Build a Team 17.0 Rules and Discussion Thread

[bringbackhoffa]

He missed first quarter not for Injury Reasons. Plus like I said Earlier. Before the draft was even over Jrue Came Back He came back less than a week after picked.. If Jrue was more a month away I would have not bid on him.

Maybe Jrue was the wrong example. If Eddy Curry broke his hand earlier in the year and came back last week, the judges wouldn't hold him accountable for missing time. However, if Curry was returning in another month, why would the judges hold all the time he's missed pre-draft against him. I don't have any weight in the game, just more curious that anything.

We assume Middleton will be the same as last year. We don't know for sure. Its why I said the best thing would have been if he came back in a few days. I don't think the number of games missed should kill the team...but when you draft him, you hope he is as good as last year. Thats my main point. How do you accurately judge him if you have no current stats from this year yet. Holiday was logging games and showing you what he is doing currently so its easier to judge.

I think he must have solid depth at that position.

[pelifan]

Yo New Era you should let me pick first. I got 1 guy and 1 guy only.

[mpharris36]

Yo New Era you should let me pick first. I got 1 guy and 1 guy only.

[LJ4pointplay]

Are we acting like the season starts after the draft? Because if so, Middleton missing at most another month isn't much of a big deal, IMO.

This is the 2016-17 season. Middleton was hurt when he was drafted so anyone who took him knew that they were only going to get about 20-25 games max from him. I didn't speak to LJ about him but I think that he's played the game long enough to realize that he wasn't going to miss Middleton for only a few weeks.

...but that's how it's always been done, including the last one?

[bringbackhoffa]

sources indicate 68 is on the move

[pelifan]

Yo New Era you should let me pick first. I got 1 guy and 1 guy only.

Your big man duo isn't even the best in the conference.

[El Poochio]

sources indicate 68 is on the move

You are desperate for the spelling master

[LJ4pointplay]

So judges are assuming all missed games/minutes restrictions, even player development that occurred prior to judging will all happen? For example, Joel Embiid will be judged based off the restrictions he had over the first several months of the season? Is derozan going to considered to be an MVP level player for the first month since that's how he played? If so, I love it. Just never thought we did it like that.

[pelifan]

sources indicate 68 is on the move

Hoffa gtfo.

[IllmaticHandler]

Maybe Jrue was the wrong example. If Eddy Curry broke his hand earlier in the year and came back last week, the judges wouldn't hold him accountable for missing time. However, if Curry was returning in another month, why would the judges hold all the time he's missed pre-draft against him. I don't have any weight in the game, just more curious that anything.

We assume Middleton will be the same as last year. We don't know for sure. Its why I said the best thing would have been if he came back in a few days. I don't think the number of games missed should kill the team...but when you draft him, you hope he is as good as last year. Thats my main point. How do you accurately judge him if you have no current stats from this year yet. Holiday was logging games and showing you what he is doing currently so its easier to judge.

I think he must have solid depth at that position.

Its still tough. To many variables. Supposed Middleton lost a step on defense and is not as good. You can't argue Middleton is an excellent defender unless he proves he still is. Its why I said is a good pick, but very risky when you get to the nuts and bolts.

[bringbackhoffa]

sources indicate 68 is on the move

You are desperate for the spelling master

its a coin flip btw him and a scorer

[LJ4pointplay]

Also how are Blake griffin and chris Paul being judged?

[Mecca]

Re: khris, in my view you can't hold his games missed already against him. Only the games that he will miss after the judging begins should be held against him. Of course judges have every right to assume he won't be his same self, but it's an injury that he should be able to recover fine from. Especially at his age.

I concur.

[bishnykfan]

So judges are assuming all missed games/minutes restrictions, even player development that occurred prior to judging will all happen? For example, Joel Embiid will be judged based off the restrictions he had over the first several months of the season? Is derozan going to considered to be an MVP level player for the first month since that's how he played? If so, I love it. Just never thought we did it like that.

When it comes to judging, I've always given the judges a lot of latitude when it comes to how they see players fitting together, player progression etc. Injuries are always tricky. I don't know if we've ever had a set policy because no injury or player is the same. Like I said before, I've always been under the impression that we were drafting to start the 2016-17 season and that anyone injured coming into that season would be injured in BaT. Anyone who got injured after we drafted would not be "punished" for that injury. Middleton is a different case because he was injured coming into the season and hasn't played a minute yet. He has not shown whether or not he will return and at what level if he does. Again, my assumption would have been that he would not be judged well for a regular season but if the news continues to trend in the right direction he would help in the postseason.

But, that was always just my assumption of how things worked. 30 GMs probably all have different ideas on how things work though. So, like I said, if people think there should be a different way of looking at things, I'm open to instructing the judges whatever the majority wants.

[mpharris36]

Yo New Era you should let me pick first. I got 1 guy and 1 guy only.

Your big man duo isn't even the best in the conference.

you keep believing that.

I take KP anyday and twice on sunday over Blake. And I'm sure Hassan is going to love guarding Jokic on the perimeter.

[bringbackhoffa]

SG or C who should i pick..hmmm

[NewEra]

Lopez was the furthest person from my mind when thinking who JustCame would Pair with Love and IT.

I thought he"d select Ariza tbh or eddy Curry

[IllmaticHandler]

Pelifan. MP36. Smash. Mecca. Mags. Same Conference?....get the popcorn ready. The shots will be flying heavy. lol

[Deeeez Knicks]

He missed first quarter not for Injury Reasons. Plus like I said Earlier. Before the draft was even over Jrue Came Back He came back less than a week after picked.. If Jrue was more a month away I would have not bid on him.

Maybe Jrue was the wrong example. If Eddy Curry broke his hand earlier in the year and came back last week, the judges wouldn't hold him accountable for missing time. However, if Curry was returning in another month, why would the judges hold all the time he's missed pre-draft against him. I don't have any weight in the game, just more curious that anything.

We assume Middleton will be the same as last year. We don't know for sure. Its why I said the best thing would have been if he came back in a few days. I don't think the number of games missed should kill the team...but when you draft him, you hope he is as good as last year. Thats my main point. How do you accurately judge him if you have no current stats from this year yet. Holiday was logging games and showing you what he is doing currently so its easier to judge.

Yeah, that would be the question on Middleton. Its a lot of time missed so nobody knows how he will look when he comes or when he will be back. Sounds like he will be on a minutes restriction as well.

I don't think you can pencil him as 2015/16 Middelton and have to consider there is risk. I mean I have had players on my BAT team that were perfectly healthy, but had past injuries and they were factored heavily against me so there should def be a big factor against Middleton who hasn't played yet and has no real time table.

[bringbackhoffa]

ill make my pick once Bish makes it official