[Camelo Thread Part 21] - Knicks Met With Melo Thursday

czoneny · Post #261 » by **czoneny** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:42 am

adog50 wrote:You guys are Knick fans and want Melo to go to the Mavs? You got to be kidding me.

It would mean keeping Gallo, the Next Larry Bird!

Post #262 » by **Thugger HBC** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:42 am

kane2021 wrote:I feel like im going to start suspending trolls without hesitation.

You might have to. It's getting really out of hand.

dancing dervish · Post #263 » by **dancing dervish** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:42 am

I think there will be some bought out players after the deadline which can be claimed to bolster our team. If Buike can give us some productive minutes we'll be still kinda deep.

Post #264 » by **K_ick_God** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:42 am

Wojina is such a wojina. Our offer beats Beaubois anyway.

I'm not ecstatic but I am okay with this offer:

Felton - Billups -- we lose on this but strategically it is not one that hurts us much short term or long term.

Chandler -- we'd have to lose him anyway but sad to see him go.

Gallo -- the best prospect they're acquiring and given that they only have restricted rights on Chandler, it's not like you can count Chandler at the full value of his talent.

AR or pick -- sweetener, upside but not part of our rotation or plans.

It's a fair offer. Steep yes but fair and it shows Melo that we did do ALL that we could to get him. Now it's up to Melo to put pressure on Denver.

Furthermore, I'd make it clear to Denver that if they go with the Nets offer as the first one, then THIS OFFER IS OFF THE TABLE. They have till the end of the All-Star Game to accept or reject. If they go with the Nets and Melo rejects, our offer will SHRINK.

I think this is a really important strategic part of this offer.

iDunk · Post #265 » by **iDunk** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:42 am

Man, I don't want to give Felton away. You know Felton will be upset about leaving, he had his heart invested in here.

DusterBuster · Post #266 » by **DusterBuster** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:43 am

As for Felton, the kid is clearly getting the D'Antoni bump, his stats will drop back to earth when he's in a regular offense. The Knicks won't have any trouble finding a replacement PG for Felton, and Billups is no scrub in the meantime.

Stop complaining. LOL

adjacent2bench · Post #267 » by **adjacent2bench** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:43 am

For the people who want this deal...explain to me how we're gonna try to get Chris Paul or Deron by trading Utah or N.O any of our players not named Melo or Amar'e??? They're not gonna want our trash...

Because without a third star, we're not even gonna sniff the NBA Finals.

NJ_YANKEE_45 · Post #268 » by **NJ_YANKEE_45** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:43 am

Why are people complaining about what we're offering? Gallo doesn't have much of a future if Melo is here and Chandler was going to be gone anyway. I'm just afraid what the middle ground is.

falcindor · Post #269 » by **falcindor** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:43 am

All I gotta say is Amare is going to look superhuman with a PG who can run pick and roll. Melo is Allan Houston with 10x the confidence. No more jack 30 3pointers this going to be good

god shammgod · Post #270 » by **god shammgod** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:43 am

dancing dervish wrote:I think there will be some bought out players after the deadline which can be claimed to bolster our team. If Buike can give us some productive minutes we'll be still kinda deep.

might be able to trade buike for someone too. his contract is desirable to a team looking to save money.

ibraheim718 · Post #271 » by **ibraheim718** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:43 am

captain subtext wrote:
knicks742 wrote:
NY_Comeback wrote:*Sigh*

I'm over the Chandler/Gallo debate.....I really....REALLY don't want to give up Felton.

That's the main problem for me too. Felton was our backup plan if the CBA makes it impossible to get Paul or WIlliams. Now what?

Brandon Knight or bust. (lol)

Or kendall marshall. I actually like the PG's coming out this year.

Leeroy Jenkins · Post #272 » by **Leeroy Jenkins** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:43 am

Teehee..... Denver doesn't know that Gallo and Chandler can never both put up big numbers on the same night.... teehee

Starksfor3 · Post #273 » by **Starksfor3** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:43 am

iDunk wrote:Man, I don't want to give Felton away. You know Felton will be upset about leaving, he had his heart invested in here.

He only had a two-year contract, I'm sure he knew that it was possible.

DusterBuster · Post #274 » by **DusterBuster** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:44 am

KnicksGod wrote:Wojina is such a wojina. Our offer beats Beaubois anyway.

I'm not ecstatic but I am okay with this offer:

Felton - Billups -- we lose on this but strategically it is not one that hurts us much short term or long term.

Chandler -- we'd have to lose him anyway but sad to see him go.

