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2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go

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Pick one

Obi Toppin
12
12%
Tyrese Maxey
4
4%
Isaac Okoro
9
9%
Killian Hayes
33
33%
Aaron Nesmith
4
4%
RJ Hampton
2
2%
Kira Lewis
25
25%
Patrick Williams
2
2%
Devin Vassell
3
3%
Other
5
5%
 
Total votes: 99

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#381 » by YungKnicks » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:47 am

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We really may be moving up for Obi Lmaoo


that's not an actual source

Yup...LOL we at Knicks realgm are smarter than that. Why are some of you all sharing everyone's tweets like it's a source.

Im about to put crazy hearsay on Twitter right now and act like a source! LMAOOOOO

Tweet "I hear Timberwolves are looking to move James Johnson contract willing to part with the #17 pick to do so. Knicks are interested"

LMAOOOOO :lol:
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#382 » by YungKnicks » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:52 am

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Juco24 wrote:On regards to that ESPN mock.... they had Lewis to the Celtics @ 14... remember the rumor how they want Okongwu.? If this mock is somewhat correct, Knicks should trade back with the Celtics


If we got something something back extra nice in addition to no. 14. What would you expect back? Donn't the Celtics have a lot of extra picks? Or would you ask for a player?


I'd want Romeo Langford & 14 and 26.... and I wouldn't cry to much about #26 but Romeo + Lewis is not bad at all. Romeo showed potential in limited action and is young.

I would want all their picks 14th, 26th, 30th + Romeo Langford
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#383 » by YungKnicks » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:54 am

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LOL...that's right going no where :lol:
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#384 » by knickstape4ever » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:56 am

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rochester NY kid. I can buy they like him...NY kid, tough as hell, garden would love him and his physicality.

Not sure he's particularly skilled though.


wings>>>bigs

I like Stewart but prioritize multi-positional players who can shoot. I'd take Woodard at 27 before Stewart

he can easily be a small ball center, making him a multi positional player.

outside is important but a good scoring threat inside opens up for more open threes.

his 77 ft% could give hope of him developing a mid range game.


I agree his best fit is as a small ball-C but if Randle is on the team next year, that's his best role. Same for if they sign Wood. less minutes to go around for Stewart than for a multi positional player like Bane or Woodard who can knock down 3's which IMO is the biggest need
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#385 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:53 am

I'm not digging Stewart.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#386 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:55 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:I'm not digging Stewart.


they do bar mitzvahs though
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#387 » by jermsknicks » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:14 am

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Are you willing to commit to FVV for the next 4 years? At what price? If it's set up before the draft, then do you think it effects our draft strategy?

No sir, because I believe our guy could be Maxey.

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#388 » by jermsknicks » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:15 am

YungKnicks wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
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LOL...that's right going no where :lol:


We going to be up already and he going to seal it with a steal.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#389 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:39 am

jermsknicks wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
HerSports85 wrote:
Read on Twitter


Are you willing to commit to FVV for the next 4 years? At what price? If it's set up before the draft, then do you think it effects our draft strategy?

No sir, because I believe our guy could be Maxey.

In Craig Cartons voice while saying Met fans for Yankees...."Pipeline for Kentucky"


Maxey? At 8?
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#390 » by jermsknicks » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:59 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
jermsknicks wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Are you willing to commit to FVV for the next 4 years? At what price? If it's set up before the draft, then do you think it effects our draft strategy?

No sir, because I believe our guy could be Maxey.

In Craig Cartons voice while saying Met fans for Yankees...."Pipeline for Kentucky"


Maxey? At 8?


Where do you see Maxey going?

Just one of those guys I believe will find it easier to score in the NBA and would be a nice fit for the Knicks. I can see him averaging 18 and 5 in the league.
- Relentless attacker w/ quick 1st step.
- Has range.
- Good team player.
- Can throw the lob.
- Good defender.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#391 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:36 am

jermsknicks wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
jermsknicks wrote:No sir, because I believe our guy could be Maxey.

In Craig Cartons voice while saying Met fans for Yankees...."Pipeline for Kentucky"


Maxey? At 8?


Where do you see Maxey going?

Just one of those guys I believe will find it easier to score in the NBA and would be a nice fit for the Knicks. I can see him averaging 18 and 5 in the league.
- Relentless attacker w/ quick 1st step.
- Has range.
- Good team player.
- Can throw the lob.
- Good defender.


From what I've been reading, in the mid-teens. I like Saddiq Bey better in that range.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#392 » by denterprise » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:51 am

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denterprise wrote:We have no idea what the current front office is looking for, but we do know there is a lot of smoke and deception. Could the Knicks be interested in Deni Avdija? There is a chance he could slip to 8, so we should not dismiss the idea that he may be the player they select if the guards they have an interest in are not available. In this draft, I would not hold it against the Knicks if they stayed put and not give up any assets. With luck and a lot of skill, we could come away with one of the better players in this draft.


What scenario do you see Deni slipping to 8? I haven't seen one legitimate mock where this is even a possibility.


