Build a Franchise Season 4- Draft starts Saturday (Detroit is on the clock until 8AM) Announcement- page 81

[bringbackhoffa]

Yea, guys in here bitching about Hoffa’s antics...but it was that extension rule that will have much more of a crippling effect on the game.

I was the only one who opposed it vocally though

i was kind of against it as well but have now used it to my benefit...i thought the extensions should of started at $500

[HEZI]

[mpharris36]

Yea, guys in here bitching about Hoffa’s antics...but it was that extension rule that will have much more of a crippling effect on the game.

To be fair it was the only way to catch up to the SIM.

The perfect example is Luka Doncic. He might have had the best start to his career of any drafted player in the history of the game. He was a 16-6-5 guy in the SIM last year. When he was nearly a 30-10-10 guy in the real life. That is 2 years of his his rookie 4 years contract. So without the extension you would only get 2 years of a rookie value because the SIM lags a year at least mostly 2 years behind actually real life production especially for rookies.

2 years of actual SIM production for arguably the cream of the crop prospect we have seen probably ever. So that would give 5 total years of control to the drafting team. Which I find reasonable considering the first 2 years are throwaways for even the best of the best.

[3toheadmelo]

Bagley is a dope prospect. He’s just been hurt and judged unfairly cause he was picked ahead of Luka.

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[2010]

Yea, guys in here bitching about Hoffa’s antics...but it was that extension rule that will have much more of a crippling effect on the game.

You had a chance to vote and admitted you dgaf. So don't cry now.

And yes, I'm "guys" so I'm replying to you.

[NewEra]

I have a problem with the extensions, until I acquire one of those players, then I won’t. Lol

[Smash3]

Yea, guys in here bitching about Hoffa’s antics...but it was that extension rule that will have much more of a crippling effect on the game.

I was the only one who opposed it vocally though

I’ll be honest...I wasn’t paying much attention to it because it didn’t pertain to me, or so I thought, because I still have yet to make a single draft selection...

But seeing these contracts for Luka/Ja and many others...it’s scary to think what this game is going to be like in a few years. It’s almost not even worth the time...

I haven't made a draft pick yet so it didn't matter to me either, but unless y'all wanted the game to break y'all should have listened to me and used my model. I think only Hoffa agreed

[3toheadmelo]

Nothing wrong about extensions in this game. I actually think it was a great addition. Whoever proposed that rule deserves major props.

[Smash3]

Nothing wrong about extensions in this game. I actually think it was a great addition. Whoever proposed that rule deserves major props.

Nothing wrong with paying Doncic 10% of the cap for a whole decade huh?

[mpharris36]

Nothing wrong about extensions in this game. I actually think it was actually a great addition. Whoever proposed that rule deserves major props.

when you drafting a player even the best of the best you basically are saying you wont see production for at least year 3 because the SIM lags.

People get value out of vet contract later in there contract because the SIM lags. So older guys that have been injured or production seriously decreases they get at least a year or 2 more production then there talent warrants. I don't see the reason to get on a amendment that actually made draft picks worthwhile...otherwise there is no point to drafting a young player since half of there rookie contract is just throwing away that value.

[mpharris36]

Dont mean to call out any player specifically but when the sim considers Gordan Hayward and Luka Doncic as the same player with the same production in year 2! of the SIM...I consider that a major flaw which the extension rules somewhat corrects.

[2010]

I have a problem with the extensions, until I acquire one of those players, then I won’t. Lol

At least you keeping it 100. Teams like Indiana and Cleveland are prepped for their era as powers. But they bit the bullet early. It all evens out.

If one sees the advantage of those extension eligible players and the salary slot it brings in value to your payroll or roster. Then target acquring those players. Which is why Bagley and his $59 was attractive to me.

But the gamble is why would a team trade them in the first place if everything is so peachy? So you look at a gamble on a guy like Bags who has been solid (he has been no bust at all, his #s actually are super consistent at 14/8 his first two seasons IRL and in the SIM). Yet he still has the upside to get to about 20+ / 10+ in pts/rebs. So you gamble on that type if you can acquire it. Cuz that'll be the only extension eligible type that comes available with that type of upside.

