Randle's Future

[Nazrmohamed]

The Knicks going 12-2 in January is not an argument to keep Randle. Small sample size. Not proof of concept. No, this doesn't prove he fits. It's called a winning streak. Compatibility can be temporary. (When all players are locked in and playing unselfish.)

Randle went 12-1 with RJ Barrett TWICE. How compatible were they??

Can't tell if you're for or against or being sarcastic. You want him part of this team or not? Cuz all you seemed to show is that we play well with Randle nomatter what group of guys we play with him. And our record since he's been here sortve proves it. I watched him win with Elfrid Peyton, Reggie Bullock, a sophomore RJ and Nerlens Noel. There is no, nor has there ever been a lineup he doesn't fit into. So idk what fit people are talking about.

Well, considering Randle has a 166-164 with the Knicks, I'm not sure what you've proving, considering we've had a 47 and 50 win season with Brunson leading the team these past 2 years.

Randle is a **** fit with so many players...I'm not even sure he would even do the dirty work needed to play on the Olympics team. It's never been an issue with ability for him. Just whether he wants to sacrifice. That's why if anyone asks me to eat crow for Randle again, they're going to have to specify what type of crow they want to serve. "Eat some crow...I told you Randle would be willing to play defense 4 years later! You should have never doubted him...just trade for an All-NBA defender who we need to pay 40 mill a year to, and I promise you he will play defense for 14 games!"

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I think he fits

[Iron Mantis]

Can't tell if you're for or against or being sarcastic. You want him part of this team or not? Cuz all you seemed to show is that we play well with Randle nomatter what group of guys we play with him. And our record since he's been here sortve proves it. I watched him win with Elfrid Peyton, Reggie Bullock, a sophomore RJ and Nerlens Noel. There is no, nor has there ever been a lineup he doesn't fit into. So idk what fit people are talking about.

Well, considering Randle has a 166-164 with the Knicks, I'm not sure what you've proving, considering we've had a 47 and 50 win season with Brunson leading the team these past 2 years.

Randle is a **** fit with so many players...I'm not even sure he would even do the dirty work needed to play on the Olympics team. It's never been an issue with ability for him. Just whether he wants to sacrifice. That's why if anyone asks me to eat crow for Randle again, they're going to have to specify what type of crow they want to serve. "Eat some crow...I told you Randle would be willing to play defense 4 years later! You should have never doubted him...just trade for an All-NBA defender who we need to pay 40 mill a year to, and I promise you he will play defense for 14 games!"

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The post you responded to specifically mentioned Randle's unwillingness to play defense and do the dirty work like hustling and setting screens etc.

And so far his offensive prowess has failed to translate in the playoffs but we are hoping that changes this year.

[StlHawksFan]

Randle gets crap a lot because he takes plays off here and there. But in bulk, his DBPM is 0.0 as a Knick, meaning he is an average defender overall -- and that includes his rough first and third seasons where he actually wasn't playing defense. So, logically, a motivated Randle is potentially a + defender.

[3toheadmelo]

Can't tell if you're for or against or being sarcastic. You want him part of this team or not? Cuz all you seemed to show is that we play well with Randle nomatter what group of guys we play with him. And our record since he's been here sortve proves it. I watched him win with Elfrid Peyton, Reggie Bullock, a sophomore RJ and Nerlens Noel. There is no, nor has there ever been a lineup he doesn't fit into. So idk what fit people are talking about.

Well, considering Randle has a 166-164 with the Knicks, I'm not sure what you've proving, considering we've had a 47 and 50 win season with Brunson leading the team these past 2 years.

Randle is a **** fit with so many players...I'm not even sure he would even do the dirty work needed to play on the Olympics team. It's never been an issue with ability for him. Just whether he wants to sacrifice. That's why if anyone asks me to eat crow for Randle again, they're going to have to specify what type of crow they want to serve. "Eat some crow...I told you Randle would be willing to play defense 4 years later! You should have never doubted him...just trade for an All-NBA defender who we need to pay 40 mill a year to, and I promise you he will play defense for 14 games!"

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The bad fit was RJ.

