FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread

[dakomish23]

Name 10 better SF's

I mean.... players id rather have at the 3 and build around?

LBJ, KD, Wiggins, Leonard, PG, Harris, Deng.... maybe the two Green's depending on system..... Parsons as well.... I think AI2 could go back to being a solid scorer in a line up that has him as a top 3 option, and if he could i would definitely take him above Melo as well. Pretty much any 2 way player or more versatile player id take over Melo, which is most every semistar to star SF. Im sure theres a few others i forgot on that list.

The pure point thing that Melo does, does not impress me. Im far more impressed with guys like Deng who have tons of playoff experience, are capable of scoring, rebounding, passing, solid defenders, etc. and who ive seen help will their flawed or incredibly injured team into the second round.... which is just so much more then i can say ive seen from Melo. If im trying to win, im going to pick those guys over Melo. Leadership means something, defense means something, all these attributes that Melo seems to be missing make for a better team player then what he is. In terms of offensive skill, sure, Melo can outscore anyone and can be an offensive force.... but the game is deeper then 1v1 scoring games where that is the only thing we are concerned with.
People tend to forget this guy is going on what? 12 years in the league next season? And his highest accomplishment is "hes a good scorer" and some all star appearances? Come on... we can do better than that.

EDIT: Id like to add that i am used to the above reaction by Knicks fans when i criticize their team as anything below blind fandom is amusing to them. But, as often as i get these responses i have yet to be wrong about Melo or the Knicks.

Please show me all the rings you're superstar SF has with another top 5 player and a perennial DPOY candidate behind him, something Melo never even came close to as support. Show me his top notch defense he plays night in night out. Show me all this value he has outside of being "a good scorer" and some all star appearances.

No one here is saying Melo is better than Durant. But your boy is much closer to a Melo type than he is to Lebron type. Always has been.

[Juco24]

I honestly do not completely understand the cap rules, so I'm asking you guys - do we have enough cap room to sign 2 max players if we waive Calderon? Doesn't it matter what the tenure is for the free agent? Again, totally confusing to me.

In any case, I think the #4 pick makes Calderon dead in the water. I'm thinking Mudiaye and then hoping we can find a way to sign some sort of combination in: Deandre Jordan, Aldridge, Gasol or Monroe?

Mudiaye & Galloway is intriguing to me - a backcourt that I believe will be just fine. Melo should be back to himself... I'd be ecstatic with a Jordan/Monroe signing.

[bleedblue3303]

Not even going to pretend to lie that I watched a lot of Suns games. But he's a free agent and gonna come cheap. Wasn't his best year but may play into our favor.

Mudiay
Greene
Melo
Fa
Fa

Is that a bad option?


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[aq_ua]

Not even going to pretend to lie that I watched a lot of Suns games. But he's a free agent and gonna come cheap. Wasn't his best year but may play into our favor.

Mudiay
Greene
Melo
Fa
Fa

Is that a bad option?


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Yes, we went down this path before and it took Shumpert to get rid of it.

[bleedblue3303]

Is Greene a jr? I really know zero about him except when he got drafted.


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[EdgeOf]

Kevin Durant will be a free agent in 2016, this team should at least have the space available to sign him just in case.

2015- 2016 is all about making the playoffs to make sure we give a crap pick to toronto and also to save enough space for Durant's arrival the following season. It's also about the emergence of either Russell or Mudiay

[DowNY]

Please no to Mr. 9 fingers.

[navyblue]

waiving calderon will still count vs cap since he is a guranteed contract. there is the option to stretch waive him which divides his salary over 3 years

[DowNY]

Only type of waive that would work for Calderon would be the "stretch-provision".

[Nyk4lyfe]

Anyone have any idea how much $$$ we save if we stretch Calderon?

If we are drafting a guard anyways, at this point I would use whatever money we save for another free agent, seeing that we also have Galloway.

Starters:
PG: Mudiay
SG: Galloway
SF: Melo
PF: Monroe
C: Lopez

Bench
PG: Mo Williams (whatever remaining money)
SG: Hardaway Jr.
SF: Cleanthony Early
PF: Brandon Bass (mini MLE after all FA signings)
C: Cole Aldrich (vet min)


This lineup is pretty mediocre, but let's be realistic here..... we aren't getting any stars.

it would definitely make playoffs with decent seed but wouldn't be enough to be elite IMO unless Mudiay explodes in his first year somehow.

[semjazy]

Name 10 better SF's

I mean.... players id rather have at the 3 and build around?

