Amar'e going back to college

[SonOfMars]

In before some joke regarding whether hes gonna be taught defense/rebounding...


oh...wait...

[Knicks_Fan2]

I suppose I don't really have a problem with him doing this, assuming he's training as well.

That said, I really do wonder if STAT is really aware of the vociferous criticisms of his game from around the league.

He talks such a big game for someone that struggled so much last year and, at this point, it's just annoying. He's so deluded in thinking he's a superstar that I'm afraid it effects his willingness to accept his limitations and focus on things that will help the team--including defense, rebounding, and scoring on the move as opposed to the awful isos we see every game.

Maybe I'm being unreasonable, maybe it was just an anomolous year, and I truly believe he does want to win and loves his teammates. But I just sense that he as a tremendous lack of self awareness and hope it doesn't cause us additional harm.

Who commissions "The Amare Minute"!!!!???

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVY98y8z6Cs[/youtube]

[GONYK]

Man, some of you guys have a personal vendetta against Amare.

[Pharmcat]

What a weird comeback pharmcat. So, basically you're saying, yeah he's a loser in the basketball educational department, so what does it matter if he goes and learns something else? Oooookayyyyyy kimosave

i wasnt trying at a comeback

I just dont understand the criticizm he is getting

unless some has proof that he will be in class 24/7 and have 0 time for the gym, this is a non story

people go to class and gym each day, its no biggie

[Bran Fast Hands]

This is better than seeing him doing all that fashion bull like last offseason.

[Clyde_Style]

Man, some of you guys have a personal vendetta against Amare.

No. $55,000 a day. That is what he is being paid. I'm being completely objective. He doesn't have the capacity to learn multiple things at once. I have no reason to have faith at this point he can do both. That is not a vendetta. It is as basic as knowing you should wait for the green light to drive. You can stop defending him or taking everything so personally as if we hate him. We do not. I still kind of like him. But I no longer really respect him.

And I have no basis to believe he is committed to re-tooling his game which is desperately needed. As a fan, you must want that too. Because if you don't, then I would be confused as to your rabid defense of him all season long. I would assume you believe he can come back stronger and perform at a high level again.

Your conviction this is possible is greater than mine, but nontheless if that is what you believe then you might have to be ice-cold too and face it that Amar'e has shown little inclination to re-tool his game.

So, at his price tag and because of what it means to this franchise, I'm going to be an ice-cold fan and bust his chops for anything that is a deviation from 100% focus on his craft. Yes, enrolling in Etruscan Pottery Analysis is just that. He is not focused. He has proven it. He has admitted he doesn't understand anything except Nash-fed PnR. So what is he going to do about it?

Anything less a totally obsessive effort on his part to re-educate his ballgame is unacceptable to me now. You may not agree, but that's my point of view.

[Pharmcat]

Man, some of you guys have a personal vendetta against Amare.

pretty much

making a big deal out of small stories
or taking quotes out of context to bash melo

different tactics, same motivation

[GONYK]

Man, some of you guys have a personal vendetta against Amare.

No. $55,000 a day. That is what he is being paid. I'm being completely objective. He doesn't have the capacity to learn multiple things at once. I have no reason to have faith at this point he can do both. That is not a vendetta. It is as basic as knowing you should wait for the green light to drive. You can stop defending him or taking everything so personally as if we hate him. We do not. I still kind of like him. But I no longer really respect him.

That just seems personal to me.

I don't see how him being in class from 12-2 three days a week prevents him from working out, and hopefully learning a post game, but hey, like you said, we have different views on the guy

[johnnywishbone]

Man, some of you guys have a personal vendetta against Amare.

No. $55,000 a day. That is what he is being paid. I'm being completely objective. He doesn't have the capacity to learn multiple things at once. I have no reason to have faith at this point he can do both. That is not a vendetta. It is as basic as knowing you should wait for the green light to drive. You can stop defending him or taking everything so personally as if we hate him. We do not. I still kind of like him. But I no longer really respect him.

And I have no basis to believe he is committed to re-tooling his game which is desperately needed. As a fan, you must want that too. Because if you don't, then I would be confused as to your rabid defense of him all season long. I would assume you believe he can come back stronger and perform at a high level again.

Your conviction this is possible is greater than mine, but nontheless if that is what you believe then you might have to be ice-cold too and face it that Amar'e has shown little inclination to re-tool his game.

So, at his price tag and because of what it means to this franchise, I'm going to be an ice-cold fan and bust his chops for anything that is a deviation from 100% focus on his craft. Yes, enrolling in Etruscan Pottery Analysis is just that. He is not focused. He has proven it. He has admitted he doesn't understand anything except Nash-fed PnR. So what is he going to do about it?

Anything less a totally obsessive effort on his part to re-educate his ballgame is unacceptable to me now. You may not agree, but that's my point of view.

This is the latest example of you taking something that is your subjective opinion and presenting it as fact.

Going to school along with working out and working on his basketball game is a good way for him to become a more rounded person which only make him a better basketball player.

You are acting like he is out getting wasted and **** hookers.

[dpgcdr]

maybe we should just give him a break, he posted again on Twitter that he lost another buddy of his to cancer.

[Thugger HBC]

What's wrong about Amare going to school?

[Clyde_Style]

Man, some of you guys have a personal vendetta against Amare.

No. $55,000 a day. That is what he is being paid. I'm being completely objective. He doesn't have the capacity to learn multiple things at once. I have no reason to have faith at this point he can do both. That is not a vendetta. It is as basic as knowing you should wait for the green light to drive. You can stop defending him or taking everything so personally as if we hate him. We do not. I still kind of like him. But I no longer really respect him.

