*Felton traded to the Knicks. Knicks not matching Lin?

No35 · Post #1901 » by **No35** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:02 am

Fury wrote:Like 5 years on this board and a bunch of **** nonsense posted and Fischella is the first dude I had to put on ignore. Has he ever seen either player ball?

Well, he just likes to see fatties and middle aged men lumber up the court.

Butch718 · Post #1902 » by **Butch718** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:02 am

Whether Lin is a flash in the pan, or is worth his current contract seems to be irrelevant to me at this point. Fact of the matter is I enjoy rooting for him, and the thought of losing him really sucks.

Yes I realize that he only played a limited amount of games and that he has holes in his game. Still doesn't change the fact that I grew attached to him during his time here. Eventually I'll get over it, but for now I'm upset.

21shumpst · Post #1903 » by **21shumpst** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:03 am

Kidknick! wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
Kidknick! wrote:Enough with the goddamn "Lin brings in outside money and raises stock prices in MSG" nonsense. How the hell does any of that translate into the operation of running a NBA team and having FINANCIAL flexibility in the face of a massive luxury tax related DIRECTLY to basketball operations? I would like him back but the money is CRAZY...

The financial flexibility has been thrown out the door a long time ago.

Last time I checked Melo, Tyson, STATue, Camby and Kidd all come off the books at the same time. Did something change? I get it, people love Lin. But matching this and getting hammered by the luxury tax may be too much.

Uhhh... If we match, Lin gets off the books at the same time as well.

ibraheim718 · Post #1904 » by **ibraheim718** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:03 am

NYKat wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
NYKat wrote:
Potential is not part of the equation, we are in win now mode.

He said felton downgrades our chances at winning which is not possible if he played better than Lin in NY.

You're missing the point... he proved he can be that player. And for us to WIN NOW we needed him to be that player or find someone who can of which there are only two of.

I don't get how that relates to what Doc was saying to me...

I don't feel Lin is the ONLY player who can play PG for this team, especially at that price tag.

You name another PG who is reasonably available besides Nash or Paul that can lead this team with two cornerstone pieces that don't complement each other well to a championship?

Knicks80_20 · Post #1905 » by **Knicks80_20** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:03 am

NYKat wrote:I don't get how that relates to what Doc was saying to me...

I don't feel Lin is the ONLY player who can play PG for this team, especially at that price tag.

I'm glad you feel that way. I'm sure there's a boatload of PG's averaging 18/7 on 21 PER willing to play for us on the mini-MLE.

[GR] · Post #1906 » by **[GR]** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:03 am

Fischella wrote:
ORANGEandBLUE wrote:
Who are the top 5 NBA players holding the record for the most points scored in their first 4 starts since the ABA - NBA merger?

Jeremy Lin .............109
Allen Iverson .......... 101
Shaquille O’Neal .... 100
Michael Jordan ........ 99
Billy Ray Bates ....... 99

Sooo... he has Billy Ray Bates potential, he'd be out of the NBA in 2015...

CoolKids · Post #1907 » by **CoolKids** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:04 am

Butch718 wrote:Whether Lin is a flash in the pan, or is worth his current contract seems to be irrelevant to me at this point. Fact of the matter is I enjoy rooting for him, and the thought of losing him really sucks.

Yes I realize that he only played a limited amount of games and that he has holes in his game. Still doesn't change the fact that I grew attached to him during him time here. Eventually I'll get over it, but for now I'm upset.

the most level headed response in this thread.

stevieg987 · Post #1908 » by **stevieg987** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:04 am

Hardaway 10 wrote:
Knicks80_20 wrote:
He put up exactly 11/6 two years ago too in Denver...
This isn't just a one-season thing.

Playing in a timeshare with Ty Lawson and mostly as a 3rd guard in the rotation.

While being a malcontent (pouting about not starting), getting over 30 minutes a game, and consistently blowing games for that Nuggets team.

Every Nuggets fan rejoiced his departure; as every Blazers fan is probably doing now.

Clincher · Post #1909 » by **Clincher** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:04 am

No35 wrote:
Fury wrote:Like 5 years on this board and a bunch of **** nonsense posted and Fischella is the first dude I had to put on ignore. Has he ever seen either player ball?

Well, he just likes to see fatties and middle aged men lumber up the court.

Charles Barkley was a pretty good fattie.

Just because someone may have some extra baby fat or what not doesn't mean they are overweight or unable to give you some minutes up and down the floor.

Not everyone is Jerome James or Eddy Curry.

No-Man · Post #1910 » by **No-Man** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:04 am

CoolKids wrote:
Fischella wrote:
CoolKids wrote:I dont think anyone wants Felton over Lin. It just isnt the end of the world if thats what management decides. Suck it up.

I was hoping that we'll not match any offers for Lin/Fields, but that wasn't likely back then, now It so close to be true... It'll be like Christmas for me... what a twist!

