2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 2)

[mpharris36]

something about lamelo I want no parts of and you can't convince me otherwise

laVar?

Lavar is a part of it. New York is just so much more then just being good at basketball. I honestly don’t know if he has the mental fortitude to be a star in NY. Seems like he just would get swarmed by media attention and I just want someone focused on basketball.

Also we need a guard that can shoot. And he can’t shoot right now and his jumper is ugly AF.

[E-Balla]

something about lamelo I want no parts of and you can't convince me otherwise

laVar?

Lavar is a part of it. New York is just so much more then just being good at basketball. I honestly don’t know if he has the mental fortitude to be a star in NY. Seems like he just would get swarmed by media attention and I just want someone focused on basketball.

Also we need a guard that can shoot. And he can’t shoot right now and his jumper is ugly AF.

If any of the ball brothers have the mental fortitude to handle the NY media it's him. LaMelo's been in the public eye since 14 and been getting **** on the whole time. From people saying he's not an NBA player, to them saying he's not a 1st round pick, to them saying he's not a lotto pick, to now with them saying he's not top 5. He got **** on for scoring 100 points to raise money for a sick girl at his school. They criticized his move to Lithuania, the JBA, his move back to HS was stopped by eligibility, and the NBL. He's handled all of it extremely well, especially considering he was 14-17 years old all this time. If there's actually one think I love about LaMelo it's that. Dude has great mental fortitude and works hard to prove haters wrong. Now whether or not that can work against him (that Kobe mindset only works when you have Kobe abilities) IDK, but it's a good thing.

[mpharris36]

laVar?

Lavar is a part of it. New York is just so much more then just being good at basketball. I honestly don’t know if he has the mental fortitude to be a star in NY. Seems like he just would get swarmed by media attention and I just want someone focused on basketball.

Also we need a guard that can shoot. And he can’t shoot right now and his jumper is ugly AF.

If any of the ball brothers have the mental fortitude to handle the NY media it's him. LaMelo's been in the public eye since 14 and been getting **** on the whole time. From people saying he's not an NBA player, to them saying he's not a 1st round pick, to them saying he's not a lotto pick, to now with them saying he's not top 5. He got **** on for scoring 100 points to raise money for a sick girl at his school. They criticized his move to Lithuania, the JBA, his move back to HS was stopped by eligibility, and the NBL. He's handled all of it extremely well, especially considering he was 14-17 years old all this time. If there's actually one think I love about LaMelo it's that. Dude has great mental fortitude and works hard to prove haters wrong. Now whether or not that can work against him (that Kobe mindset only works when you have Kobe abilities) IDK, but it's a good thing.

I think his shot selection is poor, he grew up playing absolutely no defense in a AAU no team atmosphere. There are just to many question marks with him. I don’t need a social media darling I need a grinder.

Similar to how RJ is built for NY. I don’t need someone posting constantly on social media about video games and stuff. Give me Edwards or Halliburton. I want to build a certain culture here and RJ fits better with those guys in my opinion.

I am not even suggesting he won’t be good. I just do not like the fit on this team in this city.

[E-Balla]

Lavar is a part of it. New York is just so much more then just being good at basketball. I honestly don’t know if he has the mental fortitude to be a star in NY. Seems like he just would get swarmed by media attention and I just want someone focused on basketball.

Also we need a guard that can shoot. And he can’t shoot right now and his jumper is ugly AF.

If any of the ball brothers have the mental fortitude to handle the NY media it's him. LaMelo's been in the public eye since 14 and been getting **** on the whole time. From people saying he's not an NBA player, to them saying he's not a 1st round pick, to them saying he's not a lotto pick, to now with them saying he's not top 5. He got **** on for scoring 100 points to raise money for a sick girl at his school. They criticized his move to Lithuania, the JBA, his move back to HS was stopped by eligibility, and the NBL. He's handled all of it extremely well, especially considering he was 14-17 years old all this time. If there's actually one think I love about LaMelo it's that. Dude has great mental fortitude and works hard to prove haters wrong. Now whether or not that can work against him (that Kobe mindset only works when you have Kobe abilities) IDK, but it's a good thing.