That just seems personal to me.

I don't see how him being in class from 12-2 three days a week prevents him from working out, and hopefully learning a post game, but hey, like you said, we have different views on the guy

Yeah, that's why I'm saying you don't need to defend him, because some of us have a different take on his level of commitment and capacity or desire to learn. Because some of us have what I believe is a firm basis for believing he is not as serious as he should be we will be more inclined to interpret how he uses his off-season from that viewpoint, whereas others will say what's the big deal? it's his time off.

But I'm saying it is not his time off. Sure, he should take a nice vacation, but off-season is work, just without the grueling schedule which allows for healing. But it is not time off or summer camp. He is paid $55,000 a day 365 days a year and he needs to be a complete professional which IMO he is not. He is a slacker on the level of skills improvement, he talks out of both sides of his mouth about things he or the team should do that he does not and I see no historical basis for anyone to claim he is as serious as other highly paid players about his craft.

So I will be more critical than others, but please don't be offended by it. I just will not cut him any slack, because I don't think he deserves any.

[NyKnicks1714]

I don't see how him being in class from 12-2 three days a week prevents him from working out, and hopefully learning a post game, but hey, like you said, we have different views on the guy

Going to class for 0 hours a day, 0 hours a week already prevents him from learning a post game, learning how to play defense, learning how to rebound. Maybe people are upset that he's spending time taking a basically meaningless course or two and not spending time working on things that he should be working on.

[GONYK]

What's wrong about Amare going to school?

He can't learn two things at once apparently. It's either a post game or an intro into sports journalism. Not both.

[NBA Fan 1234]

What's wrong about Amare going to school?

Nothing.

[Clyde_Style]

Man, some of you guys have a personal vendetta against Amare.

No. $55,000 a day. That is what he is being paid. I'm being completely objective. He doesn't have the capacity to learn multiple things at once. I have no reason to have faith at this point he can do both. That is not a vendetta. It is as basic as knowing you should wait for the green light to drive. You can stop defending him or taking everything so personally as if we hate him. We do not. I still kind of like him. But I no longer really respect him.

And I have no basis to believe he is committed to re-tooling his game which is desperately needed. As a fan, you must want that too. Because if you don't, then I would be confused as to your rabid defense of him all season long. I would assume you believe he can come back stronger and perform at a high level again.

Your conviction this is possible is greater than mine, but nontheless if that is what you believe then you might have to be ice-cold too and face it that Amar'e has shown little inclination to re-tool his game.

So, at his price tag and because of what it means to this franchise, I'm going to be an ice-cold fan and bust his chops for anything that is a deviation from 100% focus on his craft. Yes, enrolling in Etruscan Pottery Analysis is just that. He is not focused. He has proven it. He has admitted he doesn't understand anything except Nash-fed PnR. So what is he going to do about it?

Anything less a totally obsessive effort on his part to re-educate his ballgame is unacceptable to me now. You may not agree, but that's my point of view.

This is the latest example of you taking something that is your subjective opinion and presenting it as fact.

Going to school along with working out and working on his basketball game is a good way for him to become a more rounded person which only make him a better basketball player.

You are acting like he is out getting wasted and **** hookers.

you happened to bold my text which I think is (from my viewpoint) a fairly objective truth. In other words, I know it is still my subjective opinion, but can anyone here make a legitimate case that Amar'e has the desire to learn new basketball skills or the capacity to learn multiple things at one time during an off-season when he needs focus to re-tool his game? Can you make a case for his ability to do this? Because I cannot see any evidence that would support such a point of view. Therefore, I was saying all evidence points to his inability to juggle agendas and give his focus to learning just basketball, which I believe you can objectively say he has not done to date.

[DocZaius]

wow are people actually killing Amare about this??

[Clyde_Style]

What's wrong about Amare going to school?

He can't learn two things at once apparently. It's either a post game or an intro into sports journalism. Not both.

Let's put it this way. If he comes back and has not added to his skillset, will you in hindsight be able to say he could not juggle school and basketball or he doesn't care or he is incapable of expanding his game?

You can defend him a priori now or later however it suits you, but until I see the proof in the first month of next season, I will assume he is still the same complacent, overpaid player he has proven himself to be thus far.

And that is the difference for now. You think he is all about the team evidently and can juggle whatever pleases him whereas I believe he is a self-absorbed, delusional guy who is not grounded in reality who is not likely to come back prepared to play differently and with skills more attuned to his aging body.

What I find surprising is how much goodwill there still is for him and how offended so many fans still are when people give Amare the business. Its kind of touching, but I don't buy it.

[GONYK]

I don't see how him being in class from 12-2 three days a week prevents him from working out, and hopefully learning a post game, but hey, like you said, we have different views on the guy

Going to class for 0 hours a day, 0 hours a week already prevents him from learning a post game, learning how to play defense, learning how to rebound. Maybe people are upset that he's spending time taking a basically meaningless course or two and not spending time working on things that he should be working on.

Do you really think thats how players operate? In the offseason they do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING but play basketball 16 hours a day, with 8 hours of sleep until training camp starts?

Amare has plenty of time to work on his game. Cmon. He was in Israel learning about his Jewish roots before he had the best season of his career for us.

[Thugger HBC]

Amare will have plenty of time to work on his game, and if he doesn't....he doesn't.

But ripping him for going back to school in the off-season? Ridiculous.