[Iron Mantis]

Randle gets crap a lot because he takes plays off here and there. But in bulk, his DBPM is 0.0 as a Knick, meaning he is an average defender overall -- and that includes his rough first and third seasons where he actually wasn't playing defense. So, logically, a motivated Randle is potentially a + defender.

But does he want be?

Would love to see consistent effort on that end.

For a big who finds himself hanging around the paint a lot looking for rebounds, you'd like to see him at least get in front of guys driving or try to block a shot or two.

Fun trivia question

Who averaged more blocks per game last season: Julius Randle or Steph Curry?

[rajajackal]

your 1 and 2 options being defensively subpar/par is okay when you have the best wing defending tandem in the league sharing the 3rd option duties and mighty mitchell robinson down low

[Iron Mantis]

your 1 and 2 options being defensively subpar/par is okay when you have the best wing defending tandem in the league sharing the 3rd option duties and mighty mitchell robinson down low

Mitch and OG healthy At the same time?? AND in the playoffs??

Have fun with that....

[rajajackal]

your 1 and 2 options being defensively subpar/par is okay when you have the best wing defending tandem in the league sharing the 3rd option duties and mighty mitchell robinson down low

Mitch and OG healthy At the same time?? AND in the playoffs??

Have fun with that....

i think we have the personnel rn for everyone to play more sustainably. i've been convinced that our new sports medicine hire is meant to counter the thibs effect but i'm not going to pretend that's anything more than an inference on my part

[moocow007]

Well, considering Randle has a 166-164 with the Knicks, I'm not sure what you've proving, considering we've had a 47 and 50 win season with Brunson leading the team these past 2 years.

Randle is a **** fit with so many players...I'm not even sure he would even do the dirty work needed to play on the Olympics team. It's never been an issue with ability for him. Just whether he wants to sacrifice. That's why if anyone asks me to eat crow for Randle again, they're going to have to specify what type of crow they want to serve. "Eat some crow...I told you Randle would be willing to play defense 4 years later! You should have never doubted him...just trade for an All-NBA defender who we need to pay 40 mill a year to, and I promise you he will play defense for 14 games!"

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The bad fit was RJ.

This. The choice between Randle and RJ was crystal clear and yet, much as with so many other things, people kept wanting to make it complicated. And years later we're still at the "why can't Randle lead the Knicks to anything when it was just him and a bunch of misfitting poop, let's get rid of him cause hes crap."

[KnicksGadfly]

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The bad fit was RJ.

This. The choice between Randle and RJ was crystal clear and yet, much as with so many other things, people kept wanting to make it complicated. And years later we're still at the "why can't Randle lead the Knicks to anything when it was just him and a bunch of misfitting poop, let's get rid of him cause hes crap."

Nah...I actually didn't want to bring up Randle's record, but it only started when nazr started spouting fake news about Randle and telling us that Randle's record with the Knicks spoke for itself. So then I looked up Randle's impact on the Knicks and lo and behold, Randle has a 166-164. So, like I said, if you're gonna defend Randle, bring the arguments. Check the facts.

Truth be told, I don't use Randle's record to justify anything. I don't use the booing thing...anyone caught up on that is dumb. I think there's a bigger issue with Randle, that has to do entirely with basketball. I'd just like to summarize some of the points Randle supporters are making in this thread.

Randle can be a good defender...when he's motivated.

This is so damning. We've had a lot of excuses for Randle over the years. We blamed the fans (although I tend to think the fans boo because of poor effort first, and even then, it's so stupid if an athlete stops playing defense over booing). We blamed Randle having a child. Guess we're blaming RJ. Blamed the work load he was taking on. Lots of excuses. What are we making excuses for? Lack of effort. It's extremely frustrating during the regular season. If that happened in the postseason? Man...if Josh Hart was playing 48 minutes and getting triple doubles and OG was hobbling and Brunson came back from injury and Randle was still not doing his best?

We are now a team that wants a championship. We are trying to rely on a guy who can be a good defender...if he's motivated...and apparently, there have only been 2 times in the past 5 years he's been really motivated. Once, when he was in the bubble, fighting for a contract, and the team had drafted his replacement. Once, for a short span of 14 games, when we traded for an all NBA defender who we then had to pay 212 million to.

