2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go

[robillionaire]

Okoro was really trash in these Kentucky games. If you ask me I'd say Maxey was easily the more impressive player overall. Okroro was straight up buns offensively. Great defender but oh my he has long ways to go offensively. I think he's a terrible fit on our roster quite honestly

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Everyone's had bad games if you cherry pick them out. I like Maxey too but he had games where he went 0-9, 1-8, 1-11 if you focus on the negative any of these guys can look bad

[robillionaire]

I wonder what the plan is if Okoro gets taken before 8? Does that kick in operation “trade down”?

I would say they take haliburton hayes or toppin. one of those 4 is going to be there 100%

[FreeSpiritNY]

Okoro was really trash in these Kentucky games. If you ask me I'd say Maxey was easily the more impressive player overall. Okroro was straight up buns offensively. Great defender but oh my he has long ways to go offensively. I think he's a terrible fit on our roster quite honestly

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Everyone's had bad games if you cherry pick them out. I like Maxey too but he had games where he went 0-9, 1-8, 1-11 if you focus on the negative any of these guys can look bad

OKORO is a DO NOT WANT.

Look how good franks offensive game is coming along and how much he contributes to our teams wins.

Look if your offense is a negative then you are not made for this team. simple.

[HEZI]

Okoro was really trash in these Kentucky games. If you ask me I'd say Maxey was easily the more impressive player overall. Okroro was straight up buns offensively. Great defender but oh my he has long ways to go offensively. I think he's a terrible fit on our roster quite honestly

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Everyone's had bad games if you cherry pick them out. I like Maxey too but he had games where he went 0-9, 1-8, 1-11 if you focus on the negative any of these guys can look bad

Yeah that's not the point. It's not cherry picking because there's plenty of bad games from Okoro that extended beyond those two games versus Kentucky. I like Okoro as a long term project, I see his potential as a defensive wing with some solid ball moving and "glue guy" attributes and slashing but where he fits on our roster is a problem. He admitted himself he sees himself as a 3 in the NBA, that means RJ gotta play guard but RJ is more of a 3. Okoro likes to defer a lot and hesitates to shoot even wide open shots a lot. Some Frank type of qualities in that regard. He scored 20 points like 1 time all season, again very Frank like. Meh, the fit flat out sucks with him added to the roster. You gotta hope he becomes a much better shooter sooner rather than later.

[HarthorneWingo]

Okoro was really trash in these Kentucky games. If you ask me I'd say Maxey was easily the more impressive player overall. Okroro was straight up buns offensively. Great defender but oh my he has long ways to go offensively. I think he's a terrible fit on our roster quite honestly

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Everyone's had bad games if you cherry pick them out. I like Maxey too but he had games where he went 0-9, 1-8, 1-11 if you focus on the negative any of these guys can look bad

Yeah that's not the point. It's not cherry picking because there's plenty of bad games from Okoro that extended beyond those two games versus Kentucky. I like Okoro as a long term project, I see his potential as a defensive wing with some solid ball moving and "glue guy" attributes and slashing but where he fits on our roster is a problem. He admitted himself he sees himself as a 3 in the NBA, that means RJ gotta play guard but RJ is more of a 3. Okoro likes to defer a lot and hesitates to shoot even wide open shots a lot. Some Frank type of qualities in that regard. He scored 20 points like 1 time all season, again very Frank like. Meh, the fit flat out sucks with him added to the roster. You gotta hope he becomes a much better shooter sooner rather than later.

Okoro is not a good fit for us.

[cgmw]

TBH can’t wait for this board to implode on draft night when Dolan trades 8 and Jules for Russ.

[robillionaire]

Okoro was really trash in these Kentucky games. If you ask me I'd say Maxey was easily the more impressive player overall. Okroro was straight up buns offensively. Great defender but oh my he has long ways to go offensively. I think he's a terrible fit on our roster quite honestly

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Everyone's had bad games if you cherry pick them out. I like Maxey too but he had games where he went 0-9, 1-8, 1-11 if you focus on the negative any of these guys can look bad

Yeah that's not the point. It's not cherry picking because there's plenty of bad games from Okoro that extended beyond those two games versus Kentucky. I like Okoro as a long term project, I see his potential as a defensive wing with some solid ball moving and "glue guy" attributes and slashing but where he fits on our roster is a problem. He admitted himself he sees himself as a 3 in the NBA, that means RJ gotta play guard but RJ is more of a 3. Okoro likes to defer a lot and hesitates to shoot even wide open shots a lot. Some Frank type of qualities in that regard. He scored 20 points like 1 time all season, again very Frank like. Meh, the fit flat out sucks with him added to the roster. You gotta hope he becomes a much better shooter sooner rather than later.

