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GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT

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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#21 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Dec 3, 2024 4:59 am

Clyde_Style wrote:I went to the game in Orlando last season the evening before the RJ/IQ for OG trade was announced. They were clearly bummed out and already knew what was going down and got their asses kicked.

Franz was playing really well and Thibs had RJ on him much of the time which was nuts as there was nothing RJ could do about that and Wagner ragdolled him. In hindsight, considering Thibs had to already know RJ was leaving, if feels like Thibs was flipping off RJ by putting him on Wagner. It was just perverse.


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Post#22 » by matchman » Tue Dec 3, 2024 5:01 am

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matchman wrote:
Capn'O wrote:This is a tough game. Magic are 10-3 with Goga in the lineup, all without Paolo.

Do you think they are for real or just catching a hot streak?


Dunno. I haven't watched them. They're for real in that they're well coached and have a strong defensive mindset. That's always a tough out. We have more top end talent but we've struggled against teams with their complexion.


I haven't watched Magic either.

But Wagner brothers are for real, just look at how Germany won the FIBA world cup, so even without Banchero (many compare him with Melo) they still have winners in this Magic team.

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Post#23 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Dec 3, 2024 5:06 am

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Clyde_Style wrote:I went to the game in Orlando last season the evening before the RJ/IQ for OG trade was announced. They were clearly bummed out and already knew what was going down and got their asses kicked.

Franz was playing really well and Thibs had RJ on him much of the time which was nuts as there was nothing RJ could do about that and Wagner ragdolled him. In hindsight, considering Thibs had to already know RJ was leaving, if feels like Thibs was flipping off RJ by putting him on Wagner. It was just perverse.


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Post#24 » by Clyde_Style » Tue Dec 3, 2024 5:07 am

Capn'O wrote:
matchman wrote:
Capn'O wrote:This is a tough game. Magic are 10-3 with Goga in the lineup, all without Paolo.

Do you think they are for real or just catching a hot streak?


Dunno. I haven't watched them. They're for real in that they're well coached and have a strong defensive mindset. That's always a tough out. We have more top end talent but we've struggled against teams with their complexion.


against white boys or big defensive squads?
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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#26 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Dec 3, 2024 5:20 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:I went to the game in Orlando last season the evening before the RJ/IQ for OG trade was announced. They were clearly bummed out and already knew what was going down and got their asses kicked.

Franz was playing really well and Thibs had RJ on him much of the time which was nuts as there was nothing RJ could do about that and Wagner ragdolled him. In hindsight, considering Thibs had to already know RJ was leaving, if feels like Thibs was flipping off RJ by putting him on Wagner. It was just perverse.


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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#27 » by Capn'O » Tue Dec 3, 2024 5:43 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
matchman wrote:Do you think they are for real or just catching a hot streak?


Dunno. I haven't watched them. They're for real in that they're well coached and have a strong defensive mindset. That's always a tough out. We have more top end talent but we've struggled against teams with their complexion.


against white boys or big defensive squads?


I was thinking the latter.
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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#28 » by The KnicksFix » Tue Dec 3, 2024 6:16 am

Capn'O wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Dunno. I haven't watched them. They're for real in that they're well coached and have a strong defensive mindset. That's always a tough out. We have more top end talent but we've struggled against teams with their complexion.


against white boys or big defensive squads?


I was thinking the latter.


We struggled against Kessler and Lavine, they white or light skinned. 8-)
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Post#29 » by spree2kawhi » Tue Dec 3, 2024 6:16 am

It’s a game we may lose but we’d win in the playoffs…
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Post#31 » by BKlutch » Tue Dec 3, 2024 8:19 am

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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#32 » by NiceLikeChrist » Tue Dec 3, 2024 8:53 am

This will be our 5th game against a top 10 defense. we're 0-4 so far. Time to show us something.
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Post#33 » by NiceLikeChrist » Tue Dec 3, 2024 8:57 am

Besart19 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:So. I think that the Magic might switch a lot because of their personnel.

What's the best way to counter a switch everything defense?


post them up and play inside out game all the time


this is what thibs likes to do and it usually sucks because it takes too long to get the ball into the post and then make a move/play

hart was emphasizing when teams switch on them they have to up the pace, constantly attack switches, make them make errors on the defensive end. stop standing around waiting for guys to seal off mismatches and throwing it into the post with 9 seconds left on the clock
NiceLikeChrist wrote:We are going to deeply regret this. We traded away the best player in the trade and still had to give up a great role player AND a pick?

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Post#34 » by Iron Mantis » Tue Dec 3, 2024 11:52 am

MrDollarBills wrote:So. I think that the Magic might switch a lot because of their personnel.

What's the best way to counter a switch everything defense?

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Post#35 » by Iron Mantis » Tue Dec 3, 2024 11:57 am

Besart19 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:So. I think that the Magic might switch a lot because of their personnel.

What's the best way to counter a switch everything defense?


post them up and play inside out game all the time

And good off-the-ball movement. No stagnation.
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Post#36 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Dec 3, 2024 12:32 pm

BKlutch wrote:The Wagner Bros.:
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Those Wagner boys are no joke :lol:
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Post#37 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Dec 3, 2024 12:35 pm

matchman wrote:
Capn'O wrote:This is a tough game. Magic are 10-3 with Goga in the lineup, all without Paolo.

Do you think they are for real or just catching a hot streak?


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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#38 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Dec 3, 2024 12:36 pm

Iron Mantis wrote:
Besart19 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:So. I think that the Magic might switch a lot because of their personnel.

What's the best way to counter a switch everything defense?


post them up and play inside out game all the time

And good off-the-ball movement. No stagnation.


I was thinking off ball actions/screens and cuts will help. Stagnating into iso ball plays into their hands.

Also, pushing off of every defensive rebound.
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Post#39 » by Iron Mantis » Tue Dec 3, 2024 12:51 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
Iron Mantis wrote:
Besart19 wrote:
post them up and play inside out game all the time

And good off-the-ball movement. No stagnation.


I was thinking off ball actions/screens and cuts will help. Stagnating into iso ball plays into their hands.

Also, pushing off of every defensive rebound.

:nod:

This team definitely needs to push the pace especially against good defenses.

But to consistently push the pace Thibs needs to use the bench to spread around all that energy usage.
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Re: GT: Magic vs Knicks 12/3 Tue 7:30PM TNT 

Post#40 » by Lord Commander » Tue Dec 3, 2024 12:56 pm

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