ImageImageImageImageImage

Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond

Moderators: j4remi, HerSports85, NoLayupRule, GONYK, Jeff Van Gully, dakomish23, Deeeez Knicks, mpharris36

spree2kawhi
RealGM
Posts: 12,612
And1: 5,746
Joined: Mar 01, 2005

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1981 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:31 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
ctorres wrote:
Read on Twitter


I could see the Knicks trade for Nurkic even if we don't want him.

No thanks. He’s terrible now. Portland trading Ayton for him aged awfully

He’s still very good at what Towns provides. We need a center for what Towns doesn’t provide though.
spree2kawhi
RealGM
Posts: 12,612
And1: 5,746
Joined: Mar 01, 2005

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1982 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:32 pm

Nuggets want Boucher. I think he could help us too. I also liked what I saw from Poeltl. I hope we’ll be active.
8516knicks
General Manager
Posts: 8,598
And1: 6,487
Joined: May 18, 2017
   

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1983 » by 8516knicks » Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:39 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:Nuggets want Boucher. I think he could help us too. I also liked what I saw from Poeltl. I hope we’ll be active.


Raps have said Poetl not available.
User avatar
thebuzzardman
RealGM
Posts: 82,194
And1: 96,135
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
Location: Villanovknicks

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1984 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:49 pm

All I know is that the Knicks don't need to carry 4 C's that aren't that great, since with KAT that makes FIVE centers.

Mitch
Sims
Precious
Suckporti

Roster move begging to happen here.

I really don't care if it's Sims for some scrub SF/PF type.
Or Huporti for whatever.
Precious has some value because he can play some 4, if you like your 4's not that skilled.
Mitch supposedly will come back and save our defense but who really believes he's coming back with more than 20 games left in the season.

This is where the FO earns the $. Make a move, hopefully the right one.
Image
User avatar
Jalen Bluntson
RealGM
Posts: 25,474
And1: 27,159
Joined: Nov 07, 2012
       

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1985 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:13 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:All I know is that the Knicks don't need to carry 4 C's that aren't that great, since with KAT that makes FIVE centers.

Mitch
Sims
Precious
Suckporti

Roster move begging to happen here.

I really don't care if it's Sims for some scrub SF/PF type.
Or Huporti for whatever.
Precious has some value because he can play some 4, if you like your 4's not that skilled.
Mitch supposedly will come back and save our defense but who really believes he's coming back with more than 20 games left in the season.

This is where the FO earns the $. Make a move, hopefully the right one.


Whatever teams allegedly showing interest in Sims, get them on the phone immediately. It's been 84 years and he has not evolved one bit. Huk may still have something to develop but, DNP/CD and practice is apparently how we are developing him.

Dump Toppin and shuffle the two way contracts to bring up players we can actually try out. That dude is useless. Maybe we find something that way. It's the only option we have to bring in new players without a trade or going over the stupid apron. I am not 100% sure if that's allowed but, it seems like it should/could be. Ryan apparently will never play again. Why exactly did we bring him back? Dump him too if Thibs doesn't want to play him.

Perhaps playing the bench more early this season would have provided some answers but, nope. 40mpg for the starters and 40 minutes combined for 2-3 guys off the bench was the only way Thibs knows how to do things.

I'm checked out on the HC completely and, it looks like the team is getting there too. When your opponent is better prepared than you night in and night out it must get exhausting. When you only play one way on both ends of the ball, teams are going to figure it out. They have now and Thibs still refuses to change for whatever reason. Ego is the reason of you ask me.
:beer: RIP mags
R-DAWG
RealGM
Posts: 19,970
And1: 6,023
Joined: Nov 07, 2003

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1986 » by R-DAWG » Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:36 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:All I know is that the Knicks don't need to carry 4 C's that aren't that great, since with KAT that makes FIVE centers.

Mitch
Sims
Precious
Suckporti

Roster move begging to happen here.

I really don't care if it's Sims for some scrub SF/PF type.
Or Huporti for whatever.
Precious has some value because he can play some 4, if you like your 4's not that skilled.
Mitch supposedly will come back and save our defense but who really believes he's coming back with more than 20 games left in the season.

This is where the FO earns the $. Make a move, hopefully the right one.


I feel like Precious/Towns is a perfect pairing.