Gallo -- the best prospect they're acquiring and given that they only have restricted rights on Chandler, it's not like you can count Chandler at the full value of his talent.

AR or pick -- sweetener, upside but not part of our rotation or plans.

It's a fair offer. Steep yes but fair and it shows Melo that we did do ALL that we could to get him. Now it's up to Melo to put pressure on Denver.

Furthermore, I'd make it clear to Denver that if they go with the Nets offer as the first one, then THIS OFFER IS OFF THE TABLE. They have till the end of the All-Star Game to accept or reject. If they go with the Nets and Melo rejects, our offer will SHRINK.

I think this is a really important strategic part of this offer.

Good post. Thank you for being realistic.

god shammgod · Post #275 » by **god shammgod** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:44 am

adjacent2bench wrote:For the people who want this deal...explain to me how we're gonna try to get Chris Paul or Deron by trading Utah or N.O any of our players not named Melo or Amar'e??? They're not gonna want our trash...

Because without a third star, we're not even gonna sniff the NBA Finals.

explain to me how we were gonna trade gallo & felton who both need to be paid next year for cp3 ?

bigfnjoe96 · Post #276 » by **bigfnjoe96** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:45 am

KnicksGod wrote:Furthermore, I'd make it clear to Denver that if they go with the Nets offer as the first one, then THIS OFFER IS OFF THE TABLE. They have till the end of the All-Star Game to accept or reject. If they go with the Nets and Melo rejects, our offer will SHRINK.

I think this is a really important strategic part of this offer.

Totally agree KG. Play yourself if you wanna Ujiri

Knicksrule2k4 · Post #277 » by **Knicksrule2k4** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:45 am

If this deal goes down hopefully we can send Buike somewhere for a C

cgmw · Post #278 » by **cgmw** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:45 am

KnicksGod wrote:Wojina is such a wojina. Our offer beats Beaubois anyway.

I'm not ecstatic but I am okay with this offer:

Felton - Billups -- we lose on this but strategically it is not one that hurts us much short term or long term.

Chandler -- we'd have to lose him anyway but sad to see him go.

Gallo -- the best prospect they're acquiring and given that they only have restricted rights on Chandler, it's not like you can count Chandler at the full value of his talent.

AR or pick -- sweetener, upside but not part of our rotation or plans.

It's a fair offer. Steep yes but fair and it shows Melo that we did do ALL that we could to get him. Now it's up to Melo to put pressure on Denver.

Furthermore, I'd make it clear to Denver that if they go with the Nets offer as the first one, then THIS OFFER IS OFF THE TABLE. They have till the end of the All-Star Game to accept or reject. If they go with the Nets and Melo rejects, our offer will SHRINK.

I think this is a really important strategic part of this offer.

Remember how Daryl Morrey waited to the very last second to fleece Walsh because he knew Walsh had no choice? Well that's what I'm hoping happens here to Denver. I hope we wait to the very last second and swoop in with an offer that allows us to keep Gallo, Fields, and Mozgov.

Post #279 » by **knicks742** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:45 am

DusterBuster wrote:For what it's worth, I'm pulling for you guys to get Melo. It gets him out of the Blazers conference and means the Blazers will likely get Harris from NJ. Not here trolling. I'm just amazed people are this obsessed with freaking Gallinari. He's not THAT good, sorry.

None of the players you guys are trading are even close to All Star level (sorry, just the truth) and you're getting a a HOF player in his PRIME. And 90% of the posters here can stop complaining.... If I were you guys, I'd be partying like crazy right now.

You are missing the point. We had the leverage to keep some of these assets for future moves if Melo had told Nuggets, trade me to NY or I am leaving in free agency. Was that a greedy feeling from us? Yes it was but it was realistic after Denver is seeing what happens to Toronto and Cleveland when they lost their stars in free agency.

Instead that idiot has been talking all week about his extension, therefore removing the Knicks' leverage and now we have to pay more and we have less assets for future trades or having better players to fill out the roster. He had an excellent chance to get his extension, get traded to the KNicks and have some good role players with him and the idiot blew it.

NY_Comeback · Post #280 » by **NY_Comeback** » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:45 am

knickabocker88 wrote:I want every delusional poster to get 2012 out of their brains, it aint happening the world isn't ending and we're not getting no damn All start caliber point guard.

Get ready for 20mpg of Toney Douglas playing a PG thats a loss in it's self.

I feel for Felton, he stood up for his Teammates and Dolan kicks him out town the next day

Seriously. That last point is my whole issue.