I have seen him as high as 2 and low as 7, the projections change every day. After the third pick, any of the projected top players could land from 4 to the end of the lottery. Staying where we are we could select any one of them who could turn out to be one of the top players in this year's draft. They could also turn out to be the biggest bust also, so I would not like to give up assets to move up.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#393 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:54 am

denterprise wrote:
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denterprise wrote:We have no idea what the current front office is looking for, but we do know there is a lot of smoke and deception. Could the Knicks be interested in Deni Avdija? There is a chance he could slip to 8, so we should not dismiss the idea that he may be the player they select if the guards they have an interest in are not available. In this draft, I would not hold it against the Knicks if they stayed put and not give up any assets. With luck and a lot of skill, we could come away with one of the better players in this draft.


What scenario do you see Deni slipping to 8? I haven't seen one legitimate mock where this is even a possibility.


I have seen him as high as 2 and low as 7, the projections change every day. After the third pick, any of the projected top players could land from 4 to the end of the lottery. Staying where we are we could select any one of them who could turn out to be one of the top players in this year's draft. They could also turn out to be the biggest bust also, so I would not like to give up assets to move up.


I heard one draft analyst claim that Deni's poor FT suggests that he will not be a good 3-point shooter in the NBA. This analyst (I can't remember who or which podcast I listened to) strongly correlated poor FT shooting % with poor 3-point shooting %.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#394 » by SelbyCobra » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:07 am

With regards to Wiggins, I can't see any NBA team already picking in the top-10 taking him on merely to move up. That's a $95M commitment to an inefficient, ball-dominant player the Warriors actively do not want. You're not paying almost a hundred million to pick swap.

A deal for Wiggins at this point would only be palatable if it brings in the #2 pick while not sacrificing any high-value present-day draft capital. You're effectively looking to purchase the #2 overall pick in a top-weak draft for $95M in the right scenario. I'm not even sure it's worth it at that point - whomever you select would HAVE to hit BIG to make it even come close to making sense.
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Post#395 » by stuporman » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:10 am

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#396 » by Reign23 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:25 pm

Traveyknicks23 wrote:Halliburton hell no

Obi toppin hell no

Devin vassal absoutely not

are you the little kid that booed when we picked KP?
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Post#397 » by Juco24 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:34 pm

If GS really thinks they have a shot @ Giannis... they may need to trade the #2 & Wiggins. Just because I'm bored - GS wants a big, right? Wonder would they swap picks with us JUST for taking Wiggins salary and they still could probably select Okongwu (who'd also save them money #8 vs #2). One could only hope.
FVV/Frank
Ant/Dots
Mitch/Stewart
RJ/Wiggins
Randle/Knox

And all of our future picks. 2020 has been a crazy crazy year. Anything can happen right? Lol
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#398 » by NewYorkPride85 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:49 pm

Juco24 wrote:If GS really thinks they have a shot @ Giannis... they may need to trade the #2 & Wiggins. Just because I'm bored - GS wants a big, right? Wonder would they swap picks with us JUST for taking Wiggins salary and they still could probably select Okongwu (who'd also save them money #8 vs #2). One could only hope.
FVV/Frank
Ant/Dots
Mitch/Stewart
RJ/Wiggins
Randle/Knox

And all of our future picks. 2020 has been a crazy crazy year. Anything can happen right? Lol


You want to spend about $90+ million to move up from 8 to 2? That’s essentially what you are saying. I’m sorry but we are spending that kind of bread and giving you a shot at signing Giannis, then I’m expecting a hell of a lot more. That money is dead weight on a player whole doesn’t perform anywhere close to his salary.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#399 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:54 pm

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rochester NY kid. I can buy they like him...NY kid, tough as hell, garden would love him and his physicality.

Not sure he's particularly skilled though.


wings>>>bigs

I like Stewart but prioritize multi-positional players who can shoot. I'd take Woodard at 27 before Stewart


Repeating something I've said within the last week or so.

Why is it that EVERY time, in ANY mock draft, when the Knicks have an extra first rounder or still have their 2nd rounder, the mock ALWAYS ties them to some mediocre big?

I swear the guys who do the mocks try to find the worst player/fit and then put that next to the Knicks name.

Yeah, the Knicks need a non shooting, throw back big in the WORST way. :noway:
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread 13: One week to go 

Post#400 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:03 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:With regards to Wiggins, I can't see any NBA team already picking in the top-10 taking him on merely to move up. That's a $95M commitment to an inefficient, ball-dominant player the Warriors actively do not want. You're not paying almost a hundred million to pick swap.

A deal for Wiggins at this point would only be palatable if it brings in the #2 pick while not sacrificing any high-value present-day draft capital. You're effectively looking to purchase the #2 overall pick in a top-weak draft for $95M in the right scenario. I'm not even sure it's worth it at that point - whomever you select would HAVE to hit BIG to make it even come close to making sense.


That's tying up half their cap flexibility (roughly) for 3 years, so agreed, in that scenario, no other stuff going out, they'd have to think the player is big time.

Feel like the Warriors will be able to foist Wiggins on some fringe playoff team that is capped out anyway, but has that player expiring on bigger contract, or works out 3 way deal.

Should be interesting. The one year the Knicks have ample cap space to make things happen, so do at least 5 other teams.
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