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Newyorknick94 · Post #41 » by **Newyorknick94** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 5:46 pm

stuporman · Post #42 » by **stuporman** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 5:51 pm

K P 6 wrote:
stuporman wrote:
GEOLINK wrote:Him and Iverson can finally reunite.

Iverson, Harrington and Melo..... their team moto will be 'Not enough balls to go around'

It’s a shame his lack of defense and ability to play within a modern system will be his doom. He’s a legend in the era before this one tho.

He was one of the most gifted and versatile offensive forwards in the game, he could have fit into any system but his problem is between the ears. For whatever reason his presence was a cancer to any team and it had nothing to do with being liked by his teammates because he was liked. He's such a cancer that even his stans who show up to defend him are cancers. :lol:

ChaosHamster · Post #43 » by **ChaosHamster** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 6:01 pm

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MaseInYourFace · Post #44 » by **MaseInYourFace** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 6:39 pm

Was firing Hoiberg justified?

1999 · Post #45 » by **1999** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 7:30 pm

MaseInYourFace wrote:Was firing Hoiberg justified?

Yes, it goes beyond this season. Hoiberg just is not a good coach. Similar to Jeff Hornacek. They decided to cut bait now rather than have him continue to influence the young guys while they prep for the upcoming draft.

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Dr. Detfink · Post #46 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 8:41 pm

The Bulls are doing it right. They're properly de-constructing the coaching staff and clearing the decks in preparation of drafting the guy that they're going to rebuild around.

The Knicks are NOT sure, they are making KP the centerpiece of their franchise. It's this amalgam of contradicting ideas: Let's rebuild. Wait, sign Count Chuckaway Jr. Let's develop Frank Ntilikina as a priority. Trade for Mudiay. Let's develop Mitchell Robinson. Start Enes Kanter. Let's develop Kevin Knox and Dotson. Let's sign and start Hezonja.

F N 11 · Post #47 » by **F N 11** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 8:54 pm

1999 wrote:
MaseInYourFace wrote:Was firing Hoiberg justified?

Yes, it goes beyond this season. Hoiberg just is not a good coach. Similar to Jeff Hornacek. They decided to cut bait now rather than have him continue to influence the young guys while they prep for the upcoming draft.

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Bulls like 3 seasons too late lol

BKlutch · Post #48 » by **BKlutch** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 8:59 pm

stuporman wrote:
K P 6 wrote:
stuporman wrote:
Iverson, Harrington and Melo..... their team moto will be 'Not enough balls to go around'

It’s a shame his lack of defense and ability to play within a modern system will be his doom. He’s a legend in the era before this one tho.

He was one of the most gifted and versatile offensive forwards in the game, he could have fit into any system but his problem is between the ears. For whatever reason his presence was a cancer to any team and it had nothing to do with being liked by his teammates because he was liked. He's such a cancer that even his stans who show up to defend him are cancers.

Melo metastasized?

1999 · Post #49 » by **1999** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 9:07 pm

Dr. Detfink wrote:The Bulls are doing it right. They're properly de-constructing the coaching staff and clearing the decks in preparation of drafting the guy that they're going to rebuild around.

The Knicks are NOT sure, they are making KP the centerpiece of their franchise. It's this amalgam of contradicting ideas: Let's rebuild. Wait, sign Count Chuckaway Jr. Let's develop Frank Ntilikina as a priority. Trade for Mudiay. Let's develop Mitchell Robinson. Start Enes Kanter. Let's develop Kevin Knox and Dotson. Let's sign and start Hezonja.

You have a few points but I don’t think there is necessarily a “right” way. If there was, how would that account for teams like the Kings being perpetually bad despite lottery pick after pick? Good management/ownership is more of a variable in the success of a team despite where they pick. Take the Jazz for example. That is such a well run franchise and they are rarely amongst the NBA’s worst teams. As for the Knicks, Mudiay was worth the gamble for what we gave up. If you want to use the pg situation as an example than that would apply to Trey. It’s clear that nobody is really sure what Frank is yet. That’s more on Frank than it is the coach. Mitch gets all the minutes he can handle at this point. He cannot play without fouling at a high rate, but he’s getting minutes. Knox it’s entirely too early to tell being he was injured. But Knox will get every opportunity to start before the season is finished.