I think his shot selection is poor, he grew up playing absolutely no defense in a AAU no team atmosphere. There are just to many question marks with him. I don’t need a social media darling I need a grinder.

Similar to how RJ is built for NY. I don’t need someone posting constantly on social media about video games and stuff. Give me Edwards or Halliburton. I want to build a certain culture here and RJ fits better with those guys in my opinion.

I am not even suggesting he won’t be good. I just do not like the fit on this team in this city.

LaMelo hasn't been on social media like that the last 2 years. Not any more than RJ at least. That's another big hurdle for him, people still have 14 year old LaMelo in mind. Seeing how he fared in Australia he seems way more mature than the kid he was when Lonzo got famous.

[3toheadmelo]

Read on Twitter

Some more info..

"Melo's foot is totally healed, but the doctor's policy is if you're out for six weeks, you must rehab for six weeks," Jackson texted. "He's starting court work tomorrow."

[NJ-NYK-17]

Melo could be fun but his shooting is terrible and his defense is worse.

How many times are we going to draft/start players who can't shoot

[ADeP7]

The draft is a crapshoot with everyone having major issues but man just give us someone to pair with
Rj and setup the future of a nice tandem
Barrett+ball - Barrett+Edwards - Barrett+ wiseman

All 3 have question marks but all 3 have major star potential.

However wings win championships. Edwards and Barrett could be a hell of a combo.

[RandlesCornrows]

We need either Wisemen or guards that can shoot around RJ

[Fat]

You want the best “fit” draft my mans nico mannion

[ADeP7]

Last x amount of champions
Raptors 19 - kawhi / siakam
Warriors 18/17 - Durant / klay
Cavs 16 - lebron / kyrie
Warriors 15 - klay / curry
Spurs 14 - kawhi
Heat 13/12 - lebron / wade/bosh

Wings are what win in this league.

If there’s a chance at Edwards you go for it
Pair Rj/Edwards. And find a pg who can 3 and D efficiently

[E-Balla]

Last x amount of champions
Raptors 19 - kawhi / siakam
Warriors 18/17 - Durant / klay
Cavs 16 - lebron / kyrie
Warriors 15 - klay / curry
Spurs 14 - kawhi
Heat 13/12 - lebron / wade/bosh

Wings are what win in this league.

If there’s a chance at Edwards you go for it
Pair Rj/Edwards. And find a pg who can 3 and D efficiently

I hate this logic. For that matter the Blazers should've taken Thompson over Bird because at that point centers won in the league.

[ADeP7]

Last x amount of champions
Raptors 19 - kawhi / siakam
Warriors 18/17 - Durant / klay
Cavs 16 - lebron / kyrie
Warriors 15 - klay / curry
Spurs 14 - kawhi
Heat 13/12 - lebron / wade/bosh

Wings are what win in this league.

If there’s a chance at Edwards you go for it
Pair Rj/Edwards. And find a pg who can 3 and D efficiently

I hate this logic. For that matter the Blazers should've taken Thompson over Bird because at that point centers won in the league.

Except I’m not saying blindly take any wing

Right now the consensus top 3 is Edwards ball wiseman. All have flaws. All have special abilities.
I’m saying If the prospects are even then I’d lean towards wings cause that’s what you can’t seem to find in free agency. Where as guards are more serviceable and able to come across

If it was a random wing vs wiseman or ball I’d say take one of them because of the value of taking one of them over just randomly taking a wing for the sake of taking one

[BLACKFEET 2010]

Melo could be fun but his shooting is terrible and his defense is worse.

How many times are we going to draft/start players who can't shoot

What did you think of Luka prior to the draft?

[Knicksfan1992]

If any of the ball brothers have the mental fortitude to handle the NY media it's him. LaMelo's been in the public eye since 14 and been getting **** on the whole time. From people saying he's not an NBA player, to them saying he's not a 1st round pick, to them saying he's not a lotto pick, to now with them saying he's not top 5. He got **** on for scoring 100 points to raise money for a sick girl at his school. They criticized his move to Lithuania, the JBA, his move back to HS was stopped by eligibility, and the NBL. He's handled all of it extremely well, especially considering he was 14-17 years old all this time. If there's actually one think I love about LaMelo it's that. Dude has great mental fortitude and works hard to prove haters wrong. Now whether or not that can work against him (that Kobe mindset only works when you have Kobe abilities) IDK, but it's a good thing.

