OT: The Official COVID/Omicron Variant+ thread

[Clyde_Style]

anyone getting the booster? i am scheduled for this afternoon.

I’ll be at six months soon, so I guess I can get it this month

[HarthorneWingo]

anyone getting the booster? i am scheduled for this afternoon.

Has it already been 8-9 months since your last shot? I’ll be getting mine when it’s time. February for me.

yeah. i got my first dose in december. it's time.

Good luck and good health. Keep us posted on the post-stab side effects. I had 2-3 days of feeling pretty crappy for the first two. Are you getting the Pfizer?

[stuporman]

Where is this death wish coming from? Abbott and the republican Texas legislature are destroying Texas and I don't know why.

When an ideology is faith based and in the case of evangelic Christians they have an 'end times' mentality that they fit everything into. They are actually seeking and trying to produce thorough their actions an armageddon like scenario because that's what they believe is 'true'.

They not only have a death wish for themselves, they have it for everyone and everything, they want the whole world to die because... god. There's no reasoning with this and no amount of widespread suffering can change it for them because that only supports their belief.

They can do the most horrible things and yet they are 'forgiven' and 'good' because god and if others who don't believe like them do the most selfless things helping in any way they can it doesn't change that they see those others as 'evil' and going to hell....because god.

Talked to a guy here in Florida who was from Jersey City, a musician who was a boxer and ran nightclubs, covered in scars, IOW he ran with a crowd and did and saw some things. But now he’s a holy roller and it doesn’t matter what you do or say, it is what you believe. Believe in Jesus. That’s all it takes. Doesn’t matter if you do evil things as long as you sign off on the Jesus card. This was the same guy who didn’t believe there is any such thing as being an asymptomatic carrier of a virus. To him, you’re sick or you’re not, end of story and if you are not visibly sick you can’t spread it. So fugging stupid. Of course he isn’t getting vaccinated. It’s all in god’s hands.

Maybe I should clarify my words because I know and embrace faith in my own life, with faith someone can find meaning and peace which comes from a sense of well being. Faith transcends all religions.

I could call these other types of people 'zealots' because they are just believing a religious dogma that they want to force everyone else to live according to....even if they don't adhere to it themselves.

[HarthorneWingo]

When an ideology is faith based and in the case of evangelic Christians they have an 'end times' mentality that they fit everything into. They are actually seeking and trying to produce thorough their actions an armageddon like scenario because that's what they believe is 'true'.

They not only have a death wish for themselves, they have it for everyone and everything, they want the whole world to die because... god. There's no reasoning with this and no amount of widespread suffering can change it for them because that only supports their belief.

They can do the most horrible things and yet they are 'forgiven' and 'good' because god and if others who don't believe like them do the most selfless things helping in any way they can it doesn't change that they see those others as 'evil' and going to hell....because god.

Talked to a guy here in Florida who was from Jersey City, a musician who was a boxer and ran nightclubs, covered in scars, IOW he ran with a crowd and did and saw some things. But now he’s a holy roller and it doesn’t matter what you do or say, it is what you believe. Believe in Jesus. That’s all it takes. Doesn’t matter if you do evil things as long as you sign off on the Jesus card. This was the same guy who didn’t believe there is any such thing as being an asymptomatic carrier of a virus. To him, you’re sick or you’re not, end of story and if you are not visibly sick you can’t spread it. So fugging stupid. Of course he isn’t getting vaccinated. It’s all in god’s hands.

Maybe I should clarify my words because I know and embrace faith in my own life, with faith someone can find meaning and peace which comes from a sense of well being. Faith transcends all religions.

I could call these other types of people 'zealots' because they are just believing a religious dogma that they want to force everyone else to live according to....even if they don't adhere to it themselves.

"Faith" in a secular or religious way?

I don't believe in a religious "God" or "Allah" as in someone made in our image who is personally involved in each of our lives and who judges us when we die. And I believe organized religions are cults. But I do love soul, gospel, and spirituals. Weird. Anyhow, some atheists can be more "Christian" that self-described "Christians." I include myself in that group. I once looked into "Deism" which is something I could roll with.

I now believe that we're way too insignificant in this universe as we now understand it. The earth is 4 billion years old. We're like fleas living on a Lion that will shake us all off one day. Maybe sooner than later.

Do you think that his life has any intrinsic meaning?

[HarthorneWingo]

So this is deep, really deep. GOP Lawmaker attends Anti-Vax rally days after Anti-Vax wife dies from COVID. People have lost their fuqqing minds. Maybe this is "God's will, as they say"? Maybe I should start believing in "God".

[stuporman]

Talked to a guy here in Florida who was from Jersey City, a musician who was a boxer and ran nightclubs, covered in scars, IOW he ran with a crowd and did and saw some things. But now he’s a holy roller and it doesn’t matter what you do or say, it is what you believe. Believe in Jesus. That’s all it takes. Doesn’t matter if you do evil things as long as you sign off on the Jesus card. This was the same guy who didn’t believe there is any such thing as being an asymptomatic carrier of a virus. To him, you’re sick or you’re not, end of story and if you are not visibly sick you can’t spread it. So fugging stupid. Of course he isn’t getting vaccinated. It’s all in god’s hands.

