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Re: PG: Knicks @ Detroit- Game 3-Proud of my Knicks! 

Post#341 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:19 pm

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Thibs didn't do anything revolutionary this game. Players just played better/smarter.

offense was sharp to start - felt like practice paid off or they had some scripted plays to start. virtually every shot was wide open in rhythm.


Sure, but they were moving with purpose and energy and looking to move the ball. Scheme wise, we didn't do anything different. We just executed it better.

In fact, when Duren was on KAT, we still didn't run many PnRs with KAT and Brunson, but it didn't matter really because we were doing other things well.

So yes, I agree that practicing probably helped, but the players mainly just played with more focus.

I remember Harden’s Houston teams spamming the pick and roll to a point that the game of basketball wasn’t worth watching anymore. This team should at least use it some more.
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Re: PG: Knicks @ Detroit- Game 3-Proud of my Knicks! 

Post#342 » by GONYK » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:22 pm

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kNicksGmen wrote:offense was sharp to start - felt like practice paid off or they had some scripted plays to start. virtually every shot was wide open in rhythm.


Sure, but they were moving with purpose and energy and looking to move the ball. Scheme wise, we didn't do anything different. We just executed it better.

In fact, when Duren was on KAT, we still didn't run many PnRs with KAT and Brunson, but it didn't matter really because we were doing other things well.

So yes, I agree that practicing probably helped, but the players mainly just played with more focus.

I remember Harden’s Houston teams spamming the pick and roll to a point that the game of basketball wasn’t worth watching anymore. This team should at least use it some more.


I was screaming at the TV for them to run it as soon as I saw Duren on KAT, but they started running a lot of pindowns and horns sets instead that were generating open 3's, so I couldn't be too mad, but the PnR's would have been much easier to execute.

To be fair though, KAT is not a good screener.
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Post#343 » by The Vo Show » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:23 pm

Not sure if it was talked about in the thread already but I really like OG on Schroder and Mikal on Cade when the Pistons run both of them on the court at the same time. OG really blankets Schroder and makes him really look like a backup PG instead of a starting caliber PG.

Meanwhile, Mikal's defense on Cade is pretty good even though Cade seemingly scores on him all the time. Mikal contests really well, denies really well and can poke at the ball on postups, but his problem (like most defenders on Cade) is he lets Cade get to the spots he wants.

The plays where these matchups happened resulted in Schroder having to pass the ball to Harris or Beasley with like 10 seconds on the clock.

I also like hiding Brunson on Harris. I feel like Brunson guarding Harris on the post is a situation the Knicks can turn into a positive for them on defense. Maybe just run a second defender once Harris begins to dribble ala what they used to do to Randle.
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Re: PG: Knicks @ Detroit- Game 3-Proud of my Knicks! 

Post#344 » by LFGK » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:24 pm

Yup 2 days off and then balls to the wall, get a stranglehold of this series and close it out in 5. Boston is banged up they can be got
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Post#345 » by LFGK » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:27 pm

The Vo Show wrote:Not sure if it was talked about in the thread already but I really like OG on Schroder and Mikal on Cade when the Pistons run both of them on the court at the same time. OG really blankets Schroder and makes him really look like a backup PG instead of a starting caliber PG.

Meanwhile, Mikal's defense on Cade is pretty good even though Cade seemingly scores on him all the time. Mikal contests really well, denies really well and can poke at the ball on postups, but his problem (like most defenders on Cade) is he lets Cade get to the spots he wants.

The plays where these matchups happened resulted in Schroder having to pass the ball to Harris or Beasley with like 10 seconds on the clock.

I also like hiding Brunson on Harris. I feel like Brunson guarding Harris on the post is a situation the Knicks can turn into a positive for them on defense. Maybe just run a second defender once Harris begins to dribble ala what they used to do to Randle.


Once that idiot Harris gets his third fouls early game 4 it's over, they have no depth. I do like OG on the little German midget for parts of the game as well but when he's on Cade he just blankets him, 31% he's shooting with OG on him.
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Post#346 » by Context » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:30 pm

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Enzo954 wrote:How close to a disaster was this inbounds play with 5.8 seconds left in the game? Was it a backcourt violation? I think we got lucky because that could have easily gone against us.

So what's the right play here? Throwing the ball into the backcourt, hoping JB can run down the clock and, if fouled, sink two free throws? Or passing to a wide-open OG under the basket for an easy two—which would likely leave a few seconds on the clock, but put us up by five? I personally think Bridges should have passed it to OG for the easy 2.

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Well damn, didn’t even notice that.. good catch. Mikal botched that one big time. Hart should be the one making those passes

Thats what I thought :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: PG: Knicks @ Detroit- Game 3-Proud of my Knicks! 

Post#347 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:30 pm

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Sure, but they were moving with purpose and energy and looking to move the ball. Scheme wise, we didn't do anything different. We just executed it better.

In fact, when Duren was on KAT, we still didn't run many PnRs with KAT and Brunson, but it didn't matter really because we were doing other things well.

So yes, I agree that practicing probably helped, but the players mainly just played with more focus.

I remember Harden’s Houston teams spamming the pick and roll to a point that the game of basketball wasn’t worth watching anymore. This team should at least use it some more.


