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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#301 » by StlHawksFan » Tue Oct 1, 2024 10:06 pm

Knicks are working on including Duane Washington in the deal to Charlotte. The catch is his European buyout. Draft compensation to Charlotte may be coming from Minny, not NY.

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Post#302 » by Wildcat » Tue Oct 1, 2024 10:12 pm

WargamesX wrote:
Wildcat wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
there is zero chance the knicks bring on ingram...money doesn't work. But NOP really want to move him.


I swear I thought NOP and Cavs were a perfect trading partner between Garland and Ingram. Shocked they didn't really change the formula there.


The rumor was they wanted Allen and Garland for two Wings Spida said no on trading Allen.

We was only a week ago talking about how hard it was to find a back up center for Mitch. Good Centers are not cheap anymore. The splash brother era of every team playing small might be over.


Interesting. I did not hear that. That backcourt just doesn't work. I thought Ingram would be perfect for that team. Ah well, not my problem.
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Post#304 » by Wildcat » Tue Oct 1, 2024 10:49 pm

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This guy is so loud.
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Post#305 » by aggo » Tue Oct 1, 2024 11:18 pm

go get Lauri
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Post#306 » by rajajackal » Tue Oct 1, 2024 11:19 pm

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This guy is so loud.

i pressed play and then pressed pause immediately
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Post#307 » by aggo » Tue Oct 1, 2024 11:20 pm

Go get Bojan
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#308 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Tue Oct 1, 2024 11:31 pm

WargamesX wrote:
Wildcat wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
there is zero chance the knicks bring on ingram...money doesn't work. But NOP really want to move him.


I swear I thought NOP and Cavs were a perfect trading partner between Garland and Ingram. Shocked they didn't really change the formula there.


The rumor was they wanted Allen and Garland for two Wings Spida said no on trading Allen.

We was only a week ago talking about how hard it was to find a back up center for Mitch. Good Centers are not cheap anymore. The splash brother era of every team playing small might be over.

At the moment you have to get past Denver and Boston. So you have to have people to deal with Jokic and KP. You can't get away with 6'9" Precious or whatever. That just doesn't work for either (agreed, different propositions). You need at least someone in the Mitch-zone. People so underestimate Mitch it's unreal.
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Post#309 » by Iron Mantis » Wed Oct 2, 2024 12:01 am

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Iron Mantis wrote:
spree8 wrote:

Man you know Randle ain’t getting traded lol

I don't "know" that .. :lol:

What I do know is they have not offered him a contract extension yet, when they extended Brunson and OG with lightning quickness.

Why?


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Post#310 » by spree8 » Wed Oct 2, 2024 12:15 am

Iron Mantis wrote:
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Iron Mantis wrote:I don't "know" that .. :lol:

What I do know is they have not offered him a contract extension yet, when they extended Brunson and OG with lightning quickness.

Why?


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Post#311 » by NiceLikeChrist » Wed Oct 2, 2024 12:35 am

trey murphy/herb jones rumors are just hilarious. I think the pels have some semblance of a brain in their skulls. don't see anything happening there
NiceLikeChrist wrote:We are going to deeply regret this. We traded away the best player in the trade and still had to give up a great role player AND a pick?

so many people are going to eat their words about randle
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Post#312 » by WargamesX » Wed Oct 2, 2024 1:06 am

NiceLikeChrist wrote:trey murphy/herb jones rumors are just hilarious. I think the pels have some semblance of a brain in their skulls. don't see anything happening there

Are you talking about trading with the knicks or their hopes of making it to the WCF without a defensive center?
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Post#313 » by RHODEY » Wed Oct 2, 2024 1:12 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
Wildcat wrote:
I swear I thought NOP and Cavs were a perfect trading partner between Garland and Ingram. Shocked they didn't really change the formula there.


The rumor was they wanted Allen and Garland for two Wings Spida said no on trading Allen.

We was only a week ago talking about how hard it was to find a back up center for Mitch. Good Centers are not cheap anymore. The splash brother era of every team playing small might be over.

At the moment you have to get past Denver and Boston. So you have to have people to deal with Jokic and KP. You can't get away with 6'9" Precious or whatever. That just doesn't work for either (agreed, different propositions). You need at least someone in the Mitch-zone. People so underestimate Mitch it's unreal.

Denver ain't that team anymore.No depth and no defense. Boston and OKC are our only peers.
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Post#314 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Wed Oct 2, 2024 1:29 am

RHODEY wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
The rumor was they wanted Allen and Garland for two Wings Spida said no on trading Allen.

We was only a week ago talking about how hard it was to find a back up center for Mitch. Good Centers are not cheap anymore. The splash brother era of every team playing small might be over.

At the moment you have to get past Denver and Boston. So you have to have people to deal with Jokic and KP. You can't get away with 6'9" Precious or whatever. That just doesn't work for either (agreed, different propositions). You need at least someone in the Mitch-zone. People so underestimate Mitch it's unreal.

Denver ain't that team anymore.No depth and no defense. Boston and OKC are our only peers.