Maybe I should clarify my words because I know and embrace faith in my own life, with faith someone can find meaning and peace which comes from a sense of well being. Faith transcends all religions.

I could call these other types of people 'zealots' because they are just believing a religious dogma that they want to force everyone else to live according to....even if they don't adhere to it themselves.

"Faith" in a secular or religious way?

I don't believe in a religious "God" or "Allah" as in someone made in our image who is personally involved in each of our lives and who judges us when we die. But I do love soul, gospel, and spirituals. Weird.

I now believe that we're way too insignificant in this universe as we now understand it. The earth is 4 billion years old. We're like fleas living on a Lion that will shake us all off one day. Maybe sooner than later.

Do you think that his life has any intrinsic meaning?

Well, without getting too far into the deepity of things I'm talking about psychology in a way. There's 'trust' that is the confidence that is placed in ideas, people and our surroundings. Even some animals have trust to the degree that allows them to navigate their environment successfully just as do we.

Then there are 'beliefs', these are the things that the trust is placed in, this is what religions are built around, all the theology that makes them distinct but even apart from religions we all have beliefs. All the things we trust in our psyche, self perceptions, emotions, memories, inner dialog. There are things we believe in outside of our minds, too. Societal norms, the world we live in including science, we believe things are a certain way, we 'believe' them to be true.

Faith though is not really the way we believe, it's a connection to something that gives meaning and fulfillment. Sure, quite often it's derived from religiousness but it isn't limited to that. This connection can be found in anything really whether it's religious or secular, it's something personal we experience.

We can see in how someone behaves whether they have dogmatic beliefs or if they have faith. Faith springs from well being and it doesn't mean someone doesn't ever get angry, afraid or what have you. It just doesn't disturb their well being even if they do get those feelings from time to time and they don't react to every incident of turmoil in life as if it's a catastrophe. Their peace isn't destroyed by it because their connection to what they have their faith in isn't disrupted so well being persists through it all.

Although, people who have dogmatic beliefs, whether religious or secular or whatever they seem to be always in contention and conflict because they are basing their trust in rules and doctrine. It's all about who is or isn't following the rules and who believes what, always judging who is 'in' and who is 'out' of the club according to their beliefs.

So in my opinion we can find meaning in life even if ultimately there may be no 'meaning to life'. Though we may not agree on the exact words of which is which what I'm really talking about are aspects of our conscious experience. The psychological trust we have, the things we believe in and the deep connection are distinct aspects that may overlap in perception, we tend to bundle them altogether in the mind.

Maybe that was a little too deepity but I tried to keep it as succinct as I can.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Has it already been 8-9 months since your last shot? I’ll be getting mine when it’s time. February for me.

yeah. i got my first dose in december. it's time.

Good luck and good health. Keep us posted on the post-stab side effects. I had 2-3 days of feeling pretty crappy for the first two. Are you getting the Pfizer?

all 3 of mine have beem pfizer, and i feel fine. i suppose i've been lucky because i keep hearing accounts of folks not feeling great.

[BKlutch]

yeah. i got my first dose in december. it's time.

Good luck and good health. Keep us posted on the post-stab side effects. I had 2-3 days of feeling pretty crappy for the first two. Are you getting the Pfizer?

all 3 of mine have beem pfizer, and i feel fine. i suppose i've been lucky because i keep hearing accounts of folks not feeling great.

I had Pfizer and minimal reactions. The day my 21 year old son got his second vaccine, he worried he didn't get the real thing because he didn't even feel it. His fever and malaise the next day convinced him, but it was mild and lasted 24 hours. My younger son had minimal or no reactions to the Pfizer. My wife had Moderna and had arm pain and malaise starting about 8 hours after the shot, lasting about 24 hours, each time.

My worst reaction was to another vaccine I had 2 years ago - 101.5 fever and chills for a day.

On the whole, I'd prefer any of the above to gasping for breath and living my last hours on a respirator.

[HarthorneWingo]

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[Jalen Bluntson]

Got my second shot Wednesday. My daughter brought home the Delta virus two weeks ago. She was sick for about 5 days. Not too bad. Lost taste and smell...had a fever. Slight cough. Feels better and bake to work.

My other friend had it too during the same period. Same thing. Couple days under the weather...couple days no taste or smell. Both were always in my house..so me and my old lady were also exposed. Neither of us got sick. We never even tested. Just did 10 days in quarantine. Whatever.

Good luck to everyone... vaccine not not. I'm over all of it.

