Knicks officially welcome Iman Shumpert

omerome · Post #41 » by **omerome** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:00 pm

moocow007 wrote:
Crazyknicks wrote:It's encouraging to see this franchise begin to put emphasis on defense. Regardless of how the pick turns out, at least we're moving in the right direction ...

"Iman's ability lines up with what we want to do and are trying to do." - Coach D'Anton

Reference to defense by D'antoni?

First day of practice...

D'Antoni to Iman: "Chuck and duck, Iman! CHUCK AND DUCK!!!!!"

LET'S GO! LET'S GO! GO! GO! GO!

thisiskoz · Post #42 » by **thisiskoz** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:05 pm

StephNYKurry wrote:
BelieveTheDream wrote:I just watcheed a video with his strengths and weaknesses...I get it hes a great defender I see he is quick with the ball which is good but on weaknesses itt was his deecision making on the jumpers he takes and He takes a lot of bad shots falling back and step backs and everythign which is why his % are so bad....If he cuts that out and becomes a PG and just shoots when he is open I could see him becoming a nice pickup for us but only time will tell

And this is why it helps if you watch college basketball instead of just watching the prospects individually. His team and coach was sorry for his entire career. He took bad shots on a bad team. Could they possibly have been better? Possibly. But those shots were taken because there was no one else to take them. Same things were said about Stephen Curry when he came out. His shot selection sucked because his team sucked.

I think Iman will relish his role not having to play the star role.

this... the guy took almost a quarter of his entire teams shots last year... averaging 14 shots a game... hes not going to have to carry that type of load here... not even close... again... he may be a 'poor volume scorer'... but we dont need another volume scorer on this team... we just need a guy who can hit his open looks... and shumpert has that ability despite perhaps lacking the ability to create for himself... hes also a guy who can get out on the break and finish... an offensive aspect we dont really have at the moment that is becoming more and more important the way the style of the league is moving ala rose, westbrook, rondo, etc...

and i too think iman will be happy not having to do everything... the guy led his team in points rebounds assists and steals last year...

Gregory151 · Post #43 » by **Gregory151** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:06 pm

Jay10 · Post #44 » by **Jay10** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:09 pm

moocow007 wrote:
Crazyknicks wrote:It's encouraging to see this franchise begin to put emphasis on defense. Regardless of how the pick turns out, at least we're moving in the right direction ...

"Iman's ability lines up with what we want to do and are trying to do." - Coach D'Anton

Reference to defense by D'antoni?

First day of practice...

D'Antoni to Iman: "Chuck and duck, Iman! CHUCK AND DUCK!!!!!"

Let's Go, Let's Goooo.... Come on Baby!!! :lol:

ITGM · Post #45 » by **ITGM** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:13 pm

Knicks1214 wrote:
I watched Shumpert a lot (being a Duke and Vandy fan, I watch the SEC and ACC a lot)...people who don't like him now will like him once they watch him.

Do you see Wade potential in him?

blueNorange · Post #46 » by **blueNorange** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:16 pm

you can work on your jumper, you can't work on your defense

NYman15 · Post #47 » by **NYman15** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:17 pm

The kid sounds awesome. Love everything he said in the chat and love that he's a gym rat. Him and TD will be at the gym every day. I'm excited for the kid. has a ton of potential and sounds ready to work.

sol537 · Post #48 » by **sol537** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:18 pm

this kid's going to be the steal of the draft IMO. can't wait until he makes the haters on here eat some crow.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #49 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:20 pm

ITGM wrote:
Knicks1214 wrote:
I watched Shumpert a lot (being a Duke and Vandy fan, I watch the SEC and ACC a lot)...people who don't like him now will like him once they watch him.

Do you see Wade potential in him?

Eh...I mean, if he reaches his absolute full potential (which I doubt is going to happen because it rarely happens with any player), then I guess...but I wouldn't put any money on it happening.

Wade has a higher BBIQ, he has the "it" factor that can will his team to win (see his Marquette run and his play during the '04 finals), and he has better vision.

This pick has very little downside IMO. Even if he doesn't develop a jumper (which he will improve...he has nice form on his shot and just needs more reps), he's going to be a force on the defensive end, will be a good slasher, and is still a great athlete. It was a good pick and he'll fit in nicely IMO.