But the shortsighted types scoff at dudes like Bags yet try to acquire established studs like Luka, Ayton, SGA, etc. Wtf would the GM trade THEM to you?

[3toheadmelo]

Nothing wrong about extensions in this game. I actually think it was a great addition. Whoever proposed that rule deserves major props.

Nothing wrong with paying Doncic 10% of the cap for a whole decade huh?

Nope. If you hit on a draft pick, you should be rewarded for it.

[Smash3]

Nothing wrong about extensions in this game. I actually think it was actually a great addition. Whoever proposed that rule deserves major props.

when you drafting a player even the best of the best you basically are saying you wont see production for at least year 3 because the SIM lags.

People get value out of vet contract later in there contract because the SIM lags. So older guys that have been injured or production seriously decreases they get at least a year or 2 more production then there talent warrants. I don't see the reason to get on a amendment that actually made draft picks worthwhile...otherwise there is no point to drafting a young player since half of there rookie contract is just throwing away that value.

You see production in year 2:

Luka 16, 6 and 5
Trae 16, 7 and 3

Not far off their rookie season production, the sim lags a year, that's pretty much it

[King of Canada]

Nothing wrong about extensions in this game. I actually think it was a great addition. Whoever proposed that rule deserves major props.

Nothing wrong with paying Doncic 10% of the cap for a whole decade huh?

[3toheadmelo]

Nothing wrong about extensions in this game. I actually think it was actually a great addition. Whoever proposed that rule deserves major props.

when you drafting a player even the best of the best you basically are saying you wont see production for at least year 3 because the SIM lags.

People get value out of vet contract later in there contract because the SIM lags. So older guys that have been injured or production seriously decreases they get at least a year or 2 more production then there talent warrants. I don't see the reason to get on a amendment that actually made draft picks worthwhile...otherwise there is no point to drafting a young player since half of there rookie contract is just throwing away that value.

I wish there was extensions for Bam and Tatum too cause they pretty much apply to this. But I’ll live and bring them back either way.

[NewEra]

Nothing wrong about extensions in this game. I actually think it was a great addition. Whoever proposed that rule deserves major props.

Nothing wrong with paying Doncic 10% of the cap for a whole decade huh?

#1 available?

[Smash3]

I have a problem with the extensions, until I acquire one of those players, then I won’t. Lol

At least you keeping it 100. Teams like Indiana and Cleveland are prepped for their era as powers. But they bit the bullet early. It all evens out.

If one sees the advantage of those extension eligible players and the salary slot it brings in value to your payroll or roster. Then target acquring those players. Which is why Bagley and his $59 was attractive to me.

But the gamble is why would a team trade them in the first place if everything is so peachy? So you look at a gamble on a guy like Bags who has been solid (he has been no bust at all, his #s actually are super consistent at 14/8 his first two seasons IRL and in the SIM). Yet he still has the upside to get to about 20+ / 10+ in pts/rebs. So you gamble on that type if you can acquire it. Cuz that'll be the only extension eligible type that comes available with that type of upside.

But the shortsighted types scoff at dudes like Bags yet try to acquire established studs like Luka, Ayton, SGA, etc. Wtf would the GM trade THEM to you?

So true, everyone is trying to buy high in BAF

[King of Canada]

It’s hard to use Luka as an example for the rule, because it appears he’s generational. Use #1 this season. Take Ball, and the extension for him is $145. Could he good, could be awful?

[Manhattan Project]

$59 and averaged 14/8 at PF in the SIM last season. I'll take it.

But I can expect a lack of patience and rush to judgment from the GM who traded young Lauri for heartbroken Love, and took on salary to do it.

Which has literally nothing to do with what I said, but you been off your game with Hoffa playing his Jedi Mind Tricks on you. Bagley was the first overall selection in the draft and has yet to receive an extension where as the second overall and third overall picks in the same draft already have. [Ayton and Luka]

What's that? You just traded for Bagley this offseason so that has absolutely nothing to do with you? I know... that's the point. You just saw Bagley and felt the need to go ramble ramble ramble. Cmon 2010, you a lot better than this. You're not on a different level, you're not playing chess while the rest of us are playing checkers.