agreed about the fit no argument on that but the frank comparisons are bad, IO gets to the FT line at a high rate, is athletic, fearless attacking and can finish, frank can't do any of that in addition to his inability to shoot he is a very timid player. okoro is a shot away from being really good in every aspect of the game, which take it with a grain of salt but he claims his shot is better and I never thought his form was that bad to begin with. frank needs to develop a shot, plus a heart to give him courage and stop being afraid of contact, any kind of skill around the rim, etc. he just has no dog in him and okoro does

[Oscirus]

if they're so sold on okoro then they need to find out what they can get for RJ asap cuz those two dont mesh and the paint would just be clogged as **** when the knicks are on offense

[NoDopeOnSundays]

they need to find out what they can get for RJ asap

[Oscirus]

they need to find out what they can get for RJ asap

Im not down with that either. Im just saying drafting two people who dont fit together this high in the lottery is asnine and will only devalue your youth

[HEZI]

Everyone's had bad games if you cherry pick them out. I like Maxey too but he had games where he went 0-9, 1-8, 1-11 if you focus on the negative any of these guys can look bad

Yeah that's not the point. It's not cherry picking because there's plenty of bad games from Okoro that extended beyond those two games versus Kentucky. I like Okoro as a long term project, I see his potential as a defensive wing with some solid ball moving and "glue guy" attributes and slashing but where he fits on our roster is a problem. He admitted himself he sees himself as a 3 in the NBA, that means RJ gotta play guard but RJ is more of a 3. Okoro likes to defer a lot and hesitates to shoot even wide open shots a lot. Some Frank type of qualities in that regard. He scored 20 points like 1 time all season, again very Frank like. Meh, the fit flat out sucks with him added to the roster. You gotta hope he becomes a much better shooter sooner rather than later.

agreed about the fit no argument on that but the frank comparisons are bad, IO gets to the FT line at a high rate, is athletic, fearless attacking and can finish, frank can't do any of that in addition to his inability to shoot he is a very timid player. okoro is a shot away from being really good in every aspect of the game, which take it with a grain of salt but he claims his shot is better and I never thought his form was that bad to begin with. frank needs to develop a shot, plus a heart to give him courage and stop being afraid of contact, any kind of skill around the rim, etc. he just has no dog in him and okoro does

He's not another Frank, he does however have some Frank like tendencies when it comes to passing up open shots, standing around and watching other players do the work and going through long periods of time where he either looks invisible or just bad offensively. It's really tough to project what kind of player he will be at the end of the day but you gotta hope he's not another Stanley Johnson who's game does resemble Okoro quite a bit and the numbers are strikingly similar as well. Like I said I like the kid as a project we'll see how he develops over time but there's a lot that concerns me with him especially for us.

The more I watch Maxey, the more I like his game and overall fit on the roster next to RJ. Maxey doesn't have to be the pick, but if it was between the two, I'm leaning heavily towards Maxey.

[HarthorneWingo]

if they're so sold on okoro then they need to find out what they can get for RJ asap cuz those two dont mesh and the paint would just be clogged as **** when the knicks are on offense

We're not drafting Okoro

[YungKnicks]

What date can teams start tradin?

Actually they can agree in principle now.. deals won't be official until the new calender date, I believe its Nov. 22. (Same day Free Agency starts.. players actually sign)
Nov. 20 - deadline for team/player option
Nov. 18 - NBA Draft

[knickstape4ever]

if they're so sold on okoro then they need to find out what they can get for RJ asap cuz those two dont mesh and the paint would just be clogged as **** when the knicks are on offense

you don't get rid of RJ just because you draft Okoro...but they also shouldn't take Okoro b/c the fit w/ RJ

RJ would go #1 in this draft and he is a far better player than Okoro. Okoro is the better defender, RJ is better at pretty much everything else

[robillionaire]

if they're so sold on okoro then they need to find out what they can get for RJ asap cuz those two dont mesh and the paint would just be clogged as **** when the knicks are on offense

you don't get rid of RJ just because you draft Okoro...but they also shouldn't take Okoro b/c the fit w/ RJ

RJ would go #1 in this draft and he is a far better player than Okoro. Okoro is the better defender, RJ is better at pretty much everything else

I actually think Okoro could turn out to be better than RJ. He's the better defender so we already have that. I think he'll be just as good around the rim if not better, he's more explosive than RJ, RJ perhaps a marginally better passer but Okoro has some upside there as well, and neither can make shots or free throws very well but if I had to pick one of them as more likely to improve on the shot I think I'd say Okoro because his form looks less broken to me than RJs does. Okoro can also finish with both hands instead of just his left hand like RJ.