I think Jokic can find a way. But ok, OKC .. Who guards Chet?
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#316 » by StlHawksFan » Wed Oct 2, 2024 1:35 am

StlHawksFan wrote:Knicks are working on including Duane Washington in the deal to Charlotte. The catch is his European buyout. Draft compensation to Charlotte may be coming from Minny, not NY.

Source: Hollinger


Trade done. Knicks send Charlotte 2 2nds. Minny sends 1. Knicks draft assets are dwindling.

But we did get draft rights to Nnanji.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#317 » by StlHawksFan » Wed Oct 2, 2024 1:43 am

Knicks remaining draft holdings over the next 7 seasons:
Conditional Washington 1st*
2025 Best 2nd of BOS or MEM
2026 Knicks 1st, Worst 2nd of DET, ORL, or MIL
2027 Knicks 2nd, second and third most favorable of OKC, HOU, IND, or MIA 2nds
2028 Worst 1st of NYK or BKN, BOS 2nd, Worst 2nd of IND or PHX
2029 no picks
2030 Knicks 1st
2031 no picks

Tradable assets: 2 first round pick swaps, the Washington pick, and 7 2nd rounders.

*Notes on the Washington pick:
2025 first round draft pick from Washington
Washington's 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; if Washington has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2026, then Washington will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick and 2027 2nd round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) [Houston-Washington, 12/2/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#318 » by Jeffrey » Wed Oct 2, 2024 1:46 am

WargamesX wrote:
NiceLikeChrist wrote:trey murphy/herb jones rumors are just hilarious. I think the pels have some semblance of a brain in their skulls. don't see anything happening there

Are you talking about trading with the knicks or their hopes of making it to the WCF without a defensive center?


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Post#319 » by R-DAWG » Wed Oct 2, 2024 1:53 am

StlHawksFan wrote:Knicks remaining draft holdings over the next 7 seasons:
Conditional Washington 1st*
2025 Best 2nd of BOS or MEM
2026 Knicks 1st, Worst 2nd of DET, ORL, or MIL
2027 Knicks 2nd, second and third most favorable of OKC, HOU, IND, or MIA 2nds
2028 Worst 1st of NYK or BKN, BOS 2nd, Worst 2nd of IND or PHX
2029 no picks
2030 Knicks 1st
2031 no picks

Tradable assets: 2 first round pick swaps, the Washington pick, and 7 2nd rounders.

*Notes on the Washington pick:
2025 first round draft pick from Washington
Washington's 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; if Washington has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2026, then Washington will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick and 2027 2nd round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) [Houston-Washington, 12/2/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]


I’m excited about this team but this draft picks situation isn’t great. The 2nd rd picks are fine - 7 tradable over 7 years, plus the Was pick is likely 2 2nds and each year we pick up another tradable 2nd.

But we essentially have no first to trade until the 2026 draft.

I guess in theory if we need to pivot we can turn Bridges or Anunoby into picks.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#320 » by WargamesX » Wed Oct 2, 2024 2:04 am

R-DAWG wrote:
StlHawksFan wrote:Knicks remaining draft holdings over the next 7 seasons:
Conditional Washington 1st*
2025 Best 2nd of BOS or MEM
2026 Knicks 1st, Worst 2nd of DET, ORL, or MIL
2027 Knicks 2nd, second and third most favorable of OKC, HOU, IND, or MIA 2nds
2028 Worst 1st of NYK or BKN, BOS 2nd, Worst 2nd of IND or PHX
2029 no picks
2030 Knicks 1st
2031 no picks

Tradable assets: 2 first round pick swaps, the Washington pick, and 7 2nd rounders.

*Notes on the Washington pick:
2025 first round draft pick from Washington
Washington's 1st round pick to New York protected for selections 1-10 in 2025 and 1-8 in 2026; if Washington has not conveyed a 1st round pick to New York by 2026, then Washington will instead convey its 2026 2nd round pick and 2027 2nd round pick to New York (via Houston to Oklahoma City) [Houston-Washington, 12/2/2020; Houston-Oklahoma City, 7/30/2021; New York-Oklahoma City, 6/23/2022]


I’m excited about this team but this draft picks situation isn’t great. The 2nd rd picks are fine - 7 tradable over 7 years, plus the Was pick is likely 2 2nds and each year we pick up another tradable 2nd.

But we essentially have no first to trade until the 2026 draft.

I guess in theory if we need to pivot we can turn Bridges or Anunoby into picks.

We can always get draft picks back. Bridges, OG, Kat, Brunson, Hart….. All of them are worth multiple first rounders if we want them. The knicks are going to bevery choosy when they draft because they probably don't want another person Obi situation of them wasting a picks time.


So as a big time draft fan and someone who still thinks we should have tanked the first year Thibs got here to get one more really good bite at the draft apple. For the immediate future, draft picks don't matter, we’ve seen that this FO doesn't like drafting at all and if they do they rather find someone solid in the 20’s than a high level prospects in the lottery. 1st rounders are wasted on them anyway.
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