Let's get back on track and make this thread about motivation. Let's talk about motivation. Leave behind the booing. Leave behind RJ. Leave behind his record, even. Tell me I can have a motivated Randle, right now, for the next few years, and let's get that contract signed. I'll support it wholeheartedly. Or have you all given up on that Randle...the Randle we saw in 2020-2021?

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[NYKnickerbocker]

The bad fit was RJ.

This. The choice between Randle and RJ was crystal clear and yet, much as with so many other things, people kept wanting to make it complicated. And years later we're still at the "why can't Randle lead the Knicks to anything when it was just him and a bunch of misfitting poop, let's get rid of him cause hes crap."

Nah...I actually didn't want to bring up Randle's record, but it only started when nazr started spouting fake news about Randle and telling us that Randle's record with the Knicks spoke for itself. So then I looked up Randle's impact on the Knicks and lo and behold, Randle has a 166-164. So, like I said, if you're gonna defend Randle, bring the arguments. Check the facts.

Truth be told, I don't use Randle's record to justify anything. I don't use the booing thing...anyone caught up on that is dumb. I think there's a bigger issue with Randle, that has to do entirely with basketball. I'd just like to summarize some of the points Randle supporters are making in this thread.

Randle can be a good defender...when he's motivated.

This is so damning. We've had a lot of excuses for Randle over the years. We blamed the fans (although I tend to think the fans boo because of poor effort first, and even then, it's so stupid if an athlete stops playing defense over booing). We blamed Randle having a child. Guess we're blaming RJ. Blamed the work load he was taking on. Lots of excuses. What are we making excuses for? Lack of effort. It's extremely frustrating during the regular season. If that happened in the postseason? Man...if Josh Hart was playing 48 minutes and getting triple doubles and OG was hobbling and Brunson came back from injury and Randle was still not doing his best?

We are now a team that wants a championship. We are trying to rely on a guy who can be a good defender...if he's motivated...and apparently, there have only been 2 times in the past 5 years he's been really motivated. Once, when he was in the bubble, fighting for a contract, and the team had drafted his replacement. Once, for a short span of 14 games, when we traded for an all NBA defender who we then had to pay 212 million to.

Let's get back on track and make this thread about motivation. Let's talk about motivation. Leave behind the booing. Leave behind RJ. Leave behind his record, even. Tell me I can have a motivated Randle, right now, for the next few years, and let's get that contract signed. I'll support it wholeheartedly. Or have you all given up on that Randle...the Randle we saw in 2020-2021?

I mean what was the Knicks record before Randle lolz. 2 games over is probably a massive improvement over whatever previous reign we had. And that’s only gunna get better over the next few years in the Brunson/Randle era

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[god shammgod]

yeah, randle is probably not a fit in the near future...like melo's current pants

[Iron Mantis]

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[Clyde_Style]

Netflix has bought the rights to this thread for a show called Randle's Future

My sources say it is going to be a legal thriller about an NBA player and his fans. The first episode is titled, "The Defense Rests"

[Moose]

Netflix has bought the rights to this thread for a show called Randle's Future

My sources say it is going to be a legal thriller about an NBA player and his fans. The first episode is titled, "The Defense Rests"

As the thread starter, I expect a little kickback.

[Clyde_Style]

Netflix has bought the rights to this thread for a show called Randle's Future

My sources say it is going to be a legal thriller about an NBA player and his fans. The first episode is titled, "The Defense Rests"

As the thread starter, I expect a little kickback.

Line item 85.b(i) of purchase memorandum states:

"OP shall be entitled to gratis three month subscription to Netflix and one Randle's Future paraphernalia item of their choosing."

[Moose]

Netflix has bought the rights to this thread for a show called Randle's Future

My sources say it is going to be a legal thriller about an NBA player and his fans. The first episode is titled, "The Defense Rests"

As the thread starter, I expect a little kickback.

Line item 85.b(i) of purchase memorandum states:

"OP shall be entitled to gratis three month subscription to Netflix and one Randle's Future paraphernalia item of their choosing."

Throw in a pair of mid-tier MSG playoff tickets for each round the Knicks play in over the next three years and you got yourself a deal.

[cgmw]

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The blatant lack of effort is one thing, but it’s the throwing his hands up at the end blaming his own teammates lack of rim protection that really does it for me.