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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#41 » by Wildcat » Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:44 pm

DOT wrote:Randle is clearly the odd man out here

But at the same time, he could potentially fit really well

So obviously they're in a wait-and-see approach with him. If it works, we'll figure something out. If it doesn't, he's the first to go.


Saying he's the odd man out sounds rather presumptuous.
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Post#42 » by Iron Mantis » Wed Sep 25, 2024 8:53 pm

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That's your best response to a pointed and simple question?

You could have just sat this one out, lil buddy. :lol:


Oh, you wound me, sir. I just wanted to meme in peace, but you have besmirched my honor, so en garde.

You are not right, nor are wrong, for we know little of the closed door negotiations. There are finite reasons why a deal hasn't been inked that's left up to speculation. But when compared to other players in this very situation, i.e., Brandon Ingram, who has skipped the "volunteer" mini-camp for obvious reasons (stir the boat), I see no signs that a breakup in imminent. That disgruntled factor just isn't there.

On the other hand, we don't see anything similar happening on the Randle/Knicks front. He signed with CBA earlier in the year, Thibs has spoken about how he's going to use Randle, Randle voicing excitement with playing with this version of the Knicks, this school opening, and while speculation on my part, I'd bet money that MSG had something to do with the production of the Randle video and/or series.

Ian and/or Katz reported earlier in the Summer that despite the eligibility (some people keep thinking it's a deadline), neither side are in a rush to ink a new deal, which suggests to me that it's an inevitability. CA loves him, Leon loves him, Dolan loves him, his teammates love him. With the information available to us, a deal gets done. The why doesn't manner.


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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#43 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:27 pm

Wildcat wrote:
Iron Mantis wrote:
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That's your best response to a pointed and simple question?

You could have just sat this one out, lil buddy. :lol:


Oh, you wound me, sir. I just wanted to meme in peace, but you have besmirched my honor, so en garde.

You are not right, nor are wrong, for we know little of the closed door negotiations. There are finite reasons why a deal hasn't been inked that's left up to speculation. But when compared to other players in this very situation, i.e., Brandon Ingram, who has skipped the "volunteer" mini-camp for obvious reasons (stir the boat), I see no signs that a breakup in imminent. That disgruntled factor just isn't there.

On the other hand, we don't see anything similar happening on the Randle/Knicks front. He signed with CBA earlier in the year, Thibs has spoken about how he's going to use Randle, Randle voicing excitement with playing with this version of the Knicks, this school opening, and while speculation on my part, I'd bet money that MSG had something to do with the production of the Randle video and/or series.

Ian and/or Katz reported earlier in the Summer that despite the eligibility (some people keep thinking it's a deadline), neither side are in a rush to ink a new deal, which suggests to me that it's an inevitability. CA loves him, Leon loves him, Dolan loves him, his teammates love him. With the information available to us, a deal gets done. The why doesn't manner.

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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#44 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Wed Sep 25, 2024 9:59 pm

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StlHawksFan wrote:I think it's pretty clear the Knicks are not going to make a trade. They inquired about Kessler and Richards and apparently the asking prices were too high. They're going to give Sims a shot and then just see where it goes from there. I think we can all assume Mitch will be out until January -- 31 games. The opponents featuring a team where size at the 5 will matter (not necessarily meaning we'll lose) are:
Cavs Oct28
@Rockets Nov4
Bucks Nov8
@Sixers Nov 12
@Nuggets Nov25
@Mavs Nov27
@Hornets Nov29
Magic Dec3
Hornets Dec5
Pistons Dec7
@Raptors Dec9
@Wolves Dec19
Raptors Dec23
Spurs Dec25
@Magic Dec27

Suppose we go 6-9 in those 15 games. And by contrast we go 12-4 in the other 16 games. That takes us into January with a record of 18-13 with 51 games remaining. Plenty of time to still win 50 (32-19 is very doable -- Knicks were 29-17 before Randle went down last year).

