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Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) V - Elfrid Payton Sucks

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Re: Rumors and Discussion Thread (NYK and NBA) V - Elfrid Payton Sucks 

Post#381 » by BugginOut » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:19 am

SelbyCobra wrote:
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SelbyCobra wrote:
I agree it's a lot, and in excess of "fair". But Ingram is 23 and put up 24/6/4 last year on 46/39/85 shooting, so he's one of the bright young stars in the league.

And I totally disagree with the Pelicans not wanting him. What makes you think that?

He's good, but if the Pelicans wanted him why even wait to max him? Fox got his max, Tatum got his max. It seems for some reason the Pelicans constantly disrespect BI.

I'd want him on our team in a second, but I'm not trading the farm for him for one good season in a contract year.


NOP is probably waiting to see if someone makes him an offer - outside teams can only offer 4 years, the incumbent team can offer 5. If Ingram gets a max offer from someone else, NOP can just match it and save a year on their offer.

That's the point, if he is your guy why even lowball him, just give him the full max. Sixers didn't wait to max it Ben, Utah didn't wait to max Mitchell. You get my drift?

If he's your guy shouldn't you make him happy and give him what he rightfully deserved this season?
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Post#382 » by Chanel Bomber » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:19 am

Just a reminder that the common denominator between Phil Jackson, Steve Mills, Scott Perry and Leon Rose is the man who hired them, James Dolan.

The Knicks will never win a championship under Dolan because of how easy it is to con him.
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Post#383 » by N Y K » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:20 am

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FutureKnicksGM wrote:Can we throw Bol Bol a 4 year $12 million deal and see if DEN matches?

For fun?

Yep - Mitch Vs Bol will be the next Frank Vs DSJ

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Post#384 » by knickstape4ever » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:20 am

Chanel Bomber wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:can we just skip to the draft?

What makes you so confident we'll still have our picks


please don't depress me....our picks and our youth are all I have left

seriously tho, I highly doubt they'd move their 2021 1st + I dont see any stars worth that pick becoming available (Booker is staying in Phoenix now w/ CP3, KAT is staying w/ Wolves; they improved, Donovan is gonna sign the max, and Beal ain't worth it, you need a 2nd star w/ him)
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Post#385 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:21 am

KnicksGod wrote:They got Wannamaker for less than half what we gave Elf. No good.


But...but...but...but...but...but...but...but...but...but...but...but...but...but...but...but...but...but...but...but...but...but...but... the Elf deal is only for 1 year! And he won't be starting! Maybe!
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Post#386 » by TheGreenArrow » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:22 am

This is insane man!!!!!
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Post#387 » by K_ick_God » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:22 am

Trading back and forth on those picks now looks suspicious and random too.
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Post#388 » by SelbyCobra » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:22 am

BugginOut wrote:
SelbyCobra wrote:
BugginOut wrote:He's good, but if the Pelicans wanted him why even wait to max him? Fox got his max, Tatum got his max. It seems for some reason the Pelicans constantly disrespect BI.

I'd want him on our team in a second, but I'm not trading the farm for him for one good season in a contract year.


NOP is probably waiting to see if someone makes him an offer - outside teams can only offer 4 years, the incumbent team can offer 5. If Ingram gets a max offer from someone else, NOP can just match it and save a year on their offer.

That's the point, if he is your guy why even lowball him, just give him the full max. Sixers didn't wait to max it Ben, Utah didn't wait to max Mitchell. You get my drift?

If he's your guy shouldn't you make him happy and give him what he rightfully deserved this season?


I think it'd just be pure business to try and be as lean as possible on salary (I was stunned at Swipa's extension, but I guess SAC has to do that). What's your offer to see if Griffin is willing to sell on him?
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Post#389 » by and13 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:22 am

I bet they're negotiating a s&t for Ingram as we speak.
It doesn't make sense otherwise that there aren't any offers for him 2 days into FA.
Also the Knicks movement has been weird AF. Something is happening.
Let's hope it works out.
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Post#390 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:24 am

and13 wrote:I bet they're negotiating a s&t for Ingram as we speak.
It doesn't make sense otherwise that there aren't any offers for him 2 days into FA.
Also the Knicks movement has been weird AF. Something is happening.
Let's hope it works out.


Yeah, it's called Leon and WWW are in over their heads as executives.
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Post#391 » by Worst_to_First » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:24 am

TheGreenArrow wrote:Good organizations make smart moves......

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Perfect fit for them.


Celtics saw Tristan Thompson owning Al Horford for years.
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Post#392 » by K_ick_God » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:25 am

TheGreenArrow wrote:This is insane man!!!!!


lol
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Post#393 » by K_ick_God » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:26 am

You know when things started going seriously wrong? Al Harrington.
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Post#394 » by Br00kLyn » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:26 am

Sorry if this has been asked but what is Anthony Davis waiting for to re-sign with the Lakers?
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Post#395 » by Juggynaut » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:26 am

U guys realize Wannamaker probably wants to play for a contender right?
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Post#396 » by Chanel Bomber » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:26 am

KnicksGod wrote:Trading into and out of and back into the consolidation of picks now looks suspicious too.

Leon Rose is not a basketball savant. He's a former agent who conned Dolan into believing that he would deliver where previous POBOs failed: bring stars to MSG thanks to his connections like Pelinka did in LA (except the Lakers have LeBron James to make roster decisions and we have Scott Perry).

The Knicks will not be patient with Mitch or RJ. They'll be gone if they struggle early. Leon Rose will not hold on to all those picks, unless they get the first pick in the draft (again, star power).

He will make a nice cocktail and package them for stars.

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Post#397 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:26 am

Here's my scoop:

I'm working on a post so insanely offensive, yet funny, it'll melt your eyes and I'll be permabanned. I just need a few hours. Or an extension.
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Post#398 » by and13 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:27 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
and13 wrote:I bet they're negotiating a s&t for Ingram as we speak.
It doesn't make sense otherwise that there aren't any offers for him 2 days into FA.
Also the Knicks movement has been weird AF. Something is happening.
Let's hope it works out.


Yeah, it's called Leon and WWW are in over their heads as executives.

Ok but Griffin isn't. The Ingram situation isn't normal.
Something is going on.
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Post#399 » by Knox » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:28 am

and13 wrote:I bet they're negotiating a s&t for Ingram as we speak.
It doesn't make sense otherwise that there aren't any offers for him 2 days into FA.
Also the Knicks movement has been weird AF. Something is happening.
Let's hope it works out.


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