[HarthorneWingo]

Got my second shot Wednesday. My daughter brought home the Delta virus two weeks ago. She was sick for about 5 days. Not too bad. Lost taste and smell...had a fever. Slight cough. Feels better and bake to work.

My other friend had it too during the same period. Same thing. Couple days under the weather...couple days no taste or smell. Both were always in my house..so me and my old lady were also exposed. Neither of us got sick. We never even tested. Just did 10 days in quarantine. Whatever.

Good luck to everyone... vaccine not not. I'm over all of it.

Oh, YOU'RE over it, eh? I didn't know it was as simple as that. Can it be over for us too? Did you ask Mr. COVID if it was over too? I hate to break it to you but the only way this can be "over" is for everybody to get vaccinated.

That said, glad to see that your vaxxed and safe.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Good luck and good health. Keep us posted on the post-stab side effects. I had 2-3 days of feeling pretty crappy for the first two. Are you getting the Pfizer?

all 3 of mine have beem pfizer, and i feel fine. i suppose i've been lucky because i keep hearing accounts of folks not feeling great.

I had Pfizer and minimal reactions. The day my 21 year old son got his second vaccine, he worried he didn't get the real thing because he didn't even feel it. His fever and malaise the next day convinced him, but it was mild and lasted 24 hours. My younger son had minimal or no reactions to the Pfizer. My wife had Moderna and had arm pain and malaise starting about 8 hours after the shot, lasting about 24 hours, each time.

My worst reaction was to another vaccine I had 2 years ago - 101.5 fever and chills for a day.

On the whole, I'd prefer any of the above to gasping for breath and living my last hours on a respirator.

yes lawd.

and i'd say i'm feeling a little fatigue and soreness about the lymph node. but nothing alarming. normal day otherwise.

[Synciere]

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While I respect their sentiment, I’m not in favor of medical facilities deciding on spec they won’t help someone based on their political or social views.

[NYKat]

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I can’t even express in words how much I despise that b!tch

[Synciere]

Any Knicks players not vaccinated? They won’t be able to play home games until they get the jab right?

[Capn'O]

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While I respect their sentiment, I’m not in favor of medical facilities deciding on spec they won’t help someone based on their political or social views.

Agreed. Her not getting prompt and accurate results from said test could have cascading impacts on other persons that come into contact with her. Kind of cutting off the nose to spite the face. Also, how the hell are those the only two testing options in any community this far into the pandemic?

[Capn'O]

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Yup. All fun and games until you get a serious case of Covid.

I can't for the life of me understand how people can on the one hand dismiss the entire body of research related to Covid and on the other just randomly accept some theory that an unrelated drug or substance is just what the doctor ordered. Let alone one that is only approved for livestock. Combined stupidity and arrogance is a dangerous cocktail.

[stuporman]

The conspiratorial mind doesn't have to be logical in it's reasoning and can justify anything as long as it supports their already held belief/opinion.

[BKlutch]

all 3 of mine have beem pfizer, and i feel fine. i suppose i've been lucky because i keep hearing accounts of folks not feeling great.

I had Pfizer and minimal reactions. The day my 21 year old son got his second vaccine, he worried he didn't get the real thing because he didn't even feel it. His fever and malaise the next day convinced him, but it was mild and lasted 24 hours. My younger son had minimal or no reactions to the Pfizer. My wife had Moderna and had arm pain and malaise starting about 8 hours after the shot, lasting about 24 hours, each time.

My worst reaction was to another vaccine I had 2 years ago - 101.5 fever and chills for a day.

On the whole, I'd prefer any of the above to gasping for breath and living my last hours on a respirator.

yes lawd.

and i'd say i'm feeling a little fatigue and soreness about the lymph node. but nothing alarming. normal day otherwise.

I know there are some people who like to complain about the amount of side effects you're experiencing, but I lost a long time friend and another was sick for many months of lasting problems from Covid. So I just decided not to be a baby when I got mine, and I always appreciate others who keep their perspective on this, too.

Is it possible that some of those who scream the loudest about not wanting the vaccine are just afraid afraid of needles and just being big babies? Misery loves company, so they try to get others to refuse, too, and put many others at risk.

Most people don't know it, but in the past, if a person were bitten by a dog — and that dog was potentially rabid — they had to receive a series of injections that were so painful that they had to be injected in the the big muscle in your belly (the rectus abdomens) — because injecting into smaller muscles could destroy those muscles. People were in agony from the rabies vaccine, but it was a choice of either accepting that torture or certain death in a horribly way within days. There is nothing about the Covid vaccines that is anywhere nearly as bad as that.

Congrats on doing the right thing.

[BKlutch]

The conspiratorial mind doesn't have to be logical in it's reasoning and can justify anything as long as it supports their already held belief/opinion.

That's probably the correct explanation. If they can't accept reality, they change what they believe is reality to fit their illogical conclusions.

So if I don't want to believe falling off a cliff would kill me, I just just step right off the edge of the Grand Canyon and enjoy the ride down.

Or not.