Precious has the defensive versatility to either switch or protect the rim, and with Towns, Brunson, Bridges and Anunoby there is enough shooting on the court.
User avatar
thebuzzardman
RealGM
Posts: 82,194
And1: 96,135
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
Location: Villanovknicks

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1987 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:47 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:All I know is that the Knicks don't need to carry 4 C's that aren't that great, since with KAT that makes FIVE centers.

Mitch
Sims
Precious
Suckporti

Roster move begging to happen here.

I really don't care if it's Sims for some scrub SF/PF type.
Or Huporti for whatever.
Precious has some value because he can play some 4, if you like your 4's not that skilled.
Mitch supposedly will come back and save our defense but who really believes he's coming back with more than 20 games left in the season.

This is where the FO earns the $. Make a move, hopefully the right one.


I feel like Precious/Towns is a perfect pairing.

Precious has the defensive versatility to either switch or protect the rim, and with Towns, Brunson, Bridges and Anunoby there is enough shooting on the court.


Why trade for a 5 who can spread the floor only to pair him with a 4 who is a near zero on offense, who isn't a real threat to shoot 3's, so his man can sag off, clog the paint on defense and/or help all over the floor?

Precious brings all the problems Hart did last year but much worse. He's an ok big that you play 10 mpg and don't expect much from.

I'm ok with Precious though, as a backup 5, because he can sort of play some 4, as opposed to Mitch.
But the Knicks are carrying Precious AND Mitch.
AND Sims. And Hukporti.

It's a roster mess. I think the FO knows it, they are just looking for the right trade. The right trade might not be until the offseason, though Precious is on a 1 year deal, so if he's going, it's before the deadline.

That's if any team really wants him. Much like Sims, who is really clamoring for Precious? Maybe they'll want a 2nd rounder that comes with them more.
Image
User avatar
Jalen Bluntson
RealGM
Posts: 25,474
And1: 27,159
Joined: Nov 07, 2012
       

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1988 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:08 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:All I know is that the Knicks don't need to carry 4 C's that aren't that great, since with KAT that makes FIVE centers.

Mitch
Sims
Precious
Suckporti

Roster move begging to happen here.

I really don't care if it's Sims for some scrub SF/PF type.
Or Huporti for whatever.
Precious has some value because he can play some 4, if you like your 4's not that skilled.
Mitch supposedly will come back and save our defense but who really believes he's coming back with more than 20 games left in the season.

This is where the FO earns the $. Make a move, hopefully the right one.


I feel like Precious/Towns is a perfect pairing.

Precious has the defensive versatility to either switch or protect the rim, and with Towns, Brunson, Bridges and Anunoby there is enough shooting on the court.


Why trade for a 5 who can spread the floor only to pair him with a 4 who is a near zero on offense, who isn't a real threat to shoot 3's, so his man can sag off, clog the paint on defense and/or help all over the floor?

Precious brings all the problems Hart did last year but much worse. He's an ok big that you play 10 mpg and don't expect much from.

I'm ok with Precious though, as a backup 5, because he can sort of play some 4, as opposed to Mitch.
But the Knicks are carrying Precious AND Mitch.
AND Sims. And Hukporti.

It's a roster mess. I think the FO knows it, they are just looking for the right trade. The right trade might not be until the offseason, though Precious is on a 1 year deal, so if he's going, it's before the deadline.

That's if any team really wants him. Much like Sims, who is really clamoring for Precious? Maybe they'll want a 2nd rounder that comes with them more.


Our problem is we can't do 2-1 trades without going over the apron. We would need to bring in the 14th contract that we currently can't afford to fill the void.

Precious/Sims combine for 8mil which isn't really that much.
Mitch/Sims is close to 17mil which makes sense salary wise but, what value are we getting back?
Mitch/Precious is a great salary match but, for who? Would need another 5 in that trade because we can't possibly want to use Sims/Huk as the backup 5 right?

Being up against that stupid apron is really making this difficult!
:beer: RIP mags
8516knicks
General Manager
Posts: 8,598
And1: 6,487
Joined: May 18, 2017
   

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1989 » by 8516knicks » Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:12 pm

What happened to Precious, he seemed much better last year? I remember games with double figures in pts and also some with rebounds. He got what, 6 minutes last night? Is he the new Cam Reddish? Is it Thibbs?
Adelheid
RealGM
Posts: 11,746
And1: 7,965
Joined: Jul 10, 2014
 

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1990 » by Adelheid » Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:40 pm

Payne is playing like he is afraid to shoot. Wasnt like that at the start
User avatar
sol537
RealGM
Posts: 15,390
And1: 7,962
Joined: Nov 07, 2001

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1991 » by sol537 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:56 pm

Hart, Precious, Payne and WAS 1st, Rokas, 2nd for Deni and TimeLord.