Is it worth trading our only assets to maybe win 3 more games in November & December?


I’m really only worried about maybe 5 of those games. Cavs, bucks, 76ers, nuggets, and maybe the spurs. I think precious will match up with rim runners and sengun just fine. Sengun is awesome but he doesn’t have the size of Embiid, Lopez, or Joker. Cavs bigs are good be neither of them are really post threats and we might be able to run the Cavs out of the gym. Wemby is just so much taller than everyone else but I’m curious if you can under him like guys used to do against KP. So it should be survivable.

Robinson injured. 6‘7 Randle post-shoulder surgery. Sims barely an NBA player. OG more injury prone than Kawhi. And y‘all not worried :lol: I mean, I like Achiuwa too, but come on!

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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#45 » by Iron Mantis » Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:16 pm

Long-winded verbal acrobatics are fatiguing. All fluff.

They could have extended him already. They didn't.

Let's just cut to the heart of the matter in one simple truth: until there's news of a deal, Randle's future here is uncertain.

They may never offer him the type of money that he's looking for. We have to see.
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Post#46 » by thebuzzardman » Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:17 pm

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Post#47 » by Wildcat » Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:32 pm

Iron Mantis wrote:
Wildcat wrote:
Iron Mantis wrote:That's your best response to a pointed and simple question?

You could have just sat this one out, lil buddy. :lol:


Oh, you wound me, sir. I just wanted to meme in peace, but you have besmirched my honor, so en garde.

You are not right, nor are wrong, for we know little of the closed door negotiations. There are finite reasons why a deal hasn't been inked that's left up to speculation. But when compared to other players in this very situation, i.e., Brandon Ingram, who has skipped the "volunteer" mini-camp for obvious reasons (stir the boat), I see no signs that a breakup in imminent. That disgruntled factor just isn't there.

On the other hand, we don't see anything similar happening on the Randle/Knicks front. He signed with CBA earlier in the year, Thibs has spoken about how he's going to use Randle, Randle voicing excitement with playing with this version of the Knicks, this school opening, and while speculation on my part, I'd bet money that MSG had something to do with the production of the Randle video and/or series.

Ian and/or Katz reported earlier in the Summer that despite the eligibility (some people keep thinking it's a deadline), neither side are in a rush to ink a new deal, which suggests to me that it's an inevitability. CA loves him, Leon loves him, Dolan loves him, his teammates love him. With the information available to us, a deal gets done. The why doesn't manner.


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Post#48 » by Iron Mantis » Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:37 pm

Wildcat wrote:
Iron Mantis wrote:
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Oh, you wound me, sir. I just wanted to meme in peace, but you have besmirched my honor, so en garde.

You are not right, nor are wrong, for we know little of the closed door negotiations. There are finite reasons why a deal hasn't been inked that's left up to speculation. But when compared to other players in this very situation, i.e., Brandon Ingram, who has skipped the "volunteer" mini-camp for obvious reasons (stir the boat), I see no signs that a breakup in imminent. That disgruntled factor just isn't there.

On the other hand, we don't see anything similar happening on the Randle/Knicks front. He signed with CBA earlier in the year, Thibs has spoken about how he's going to use Randle, Randle voicing excitement with playing with this version of the Knicks, this school opening, and while speculation on my part, I'd bet money that MSG had something to do with the production of the Randle video and/or series.

Ian and/or Katz reported earlier in the Summer that despite the eligibility (some people keep thinking it's a deadline), neither side are in a rush to ink a new deal, which suggests to me that it's an inevitability. CA loves him, Leon loves him, Dolan loves him, his teammates love him. With the information available to us, a deal gets done. The why doesn't manner.


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Iron Mantis wrote:Long-winded verbal acrobatics are fatiguing. All fluff.

They could have extended him already. They didn't.

Let's just cut to the heart of the matter in one simple truth: until there's news of a deal, Randle's future here is uncertain.

They may never offer him the type of money that he's looking for. We have to see.