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Dr. Detfink · Post #50 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 9:25 pm

1999 wrote:
You have a few points but I don’t think there is necessarily a “right” way. If there was, how would that account for teams like the Kings being perpetually bad despite lottery pick after pick? Good management/ownership is more of a variable in the success of a team despite where they pick. Take the Jazz for example. That is such a well run franchise and they are rarely amongst the NBA’s worst teams. As for the Knicks, Mudiay was worth the gamble for what we gave up. If you want to use the pg situation as an example than that would apply to Trey. It’s clear that nobody is really sure what Frank is yet. That’s more on Frank than it is the coach. Mitch gets all the minutes he can handle at this point. He cannot play without fouling at a high rate, but he’s getting minutes. Knox it’s entirely too early to tell being he was injured. But Knox will get every opportunity to start before the season is finished.

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Similar to the Knicks, the Kings have sabotaged themselves many times. Outside of the 2018 NBA draft, the last time the Kings have drafted in top 3 was 1991, Billy Owens.

Look at their draft history, they've drafted better than the Knicks. WAY better.

Post #51 » by **Capn'O** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 10:16 pm

Guys and gals - I have some important news: The Jim Boylan that now coaches the Bulls is different from the Jim Boylan that used to coach the Bulls. Use this information wisely.

RHODEY · Post #52 » by **RHODEY** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 11:52 pm

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KnicksGadfly · Post #53 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 12:50 am

Bulls screwed up. There's a problem with that team and it starts with Garpax. Maybe their useless owner, but can't do much about that.

3toheadmelo · Post #54 » by **3toheadmelo** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 3:32 am

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21 Hussle · Post #55 » by **21 Hussle** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 5:06 am

No way the Suns get Zion now... they don’t deserve it after this name choice. I don’t care if it’s for one night

HarthorneWingo · Post #56 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 7:07 am

Good breakdown of Celts problems on offense

https://youtu.be/iVtU4NmOLwU

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aq_ua · Post #57 » by **aq_ua** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 10:12 am

stuporman wrote:
K P 6 wrote:
stuporman wrote:
Iverson, Harrington and Melo..... their team moto will be 'Not enough balls to go around'

It’s a shame his lack of defense and ability to play within a modern system will be his doom. He’s a legend in the era before this one tho.

He was one of the most gifted and versatile offensive forwards in the game, he could have fit into any system but his problem is between the ears. For whatever reason his presence was a cancer to any team and it had nothing to do with being liked by his teammates because he was liked. He's such a cancer that even his stans who show up to defend him are cancers.

He was a strange one, because he was originally a defensive stopper with no offense with the Pacers. Then he kept working on his offensive game and turned into the exact opposite.

aq_ua · Post #58 » by **aq_ua** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 10:15 am

Capn'O wrote:Guys and gals - I have some important news: The Jim Boylan that now coaches the Bulls is different from the Jim Boylan that used to coach the Bulls. Use this information wisely.

That would be because this Jim Boylen is Jim Boylen and not Jim Boylan?

GEOLINK · Post #59 » by **GEOLINK** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 11:10 am

aq_ua wrote:
Capn'O wrote:Guys and gals - I have some important news: The Jim Boylan that now coaches the Bulls is different from the Jim Boylan that used to coach the Bulls. Use this information wisely.

That would be because this Jim Boylen is Jim Boylen and not Jim Boylan?

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Post #60 » by **dakomish23** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 2:28 pm

Anthony Davis has become the best big man defender in the NBA now that’s he playing C.

Last night, when he was off the floor, NOP def rtg was 190 :lol:

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