I was screaming at the TV for them to run it as soon as I saw Duren on KAT, but they started running a lot of pindowns and horns sets instead that were generating open 3's, so I couldn't be too mad, but the PnR's would have been much easier to execute.

To be fair though, KAT is not a good screener.

I agree but the quality of his screens really shouldn’t matter too much. He is a pro. Despite having as many total assists as a team in the first half as in the first two games altogether, Brunson and Towns still scored and attempted way too much in one on one situations. All our guys move well without the ball, you’ve got to capitalize on that. Btw, this is particularly why I firmly believe in tremendous growth from within next year. I don’t need to see many trades.
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Post#348 » by K_ick_God » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:43 pm

One thing we could use is an athletic slashing big or SF. Duren. I haven’t noticed his defense but I guess it’s nothing special.
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Post#349 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:45 pm

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These dudes are disrespectful but they failed to secure their home court so maybe they should focus more on hooping instead of being fake tough. The only one of them that's crazy enough to really do something is Stewart and he's out.

I think we need to come out in Game 4 looking to run them out of the building


they will blow detroit out game 4, took THJR heroics where he was all time hot to keep em in the game(and that french midget to an extent) but like how all things even out he turned back into himself in the second half and sucked. Thats why hes been shipped time and time again, screw Tim Hardaway too, bald head midget. They did a good job on Cade 10/25, imagine if Brunson had a game like the best player( :lol: ) in this series just did. Knicks in 5


french? i thought he was a german midget...LOL


Schroder is German :lol:
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Post#350 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:47 pm

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KAT 10-18
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Better distribution of FGA - especially when it's to an all NBA offensive stud & especially in crunch time - seems like it should be obvious. But I worry they will not have learned this lesson and Thibs will go back to the SMB offense

We should win in 6 if Thibs doesn't revert back to old ways.... Big if sadly.


Thibs didn't do anything revolutionary this game. Players just played better/smarter.


I will give everyone from the staff to the players credit for recognizing that they need to play as a team.

Keep that ball popping and then in crunch time, let the Captain go to work
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Post#351 » by K_ick_God » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:49 pm

I never thought Dennis or even Timmy was as bad as people thought, and Tobias isn’t bad. He did nothing last night.

These guys are all about even in today’s NBA. A guy like Brunson just somehow has an extra gear.

Towns is by far the the most talented player on either roster. Not even close.
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Post#354 » by LFGK » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:53 pm

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they will blow detroit out game 4, took THJR heroics where he was all time hot to keep em in the game(and that french midget to an extent) but like how all things even out he turned back into himself in the second half and sucked. Thats why hes been shipped time and time again, screw Tim Hardaway too, bald head midget. They did a good job on Cade 10/25, imagine if Brunson had a game like the best player( :lol: ) in this series just did. Knicks in 5


french? i thought he was a german midget...LOL


Schroder is German :lol:


i know i know it was addressed earlier lol idk why i said french. Prob cause I was eating a crossiant at the time
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Post#355 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:53 pm

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dakomish23 wrote:That KAT post up turnaround fadeaway to the baseline with 3 mins left that made it 108-101 was the bucket of the game. Then he followed it up with the huge block on Tobias.

He's been the best Knick this series even with his crappy game 2.


Agreed. If it was up to me he'd be taking 22+ shots every game. He literally can score in every imaginable way and his touch is really really good. If I had any say in how the team plays I'd make sure that KAT really is put into position to score 30 every night. He absolutely has the tools to do it and really the coaching staff has no excuse there...


Whether it is the nightly result or not, the intention going into every game should be to make KAT the high scorer on the team followed by anyone named Jalen, OG or Mikal.

KAT is the purest scorer on the team with the most natural scoring ability.

Brunson is a brilliant scorer who crafted himself into Captain Clutch, but KAT is the one whose natural scoring gifts should always be utilized without fail.
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Post#356 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:56 pm

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Post#357 » by Capn'O » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:57 pm

I should add, Brunson is looking more like himself. Which is awesome.
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Post#359 » by K_ick_God » Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:01 pm

Capn'O wrote:I should add, Brunson is looking more like himself. Which is awesome.


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Post#360 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:02 pm

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Sure, but they were moving with purpose and energy and looking to move the ball. Scheme wise, we didn't do anything different. We just executed it better.

In fact, when Duren was on KAT, we still didn't run many PnRs with KAT and Brunson, but it didn't matter really because we were doing other things well.

So yes, I agree that practicing probably helped, but the players mainly just played with more focus.

I remember Harden’s Houston teams spamming the pick and roll to a point that the game of basketball wasn’t worth watching anymore. This team should at least use it some more.


I was screaming at the TV for them to run it as soon as I saw Duren on KAT, but they started running a lot of pindowns and horns sets instead that were generating open 3's, so I couldn't be too mad, but the PnR's would have been much easier to execute.

To be fair though, KAT is not a good screener.


Other than when his back is to the basket during roll-offs or deep post-ups, KAT is best utilized facing the rim from anywhere outside the paint.

It increases the odds he'll find an open man or cutter with his passing skills.

Most screens should be set by other guys on the floor even though KAT will need to set some himself regardless.

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