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Post#49 » by Wildcat » Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:41 pm

Iron Mantis wrote:Long-winded verbal acrobatics are fatiguing. All fluff.

They could have extended him already. They didn't.

Let's just cut to the heart of the matter in one simple truth: until there's news of a deal, Randle's future here is uncertain.

They may never offer him the type of money that he's looking for. We have to see.


Knicks and Randle are under no obligation to sign an extension immediately. And all this hoopla started from Lowe, who absolutely has no insider source, but obvious ulterior motives.

I humbly accept recognition that you don't know anymore than I do, but if you're making someone's bed, more often than not that person is sleeping in that bed.

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Post#50 » by Iron Mantis » Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:18 pm

Wildcat wrote:
Iron Mantis wrote:Long-winded verbal acrobatics are fatiguing. All fluff.

They could have extended him already. They didn't.

Let's just cut to the heart of the matter in one simple truth: until there's news of a deal, Randle's future here is uncertain.

They may never offer him the type of money that he's looking for. We have to see.


Knicks and Randle are under no obligation to sign an extension immediately. And all this hoopla started from Lowe, who absolutely has no insider source, but obvious ulterior motives.

I humbly accept recognition that you don't know anymore than I do, but if you're making someone's bed, more often than not that person is sleeping in that bed.

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I hear you, yet, we don't know how much money Randle is looking for, and we don't know how much the Knicks are willing to pay.

He's not a franchise superstar who you HAVE to keep, so there's no certainty. He got injured and the Knicks didn't miss a beat.

Until we hear they've reached a deal, his future here is uncertain. That's the cold reality of the situation.

You might not like it, but It is what it is.
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Post#51 » by god shammgod » Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:19 pm

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Post#52 » by 8516knicks » Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:24 pm

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randle at 14....well damn
https://sports.yahoo.com/ranking-the-nbas-no-2-options-lakers-celtics-boast-the-leagues-best-co-stars-160133431.html



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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

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Post#55 » by Chanel Bomber » Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:53 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Season can't end fast enough at this point
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Post#56 » by Iron Mantis » Wed Sep 25, 2024 11:53 pm

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“Compliments to the Knicks and Jalen for creating an environment that he wanted to be in,” Silver said. “If he continues to play at the level he is, he’ll make an enormous amount of money, which is wonderful. But I think what he did with his contract is consistent with the way he leads on the floor. I think he made it clear to his teammates that he cares about them as well and he also realizes that in order to compete for championships, he needs great players around him.”


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Post#57 » by Wildcat » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:00 am

god shammgod wrote:
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randle at 14....well damn
https://sports.yahoo.com/ranking-the-nbas-no-2-options-lakers-celtics-boast-the-leagues-best-co-stars-160133431.html


... Siakim a # 2, option, huh? Despite averaging more PPGs and taking more shots than Haliburton, huh?? Okay, Yahoo!. Be it him or Haliburton, I'm sure as **** ain't ranking them over Randle.
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Post#58 » by rajajackal » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:16 am

randle broke ground with clyde frazier today. he'll show everybody
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Post#59 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Sep 26, 2024 12:33 am

Wildcat wrote:
Iron Mantis wrote:Long-winded verbal acrobatics are fatiguing. All fluff.

They could have extended him already. They didn't.

Let's just cut to the heart of the matter in one simple truth: until there's news of a deal, Randle's future here is uncertain.

They may never offer him the type of money that he's looking for. We have to see.


Knicks and Randle are under no obligation to sign an extension immediately. And all this hoopla started from Lowe, who absolutely has no insider source, but obvious ulterior motives.

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Post#60 » by Ray Williams » Thu Sep 26, 2024 1:02 am

I think Jericho is going to show significant improvement this year, Precious is a good backup ,we’ll be ok until Mitch gets back.
But if we want to make a move because of Mitch’s injury history, how about
Mitch and Deuce and picks for
Sengun and S.Adams.

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