Hart, Precious, Payne for Draymond and Podz

Either trade improves our defense and offense and depth.
R-DAWG
RealGM
Posts: 19,970
And1: 6,023
Joined: Nov 07, 2003

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1992 » by R-DAWG » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:10 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
I feel like Precious/Towns is a perfect pairing.

Precious has the defensive versatility to either switch or protect the rim, and with Towns, Brunson, Bridges and Anunoby there is enough shooting on the court.


Why trade for a 5 who can spread the floor only to pair him with a 4 who is a near zero on offense, who isn't a real threat to shoot 3's, so his man can sag off, clog the paint on defense and/or help all over the floor?

Precious brings all the problems Hart did last year but much worse. He's an ok big that you play 10 mpg and don't expect much from.

I'm ok with Precious though, as a backup 5, because he can sort of play some 4, as opposed to Mitch.
But the Knicks are carrying Precious AND Mitch.
AND Sims. And Hukporti.

It's a roster mess. I think the FO knows it, they are just looking for the right trade. The right trade might not be until the offseason, though Precious is on a 1 year deal, so if he's going, it's before the deadline.

That's if any team really wants him. Much like Sims, who is really clamoring for Precious? Maybe they'll want a 2nd rounder that comes with them more.


Our problem is we can't do 2-1 trades without going over the apron. We would need to bring in the 14th contract that we currently can't afford to fill the void.

Precious/Sims combine for 8mil which isn't really that much.
Mitch/Sims is close to 17mil which makes sense salary wise but, what value are we getting back?
Mitch/Precious is a great salary match but, for who? Would need another 5 in that trade because we can't possibly want to use Sims/Huk as the backup 5 right?

Being up against that stupid apron is really making this difficult!


Yes, these are the sacrifices you need to make when you go top heavy with your roster.

When you pay a superstar price for high end role players, depth becomes a real issue.
User avatar
Jalen Bluntson
RealGM
Posts: 25,474
And1: 27,159
Joined: Nov 07, 2012
       

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1993 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:24 pm

sol537 wrote:Hart, Precious, Payne and WAS 1st, Rokas, 2nd for Deni and TimeLord.

Hart, Precious, Payne for Draymond and Podz

Either trade improves our defense and offense and depth.


We can't do either of those trades without going over the apron. I won't even comment on the actual players involved or why the other teams would do it.
:beer: RIP mags
KnixinSix
Head Coach
Posts: 7,188
And1: 3,871
Joined: Jul 27, 2013
Location: In the Spirit
       

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1994 » by KnixinSix » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:43 pm

Knick Richards is gonna be the guy.

New reality of Son ship!
All who receive and believe in Jesus, given the right to become children of God. Not born of flesh, but born of Spirit. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. Glory that came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
-John 1
User avatar
thebuzzardman
RealGM
Posts: 82,194
And1: 96,135
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
Location: Villanovknicks

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1995 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:44 pm

KnixinSix wrote:Knick Richards is gonna be the guy.

https://www.youtube.com/live/5mT4XwfZ8mM?si=m9mh1ylgNjriO6xp


Damn, now others than Rhodey spamming this guy :D
Image
User avatar
Jalen Bluntson
RealGM
Posts: 25,474
And1: 27,159
Joined: Nov 07, 2012
       

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1996 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:48 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Why trade for a 5 who can spread the floor only to pair him with a 4 who is a near zero on offense, who isn't a real threat to shoot 3's, so his man can sag off, clog the paint on defense and/or help all over the floor?

Precious brings all the problems Hart did last year but much worse. He's an ok big that you play 10 mpg and don't expect much from.

I'm ok with Precious though, as a backup 5, because he can sort of play some 4, as opposed to Mitch.
But the Knicks are carrying Precious AND Mitch.
AND Sims. And Hukporti.

It's a roster mess. I think the FO knows it, they are just looking for the right trade. The right trade might not be until the offseason, though Precious is on a 1 year deal, so if he's going, it's before the deadline.