[robillionaire]

Yeah that's not the point. It's not cherry picking because there's plenty of bad games from Okoro that extended beyond those two games versus Kentucky. I like Okoro as a long term project, I see his potential as a defensive wing with some solid ball moving and "glue guy" attributes and slashing but where he fits on our roster is a problem. He admitted himself he sees himself as a 3 in the NBA, that means RJ gotta play guard but RJ is more of a 3. Okoro likes to defer a lot and hesitates to shoot even wide open shots a lot. Some Frank type of qualities in that regard. He scored 20 points like 1 time all season, again very Frank like. Meh, the fit flat out sucks with him added to the roster. You gotta hope he becomes a much better shooter sooner rather than later.

agreed about the fit no argument on that but the frank comparisons are bad, IO gets to the FT line at a high rate, is athletic, fearless attacking and can finish, frank can't do any of that in addition to his inability to shoot he is a very timid player. okoro is a shot away from being really good in every aspect of the game, which take it with a grain of salt but he claims his shot is better and I never thought his form was that bad to begin with. frank needs to develop a shot, plus a heart to give him courage and stop being afraid of contact, any kind of skill around the rim, etc. he just has no dog in him and okoro does

He's not another Frank, he does however have some Frank like tendencies when it comes to passing up open shots, standing around and watching other players do the work and going through long periods of time where he either looks invisible or just bad offensively. It's really tough to project what kind of player he will be at the end of the day but you gotta hope he's not another Stanley Johnson who's game does resemble Okoro quite a bit and the numbers are strikingly similar as well. Like I said I like the kid as a project we'll see how he develops over time but there's a lot that concerns me with him especially for us.

The more I watch Maxey, the more I like his game and overall fit on the roster next to RJ. Maxey doesn't have to be the pick, but if it was between the two, I'm leaning heavily towards Maxey.

Well that's fine. I like Maxey too. Won't hear any complaints from me if we take him. He'd definitely be the much better fit. I'm just completely disregarding fit in my analysis of these guys and I admit that

[louisorr]

if okoro is an upside gamble why not just draft Jaden mcdaniels? and grab an asset while your at it.
vassel may be the best bet after all this "what if" talk at 8

[robillionaire]

i was trying to write-in vote okoro starting at #4 of the board draft so I have to stand by my choice if he's there at 8 I'm taking him there, wouldn't even need to think twice about it gg ez clap

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[knickstape4ever]

if they're so sold on okoro then they need to find out what they can get for RJ asap cuz those two dont mesh and the paint would just be clogged as **** when the knicks are on offense

you don't get rid of RJ just because you draft Okoro...but they also shouldn't take Okoro b/c the fit w/ RJ

RJ would go #1 in this draft and he is a far better player than Okoro. Okoro is the better defender, RJ is better at pretty much everything else

I actually think Okoro could turn out to be better than RJ. He's the better defender so we already have that. I think he'll be just as good around the rim if not better, he's more explosive than RJ, RJ perhaps a marginally better passer but Okoro has some upside there as well, and neither can make shots or free throws very well but if I had to pick one of them as more likely to improve on the shot I think I'd say Okoro because his form looks less broken to me than RJs does. Okoro can also finish with both hands instead of just his left hand like RJ.

yeah I dont think Okoro will be better than RJ. RJ in HS, College, and for Canada was a prolific scorer. he's wired to score in a way that Okoro isn't. RJ's also a better rebounder and passer.

I expect that w/ better spacing, RJ's 2 point efficiency will increase b/c he won't have to drive into a crowded paint. he's very strong for his age and showed the ability to finish through contact and get the and1 (hitting the FT....different story)

RJ is an underrated athlete, he's explosive himself and he "measured in the 95th to 99th percentile for his body weight in both acceleration and deceleration force at P3 Performance last year, which put him in a class with Harden and Luka Doncic."-the Athletic

[Oscirus]

if they're so sold on okoro then they need to find out what they can get for RJ asap cuz those two dont mesh and the paint would just be clogged as **** when the knicks are on offense

We're not drafting Okoro

Well obviously not cuz we're drafting kira, but i was just remarking on that hypothetical