Happy Knick fan here!

why wouldnt you want them to match Lin? What negative is there for you personally?

I hate that kind of PG, like Dragic, Lin, Calderon... they are too ball-dominant, don't play D and my opinion are pretty much dead weight for their teams.

I like smart players better than flashy guys, that's why I'm not sold on Amare either, but we can't trade his ass, he's untradeable with that contract, but I can live with him, but Lin... would be too much for me.

ibraheim718 · Post #1911 » by **ibraheim718** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:04 am

Kidknick! wrote:
ibraheim718 wrote:
Kidknick! wrote:Enough with the goddamn "Lin brings in outside money and raises stock prices in MSG" nonsense. How the hell does any of that translate into the operation of running a NBA team and having FINANCIAL flexibility in the face of a massive luxury tax related DIRECTLY to basketball operations? I would like him back but the money is CRAZY...

The financial flexibility has been thrown out the door a long time ago.

Last time I checked Melo, Tyson, STATue, Camby and Kidd all come off the books at the same time. Did something change? I get it, people love Lin. But matching this and getting hammered by the luxury tax may be too much.

I'm talking about the next 3 years when you have the chance to add a game changing piece.

No35 · Post #1912 » by **No35** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:05 am

Clincher wrote:
No35 wrote:
Fury wrote:Like 5 years on this board and a bunch of **** nonsense posted and Fischella is the first dude I had to put on ignore. Has he ever seen either player ball?

Well, he just likes to see fatties and middle aged men lumber up the court.

Charles Barkley was a pretty good fattie.

Just because someone may have some extra baby fat or what not doesn't mean they are overweight or unable to give you some minutes up and down the floor.

Not everyone is Jerome James or Eddy Curry.

Ray Felton is not Barkley.

HarthorneWingo · Post #1913 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:05 am

Butch718 wrote:Whether Lin is a flash in the pan, or is worth his current contract seems to be irrelevant to me at this point. Fact of the matter is I enjoy rooting for him, and the thought of losing him really sucks.

Yes I realize that he only played a limited amount of games and that he has holes in his game. Still doesn't change the fact that I grew attached to him during him time here. Eventually I'll get over it, but for now I'm upset.

That sums it up for me.

"Duh Winning"

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GratefulDead · Post #1914 » by **GratefulDead** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:05 am

DocZaius wrote:Might as well just reap massive profits from MSG shares falling like rock on Monday

Go ahead and short msg. I have a hunch you won't make as much money as you seem to think.

guardplay320 · Post #1915 » by **guardplay320** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:05 am

LINearity Wins wrote:They Knicks (Sorry isn't us anymore) once had very good future with young talent:
Lin
Shumpert
Fields
J.Jordan
J. Harrelson

might plus Toney Douglas , who can play any game this season with Knicks ?

Can they win Brooklyn now ? I doubt that

Orange Mamba · Post #1916 » by **Orange Mamba** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:06 am

Butch718 wrote:Whether Lin is a flash in the pan, or is worth his current contract seems to be irrelevant to me at this point. Fact of the matter is I enjoy rooting for him, and the thought of losing him really sucks.

Yes I realize that he only played a limited amount of games and that he has holes in his game. Still doesn't change the fact that I grew attached to him during his time here. Eventually I'll get over it, but for now I'm upset.

+1

Smokey9782 · Post #1917 » by **Smokey9782** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:06 am

Several media outlets confirmed the report, but The Oregonian has learned that the deal is not complete and includes several other components coming to Portland. The details of the deal are expected to be finalized today.

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index ... witter.com

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #1918 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:07 am

Clincher wrote:Charles Barkley was a pretty good fattie.

Just because someone may have some extra baby fat or what not doesn't mean they are overweight or unable to give you some minutes up and down the floor.

Not everyone is Jerome James or Eddy Curry.

C'mon... Felton's conditioning has been criticized by multiple coaches. He was indisputably terrible last season, which explains why nobody else made him an offer.

Knicks80_20 · Post #1919 » by **Knicks80_20** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:07 am

Fischella wrote:I hate that kind of PG, like Dragic, Lin, Calderon... they are too ball-dominant, don't play D and my opinion are pretty much dead weight for their teams.

I like smart players better than flashy guys, that's why I'm not sold on Amare either, but we can't trade his ass, he's untradeable with that contract, but I can live with him, but Lin... would be too much for me.

"I like smart players better than flashy guys, so Lin would be too much for me and we should get Felton." You just keep getting better and better.

knicksNOTslick · Post #1920 » by **knicksNOTslick** » Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:07 am

Nothing wrong with being 15 deep. LOL. Bring in all the former Knicks!

Let's have a party. I miss Jeffries.

Lin-Kidd-Felton as our PGs.

Dirty Kurty and Camby back as our bigs.

Let's just look at the bright side. Lin is getting matched. We're all in and if someone gets hurt, that's cool. We got another one hungry and waiting to play.