever they want??

It’s not like they are restructuring their salary so it’s not the same. Players taking control of their destination and demanding a trade is no different then when GMs decide to trade a player whenever they want. Nobody says GMs don’t fulfill their end of the contract when the player is moved whenever front office feels like moving them so players demanding trades is fine

That's not the same thing and not how contracts work.

Players have complete control over their destination... as a free agent. They can choose to go play wherever they want while they're not under contract. The problem or "scheme" is when a player accepts a SuperMax payout from the team that drafted them (knowing good and well they have no desire to play there), then demand a trade a year later and take themselves and their max money where they really wanted to go all along. In essence, they sign the contract under false pretense.

The loophole is the fault of the league. They need to completely restructure things within the next CBA so that players don't have to "pretend" they are staying with a team just to get max money -- then force a trade later to where they would have gone in the first place if they could have also gotten the big payday.

Players can also take some responsibility and not throw a tantrum and threaten to become a locker room "cancer" unless they get their way and get traded where they want. Otherwise (again), contracts are not worth the paper they're written on.

[stuporman]

I think I just saw a listing on Alibaba for KD....

[HEZI]

I just posted about this on the general board. Contracts are a waste of time if players continue to simply ignore the terms they signed and demand trades whenever they want. If owners could decide in year 2 of a 4-year contract that they no longer desired to pay a player their agreed $40 million salary, there'd be a riot. Except, players are doing the same contract-busting move in reverse.

(I DEMAND a trade AND I demand it be to one of these 2 teams. Oh, and you can't ask for Player A, B, or C in the trade because I want them to be on my new team so I can go play with them)

Why bother signing contracts if players can simply void them whenever they want??

It’s not like they are restructuring their salary so it’s not the same. Players taking control of their destination and demanding a trade is no different then when GMs decide to trade a player whenever they want. Nobody says GMs don’t fulfill their end of the contract when the player is moved whenever front office feels like moving them so players demanding trades is fine

That's not the same thing and not how contracts work.

Players have complete control over their destination... as a free agent. They can choose to go play wherever they want while they're not under contract. The problem or "scheme" is when a player accepts a SuperMax payout from the team that drafted them (knowing good and well they have no desire to play there), then demand a trade a year later and take themselves and their max money where they really wanted to go all along. In essence, they sign the contract under false pretense.

The loophole is the fault of the league. They need to completely restructure things within the next CBA so that players don't have to "pretend" they are staying with a team just to get max money -- then force a trade later to where they would have gone in the first place if they could have also gotten the big payday.

Players can also take some responsibility and not throw a tantrum and threaten to become a locker room "cancer" unless they get their way and get traded where they want. Otherwise (again), contracts are not worth the paper they're written on.

Maybe GMs should be better at choosing who they sign and when. You know what egos you are bringing in before you let them ink their deal so don’t want to hear that excuse. Those GMs sign players to sell tickets they usually don’t care about them and if the right offer comes their way they will send them packing. It works both ways

[moocow007]

I think I just saw a listing on Alibaba for KD....

Joe Tsai is going to use that big brain of his and try to create multiple KD knock-offs and offer them for sale in Bulk...at a discount for each.

[Jeffrey]

It’s not like they are restructuring their salary so it’s not the same. Players taking control of their destination and demanding a trade is no different then when GMs decide to trade a player whenever they want. Nobody says GMs don’t fulfill their end of the contract when the player is moved whenever front office feels like moving them so players demanding trades is fine

That's not the same thing and not how contracts work.

Players have complete control over their destination... as a free agent. They can choose to go play wherever they want while they're not under contract. The problem or "scheme" is when a player accepts a SuperMax payout from the team that drafted them (knowing good and well they have no desire to play there), then demand a trade a year later and take themselves and their max money where they really wanted to go all along. In essence, they sign the contract under false pretense.

The loophole is the fault of the league. They need to completely restructure things within the next CBA so that players don't have to "pretend" they are staying with a team just to get max money -- then force a trade later to where they would have gone in the first place if they could have also gotten the big payday.

Players can also take some responsibility and not throw a tantrum and threaten to become a locker room "cancer" unless they get their way and get traded where they want. Otherwise (again), contracts are not worth the paper they're written on.

Maybe GMs should be better at choosing who they sign and when. You know what egos you are bringing in before you let them ink their deal so don’t want to hear that excuse. Those GMs sign players to sell tickets they usually don’t care about them and if the right offer comes their way they will send them packing. It works both ways

Very difficult to "figuring out who they should sign and when"... the salary cap dictates that you can't just let a star walk for nothing. You very well know GMs can't let a budget line disappear and not have it replace. If that happened, its usually a fireable offense when there's loopholes to figure it out.

I think the best solution is to come to an agreement that if player X signs the 5 year supermax can only paid from the team that drafted the player. If Player X demands and trade, then his salary will be cut to a regular max contract.

[stuporman]

I think I just saw a listing on Alibaba for KD....

Joe Tsai is going to use that big brain of his and try to create multiple KD knock-offs and offer them for sale in Bulk...at a discount for each.

Maybe it said Kevin Durunt....

[duetta]

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nets are in for a rude awakening when KD is pissed off and they continue to lose there leverage...

Where could Minnesota get those draft picks, inasmuch as their picks are already accounted for through the end of the decade (with Utah)! Psychotic ask.

Force Durant to play out his deal or look terrible around the league. What an effing primadonna this guy is.

[8516knicks]

By the way, wasn't KAT tight with DLo and that's why he ended up in MN? What's up with that mini-Kryie/KD bromance? They have a falling out? Edwards now his Huckleberry? I've seen DLo's name in potential trades several times this season.

[Fat Kat]

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[mpharris36]

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once a hornet always a hornet

[3toheadmelo]

tre mann is awesome

[Dave DaButcher]

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Hey Dame, Dolan will talk to you wherever and whenever you want.

[DaGawd]

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Hey Dame, Dolan will talk to you wherever and whenever you want.

I looooove dame…. This ain’t the move tho..

[K_ick_God]

The Nets should try to package Ben with KD. KD and Ben for Gobert, KAT, Edwards and 16 first round picks.

[K_ick_God]

Jody Allen looks quite a bit like Paul.

[Monk1718]

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im dead