Breaking: Obi toppin traded to indiana

[strummer]

Why couldn't we just keep him as an asset for a bigger trade?? I don't understand this trade at all.

My absolutely uninformed opinion is they did it as a favor to Obi.

They realized they kind of screwed him over the past few years, really limiting his future earnings, so they found a place that was a good fit. It also kind of explains signing his brother - to smooth it over a bit with the family.

And it wasn't like they were going to get another lottery pick in return after Thibs just ground his value into nothingness. So my complete guess is both parties agreed if a suitable team offered a decent value in return, a move would be made.

Keep in mind the players are human beings, and good organizations need to be sensitive to the people part of the business - if they keep screwing players over they are going to have a hard time attracting quality free agents, negotiating with their current players or being a desired destination for those demanding a trade. And Obi has been a good soldier, always great with the media, a crowd favorite, and always putting a positive face on the franchise; you can't do someone like that raw.

[robillionaire]

I understand saying that after the 2021-22 season but coming off this year I think sounds a bit dissonant.

Randle was good in the regular season. Played poorly in the playoffs again but played through a significant injury that required surgery.

Let's be real.

You’re just being contrarian. Randle is not a good player.

I think it's more reasonable to say that you're being the contrarian here, by calling a guy who averaged 25-10-4, who was an All-Star and who made All-NBA in a winning season "not a good player".

I'm not a Randle fan but y'all always take it too far.

Players that make 2 all-star teams and 2 all-nba teams are good players. The contrarians are this hipster fanbase that thinks everyone we draft is a hall of famer being held back by (whatever) and that actual good established multi-time all-star players are bad because it's not cool to like like them

[K_ick_God]

Being good in reg season and bottoming out come playoffs, bringing nothing in terms of D or work = not a good player

[3toheadmelo]

no worries we got the better brother

Read on Twitter

[robillionaire]

Why couldn't we just keep him as an asset for a bigger trade?? I don't understand this trade at all.

My absolutely uninformed opinion is they did it as a favor to Obi.

They realized they kind of screwed him over the past few years, really limiting his future earnings, so they found a place that was a good fit. It also kind of explains signing his brother - to smooth it over a bit with the family.

And it wasn't like they were going to get another lottery pick in return after Thibs just ground his value into nothingness. So my complete guess is both parties agreed if a suitable team offered a decent value in return, a move would be made.

Keep in mind the players are human beings, and good organizations need to be sensitive to the people part of the business - if they keep screwing players over they are going to have a hard time attracting quality free agents, negotiating with their current players or being a desired destination for those demanding a trade.

Nobody screwed him over. He is bad. You'll find out soon enough.

[Juggynaut]

The truth is Obi's value is 2 2nd round picks. Nobody is going to give up a 1st round pick for a backup PF entering a contract year.

And I don't think the Knicks want to pay him after this season.

[knicksNOTslick]

Randle is a starting energy-destroying big

… who stands around watching the ball …

unless he is dribbling it in place or in a wild maneuver.

I understand saying that after the 2021-22 season but coming off this year I think sounds a bit dissonant.

Randle was good in the regular season. Played poorly in the playoffs again but played through a significant injury that required surgery.

Let's be real.

You’re just being contrarian. Randle is not a good player.

So we give Randle a 3rd shot at the playoffs? And when he sucks again, what will the excuse be this time?

[Adelheid]

honestly, i didnt think they would trade obi because they signed his brother

or was the signing a "sorry obi, we screwed up with you so as an apology we are going to sign and pay your bro, as a favor"

remains to be seen if jakob sees playing time but it would be hilarious if he fares better than his older brother

[Oscirus]

it was a contract year trade. Knicks didnt want to deal with that headache so they sent it away

[KnicksGadfly]

I was already skeptical of Obi's archetype when we drafted him. He was basically a no defense playing PF who relies on athleticism. We were basically depending on him to be Blake Griffin or STAT, if we wanted him to provide strong value. Heck, or even Randle now. That, and the nepotism links with Leon Rose and his draft day highlight video, which was basically him talking about how awesome his dunks were.

What I'll miss with Obi is that athleticism. Those fast breaks were fun, especially cause guys would just toss up the ball and look to him, and you'd know he'd finish it.