LBJ, KD, Wiggins, Leonard, PG, Harris, Deng.... maybe the two Green's depending on system..... Parsons as well.... I think AI2 could go back to being a solid scorer in a line up that has him as a top 3 option, and if he could i would definitely take him above Melo as well. Pretty much any 2 way player or more versatile player id take over Melo, which is most every semistar to star SF. Im sure theres a few others i forgot on that list.

The pure point thing that Melo does, does not impress me. Im far more impressed with guys like Deng who have tons of playoff experience, are capable of scoring, rebounding, passing, solid defenders, etc. and who ive seen help will their flawed or incredibly injured team into the second round.... which is just so much more then i can say ive seen from Melo. If im trying to win, im going to pick those guys over Melo. Leadership means something, defense means something, all these attributes that Melo seems to be missing make for a better team player then what he is. In terms of offensive skill, sure, Melo can outscore anyone and can be an offensive force.... but the game is deeper then 1v1 scoring games where that is the only thing we are concerned with.
People tend to forget this guy is going on what? 12 years in the league next season? And his highest accomplishment is "hes a good scorer" and some all star appearances? Come on... we can do better than that.

EDIT: Id like to add that i am used to the above reaction by Knicks fans when i criticize their team as anything below blind fandom is amusing to them. But, as often as i get these responses i have yet to be wrong about Melo or the Knicks.

Oh, STFU!

I stopped reading after you named Harris and DENG. Really, dawg...? Melo-lite for poor people and washed up role player, who played like garbage for last 2 seasons?

Stop trolling and get back to you're lame ass board and city

[Juco24]

Anyone have any idea how much $$$ we save if we stretch Calderon?

If we are drafting a guard anyways, at this point I would use whatever money we save for another free agent, seeing that we also have Galloway.

Starters:
PG: Mudiay
SG: Galloway
SF: Melo
PF: Monroe
C: Lopez

Bench
PG: Mo Williams (whatever remaining money)
SG: Hardaway Jr.
SF: Cleanthony Early
PF: Brandon Bass (mini MLE after all FA signings)
C: Cole Aldrich (vet min)


This lineup is pretty mediocre, but let's be realistic here..... we aren't getting any stars.

it would definitely make playoffs with decent seed but wouldn't be enough to be elite IMO unless Mudiay explodes in his first year somehow.

AGREE and pretty much what I was wondering

[semjazy]

It seems like the 4th pick is available as per woj and that's why I'm interested in knowing what you guys would be interested in for the 4th pick?

Would a package around lowry+ross be okay? Or would you also require demar in that trade?

Keep your fat PG.

We want Val, your picks this year and our pick back for next year.

I know you're all pissed, but we should try to draft Mudiay (or Porzingis), and mayby he will pan out. I wouldn't trade this pick even for whole Raptors team, with some meaningless picks (Denver would have right to swap our pick, even if we got him back ).


DO NOT TRADE 4TH PICK FOR SOME GARBAGE

[KnicksScholar24]

Waive Galloway for his late season mutiny that cost the Knicks the first overall pick.

[Esq-4]

Now that we know the order, wanted to revisit the NYK/DEN trade. Anything that could be worked a round the ground work of 4 + for Lawson and 7? If Den really wants to move on from Lawson maybe they are willing to take the risk on Muliday (assuming the draft shakes out that way). We fall back a few spots but get a solid point and possibly a guy we wanted at 4 (Winslow/WCS?).

Idk....just trying to maximize the pick while reducing risk.

Let's not be shocked if a "top 3" falls also.

[kej718]

5-Step Plan for New York Knicks to Return to Playoffs in 2015-16
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2455254-6-step-plan-for-new-york-knicks-to-return-to-playoffs-in-2015-16

[dakomish23]

Stretch provision used on any player who has more than one year in their contract extends that contract over 5 seasons. If he has one year left its over 2 seasons. Calderon has 15 mil over two seasons, so it's a 3 mil hit. For instant gratification, we'd save 4 mil in cap space this year.

I think it's the wrong play. You can probably dump him using a pair of 2nds if you have to. Which would ultimately make the Chandler deal just for Larkin Dalembert Ellington. I also think DAL could try to take him back. He played well in that system and next to Monta. If they don't get the big name and are forced to bring him back I won't be surprised.

[AllanH20]

If I see one more **** offer involving the 4th pick and Lowry, I'm going to go crazy. No one wants your 30 year old, fat, chucking point guard Raptor fans. He's had 1.5 good seasons in his entire career, I wouldn't give up a top 20 pick for him.

[Houston99]

how about 4th pick,calderon,and timmy for kemba and lance?

[swisscheeseD]

how about 4th pick,calderon,and timmy for kemba and lance?

Sign me up...that Kemba/Lance backcourt did wonders in Charlotte.