I think his shot selection is poor, he grew up playing absolutely no defense in a AAU no team atmosphere. There are just to many question marks with him. I don’t need a social media darling I need a grinder.

Similar to how RJ is built for NY. I don’t need someone posting constantly on social media about video games and stuff. Give me Edwards or Halliburton. I want to build a certain culture here and RJ fits better with those guys in my opinion.

I am not even suggesting he won’t be good. I just do not like the fit on this team in this city.

LaMelo hasn't been on social media like that the last 2 years. Not any more than RJ at least. That's another big hurdle for him, people still have 14 year old LaMelo in mind. Seeing how he fared in Australia he seems way more mature than the kid he was when Lonzo got famous.

Yeah most reports are Melo got over the fame after the Lithuania BS he went through... and we're really going to kill a kid over posting video games in his free time on IG?

[prophet_of_rage]

something about lamelo I want no parts of and you can't convince me otherwise

laVar?

Lavar is a part of it. New York is just so much more then just being good at basketball. I honestly don’t know if he has the mental fortitude to be a star in NY. Seems like he just would get swarmed by media attention and I just want someone focused on basketball.

Also we need a guard that can shoot. And he can’t shoot right now and his jumper is ugly AF.

He sends Frank to the bench?

Seriously, I'm looking at the point guards in this draft and I'm appalled. They aren't good. They are just really nice AAU players. This is a terrible draft. I don't want any parts of winning. Try to get Anthony Edwards, man. He's the only one I see with enough size and burst to be a perimeter star. The rest play like career back ups.

[prophet_of_rage]

Last x amount of champions
Raptors 19 - kawhi / siakam
Warriors 18/17 - Durant / klay
Cavs 16 - lebron / kyrie
Warriors 15 - klay / curry
Spurs 14 - kawhi
Heat 13/12 - lebron / wade/bosh

Wings are what win in this league.

If there’s a chance at Edwards you go for it
Pair Rj/Edwards. And find a pg who can 3 and D efficiently

I hate this logic. For that matter the Blazers should've taken Thompson over Bird because at that point centers won in the league.

Except I’m not saying blindly take any wing

Right now the consensus top 3 is Edwards ball wiseman. All have flaws. All have special abilities.
I’m saying If the prospects are even then I’d lean towards wings cause that’s what you can’t seem to find in free agency. Where as guards are more serviceable and able to come across

If it was a random wing vs wiseman or ball I’d say take one of them because of the value of taking one of them over just randomly taking a wing for the sake of taking one

Superstars are what win in this league. And usually we find those superstars nowadays on the wing because they have a special combination of speed, size and skill that can't be matched or overwhelmed. Curry is really the only exception to that rule. Lebron didn't win until he moved to power forward and as much as you point to Kawhi he had heavy support from Lowry and Van Vleet to win as well as Parker, Manu and Duncan in 14.

Looking at this draft the only ones who have potential to be special are Edwards, Ball and Wiseman. Do not try to win any more, Knicks.

[Fat]

Knicks will pick hometown boy cole Anthony just wait for it lol

[Tron Carter]

Melo could be fun but his shooting is terrible and his defense is worse.

How many times are we going to draft/start players who can't shoot

What did you think of Luka prior to the draft?

Luka was a better shooter then lamelo at every level coming into the draft playing in an even better pro league. They aren’t on the same level at all as prospects.

[TheGreenArrow]

Knicks will pick hometown boy cole Anthony just wait for it lol

Listen im not a cole fan at all but if lamelo,wiseman,edwards are gone id take him over everyone else.

[moocow007]

Knicks will pick hometown boy cole Anthony just wait for it lol

Listen im not a cole fan at all but if lamelo,wiseman,edwards are gone id take him over everyone else.

I would look to trade down at that point and hope someone else likes Cole enough to give you something better. I believe there's a team projected to have a couple late lottery picks. Can't remember which one.