Still, I think the best version of Obi is the one who knew how to play defense and rebound. Eventually, Randle even overtook him as a floor spacer. I think he's gonna have a great opportunity in Indiana, especially because there's Myles Turner stretching the floor and Tyrese as the floor general, but those two guys would also be able to maximize almost anyone on the roster, including RJ and Randle. Sucks we got a low return, and sucks that we didn't draft Tyrese.

[Chanel Bomber]

I was already skeptical of Obi's archetype when we drafted him. He was basically a no defense playing PF who relies on athleticism. We were basically depending on him to be Blake Griffin or STAT, if we wanted him to provide strong value. Heck, or even Randle now. That, and the nepotism links with Leon Rose and his draft day highlight video, which was basically him talking about how awesome his dunks were.

What I'll miss with Obi is that athleticism. Those fast breaks were fun, especially cause guys would just toss up the ball and look to him, and you'd know he'd finish it.

Still, I think the best version of Obi is the one who knew how to play defense and rebound. Eventually, Randle even overtook him as a floor spacer. I think he's gonna have a great opportunity in Indiana, especially because there's Myles Turner stretching the floor and Tyrese as the floor general, but those two guys would also be able to maximize almost anyone on the roster, including RJ and Randle. Sucks we got a low return, and sucks that we didn't draft Tyrese.

Yeah.

I said it when we drafted him and unfortunately I think it still holds true:

He's a 5 who can't defend or protect the rim, or a 4 who doesn't space the floor (though his 3P% did improve). He's positionless in the worst possible way.

His archetype is just outdated if you're looking for a starter. He's a great backup though, and we'll miss his easy points off the bench.

Drafting Obi over Hali was the worst mistake of this FO.

[K_ick_God]

I understand saying that after the 2021-22 season but coming off this year I think sounds a bit dissonant.

Randle was good in the regular season. Played poorly in the playoffs again but played through a significant injury that required surgery.

Let's be real.

You’re just being contrarian. Randle is not a good player.

So we give Randle a 3rd shot at the playoffs? And when he sucks again, what will the excuse be this time?

Seems no end to it. Can’t see him being a good third piece even if we get other major guys. He can’t play off the ball and will never be good on D.

[Richard4444]

Nobody is going to give up a 1st round pick for a backup PF entering a contract year.

.

We gave a first for Reddish...

[Juggynaut]

Nobody is going to give up a 1st round pick for a backup PF entering a contract year.

.

We gave a first for Reddish...

He wasn't in a contract year + the trade was terrible for us + he has more positional value as his potential was a SF that can defend (most valuable position in the NBA). Obi is a back up energy PF that plays poor defense + inconsistent 3 point shooter. He's not that valuable in the NBA.

[Spot31]

So long you sky flying bum.

[will]

Dumbass deal for the Knicks.

Great deal for Indy.

Obi running the wing with Mathurin, Haliburton and Bruce Brown should be entertaining.

[MrDollarBills]

If this dude does anywhere near as well as the numbers he put up as a starter here, this is gonna be a disgusting trade.

The sample size is small, but i wouldn't have traded this guy for 2 second rounders.

20/5/3 70%TS

[knicksNOTslick]

If this dude does anywhere near as well as the numbers he put up as a starter here, this is gonna be a disgusting trade.

The sample size is small, but i wouldn't have traded this guy for 2 second rounders.

20/5/3 70%TS

Agreed. It was a classic Knicks move of not maximizing the assets they have. The time to deal Obi was the moment he showed some promise a year ago when he did well in Randle's absence at the end of the year. We should've dealt Obi and probably could have gotten a late 1st rounder. Now we settle for 2 2nds a year too late.

The Knicks hold on to players too long. We would have held on to KP too long as well if he hadn't demanded a trade.

[Oscirus]

If this dude does anywhere near as well as the numbers he put up as a starter here, this is gonna be a disgusting trade.

The sample size is small, but i wouldn't have traded this guy for 2 second rounders.

20/5/3 70%TS

shouldnt have but he was never gonna get enough time to maximize his talent. Julius is a tank and obi was never gonna put him on the bench for more than a couple of quarters. Not a fan of what we got back, but he absolutely had to be traded.

[DOT]

If this dude does anywhere near as well as the numbers he put up as a starter here, this is gonna be a disgusting trade.

The sample size is small, but i wouldn't have traded this guy for 2 second rounders.

20/5/3 70%TS

Even if you regress his 3pt shooting to his career bench average, it's still 18 ppg on 60% TS.