BelieveTheDream · Post #50 » by **BelieveTheDream** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:23 pm

echelonNYK wrote:
BelieveTheDream wrote:Who'd you want?

knowing we needed a guy with size who could run the floor and has potential Dontas MOntejunas was sitting for the picking and this kid has a ton of talent and in our system would of been a great fit for us, we could of taken a PG in late first early 2nd like a Charelss Jenkins/Norris cole/Reggie Jackson etc etc and we could of filled 2 needs...Ive been a huge fan of dontas for a while and I thgouth we had no shot of getting him and to see him available and us not take him really sucked

Dude, Dontas is 7 feet 215. Playing center is more than just height.[/quote]
He is stilll only 20 years old the guy is going to grow more and fill into his body and add weight....

Knick Swisher · Post #51 » by **Knick Swisher** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:26 pm

NYman15 wrote:Thats exactly what you want to here. Especially saying he developed a pride to make sure know one would score on him. You gotta love that.

Knick Swisher · Post #52 » by **Knick Swisher** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:27 pm

Crazyknicks wrote:It's encouraging to see this franchise begin to put emphasis on defense. Regardless of how the pick turns out, at least we're moving in the right direction ...

"Iman's ability lines up with what we want to do and are trying to do." - Coach D'Anton

Reference to defense by D'antoni?

I'll believe it when I see a defensive assistant hired

Gregory151 wrote:Amareisreal Amar'e Stoudemire
@i_am_iman wish i was there today 2 welcome you 2 the the Team. Im here in the Chi for my @nikebasketball skills academy. See you soon! STAT

Gotta love STAT

Knick Swisher · Post #53 » by **Knick Swisher** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:28 pm

god shammgod wrote:
Gregory151 wrote:
Crazyknicks wrote:It's encouraging to see this franchise begin to put emphasis on defense. Regardless of how the pick turns out, at least we're moving in the right direction ...

"Iman's ability lines up with what we want to do and are trying to do." - Coach D'Anton

Reference to defense by D'antoni?

i agree.. I read in an article yesterday (i forgot which one) that Amare called up the front office and told them we need to focus on defense this offseason.. I was glad to read that because our stars have to lead that charge on the court..

now someone from the front office call amare and tell him the same thing.

NoMoreThrees · Post #54 » by **NoMoreThrees** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:43 pm

Jay10 wrote:how tall is mike d'antoni?

6 foot 4 I guess if Shumperts is 6 foot 6

truth serum · Post #55 » by **truth serum** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:54 pm

I'm really liking this kid. Not a big college b-ball guy so I usually don't know much about the players in any draft until I start reading up on them and watching mixes on youtube every june lol. As for Iman, I didn't even give him that much. Didn't expect the Knicks to take him and didn't know jack about his game. That being said, after doing some homework since last night....I love his game, his potential, his fit for this team and his demeanor. One of the things that stand out to me is the way he speaks and carries himself. Seems very mature and very intelligent. Lots of confidence too. For a guy with his talent, those characteristics are key in trying to translate that on the floor. Having guys like Melo, Amar'e and especially Chauncey around to push him and teach him will only accelerate that process. I think this was a really good pick for the Knicks especially considering who was left on the board. I think we got lucky here. Only time will tell though...

Jay10 · Post #56 » by **Jay10** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:01 pm

tommydee seems to be on the verge of crying if he didn't already, because the knicks didn't pick chris singleton with the 17th pick.

:lol:

NYMNYKFN10 · Post #57 » by **NYMNYKFN10** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:03 pm

blueNorange wrote:you can work on your jumper, you can't work on your defense

If that's true, this team is never winning a championship because Melo and Amare dont currently play defense.

Jay10 · Post #58 » by **Jay10** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:10 pm

NYMNYKFN10 wrote:
blueNorange wrote:you can work on your jumper, you can't work on your defense

If that's true, this team is never winning a championship because Melo and Amare dont currently play defense.

individual defense and team defense are 2 different things

lnvincibl · Post #59 » by **lnvincibl** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:11 pm

How many times did Shumpert come in to work out for us? Was he in that 2nd chance last minute workout we had?

Jay10 · Post #60 » by **Jay10** » Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:15 pm

lnvincibl wrote:How many times did Shumpert come in to work out for us? Was he in that 2nd chance last minute workout we had?

not that i can recall. after the 2nd workout, it was reported that they told him to shut it down so they could draft him.