That's if any team really wants him. Much like Sims, who is really clamoring for Precious? Maybe they'll want a 2nd rounder that comes with them more.


Our problem is we can't do 2-1 trades without going over the apron. We would need to bring in the 14th contract that we currently can't afford to fill the void.

Precious/Sims combine for 8mil which isn't really that much.
Mitch/Sims is close to 17mil which makes sense salary wise but, what value are we getting back?
Mitch/Precious is a great salary match but, for who? Would need another 5 in that trade because we can't possibly want to use Sims/Huk as the backup 5 right?

Being up against that stupid apron is really making this difficult!


Yes, these are the sacrifices you need to make when you go top heavy with your roster.

When you pay a superstar price for high end role players, depth becomes a real issue.


Who is getting superstar money? Superstar money is at 50-60mil plus these days. If you think OG is overpaid that's debatable. I don't have a problem with any of the contracts at all.

It's just the nature of the new/stupid apron rules that make this difficult. We are at the minimum for regular contracts so every dollar/player we send out has to come back. We can't do 3-2 or 2-1 trades without signing another vet mini to fill the last spot. That will put us over the apron. We need to avoid that apron this year and next if possible. Otherwise we risk the pick freeze nonsense ams whatever other stupid shyt they came up with just as we get close to contention. Typical Knicks timing.
:beer: RIP mags
User avatar
Jalen Bluntson
RealGM
Posts: 25,474
And1: 27,159
Joined: Nov 07, 2012
       

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1997 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:51 pm

KnixinSix wrote:Knick Richards is gonna be the guy.



Precious for Richards?
:beer: RIP mags
KnixinSix
Head Coach
Posts: 7,188
And1: 3,871
Joined: Jul 27, 2013
Location: In the Spirit
       

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1998 » by KnixinSix » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:08 pm

KnixinSix wrote:Knick Richards is gonna be the guy.





Maybe or...

Josh Green and Nick Richards for Mitchell Robinson, Dadiet and 2nd round picks
New reality of Son ship!
All who receive and believe in Jesus, given the right to become children of God. Not born of flesh, but born of Spirit. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. Glory that came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
-John 1
KnixinSix
Head Coach
Posts: 7,188
And1: 3,871
Joined: Jul 27, 2013
Location: In the Spirit
       

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#1999 » by KnixinSix » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:13 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:Knick Richards is gonna be the guy.



Precious for Richards?


https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/nba-rumors-knicks-trade-hornets-nick-richards/amp/

From Google on Josh

Josh Green is considered a very good defender in the NBA, known for his high energy, quick hands, and ability to disrupt opposing players with steals and active play on the defensive end; many analysts highlight his defensive prowess as one of his strongest attributes.
Key points about Josh Green's defense:
High steal rate:
He consistently ranks high in steals per possession due to his anticipation and quick hands.
Versatility:
Green can guard multiple positions thanks to his athleticism and good wingspan.
Hustle and intensity:
He is known for his relentless effort on defense, creating turnovers and disrupting offensive flows.

Mitch, Dadiet and 3- 2s for Nick and Josh
New reality of Son ship!
All who receive and believe in Jesus, given the right to become children of God. Not born of flesh, but born of Spirit. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. Glory that came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
-John 1
User avatar
NoDopeOnSundays
RealGM
Posts: 27,374
And1: 56,937
Joined: Nov 22, 2005
         

Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#2000 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sat Jan 11, 2025 6:37 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:Knick Richards is gonna be the guy.



Precious for Richards?


https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/nba-rumors-knicks-trade-hornets-nick-richards/amp/

From Google on Josh

Josh Green is considered a very good defender in the NBA, known for his high energy, quick hands, and ability to disrupt opposing players with steals and active play on the defensive end; many analysts highlight his defensive prowess as one of his strongest attributes.
Key points about Josh Green's defense:
High steal rate:
He consistently ranks high in steals per possession due to his anticipation and quick hands.
Versatility:
Green can guard multiple positions thanks to his athleticism and good wingspan.
Hustle and intensity:
He is known for his relentless effort on defense, creating turnovers and disrupting offensive flows.

Mitch, Dadiet and 3- 2s for Nick and Josh



They wouldn't trade Green, it'll be Martin if there's any kind of trade with them.

Return to New York Knicks