Game Thread: NY Knicks at Phoenix Suns Wed, Nov 20 10:00 PM

[Iron Mantis]

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Getting better and better Folkssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amazing rim protector!

We are blessed to be in the KAT era.

[Guano]

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Getting better and better Folkssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Someone hit sham up on his pager and tell him it's safe to come back.

[3toheadmelo]

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Getting better and better Folkssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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63% is still really bad. He went from being the worst to being awful. Sham it ain’t safe yet homie!

[Guano]

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Getting better and better Folkssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Someone hit sham up on his pager and tell him it's safe to come back.

63% is still really bad. He went from being the worst to being awful. Sham it ain’t safe yet homie!

At his offensive output that's more than okay. Quit being unreasonable ffs.

[3toheadmelo]

Someone hit sham up on his pager and tell him it's safe to come back.

63% is still really bad. He went from being the worst to being awful. Sham it ain’t safe yet homie!

At his offensive output that's more than okay. Quit being unreasonable ffs.

We’re barely above .500 and we haven’t beat any contenders and you’re acting like we’re Boston

Sham if you’re reading this, guan0 is a full on h0mer now!!

[NoDopeOnSundays]

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The Walls of Jericho, I did not know he had that in him.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

63% is still really bad. He went from being the worst to being awful. Sham it ain’t safe yet homie!

At his offensive output that's more than okay. Quit being unreasonable ffs.

We’re barely above .500 and we haven’t beat any contenders and you’re acting like we’re Boston

Sham if you’re reading this, guan0 is a full on h0mer now!!

sham will need to make sure the coast is clear before he gets his phone from his jail wallet, he's probably braiding hair right now too.

[Wildcat]

It's too much when you go through the years and look at all-defense teams and generally speaking the elite wings his size play around 29-33mpg. The last couple years there's been a downward trend in minutes per game for defensive players.

With his injury history he should not be at a career high in MPG, he should be scaled down to 30mpg like Herb, Jrue, Jaden etc. Last night that collision with him and Hart could have ended our season, he had no business coming back into the game, that kind of thing shouldn't happen.

OG is a 2-way player. From his own lips and his numbers are backing that up. No a great comparisons.

So if we're going to discuss scaling down and comparing him to players like Jrue, 7 years ago Jrue was averaging 36 MPG when he was OG's age. All those other players are not All-Star level talents. They can get away with 26-30 MPG. OG can't. This is where we get into this weird minute police business. A career high in MPG at 36.4 is laughable when that career high is 36.0. When Mitch, Precious, and Deuce are back, he's probably going to lose a minute or two, anyway. I promise you, if Knicks somehow lost yesterday's game while leaving in the rookies to stink up the joint, you'll be asking, "Where's OG?"

He's fine at 36 MPG.

I disagree with this completely. People also want to see the rookies play. If we lost yesterday there would be bigger problems than OG not playing 40mpg. We also have more players than just rookies to fill those minutes.

Damn it! I swore I wouldn't join this conversation this year! DAMN YOU GULLY!! Must...resist!!

Heh, I should've said, "Where's the starters?" But you get my drift.

As of today, this bench is pretty trash without Deuce, Precious, or Mitch. So these 3 rookies are kind of "it", so to speak.

[Guano]

63% is still really bad. He went from being the worst to being awful. Sham it ain’t safe yet homie!

At his offensive output that's more than okay. Quit being unreasonable ffs.

We’re barely above .500 and we haven’t beat any contenders and you’re acting like we’re Boston

Sham if you’re reading this, guan0 is a full on h0mer now!!

Got my city edition OG jersey on ready to ask for your addy if you keep running your mouth about kats lack of defense.

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[Guano]

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The Walls of Jericho, I did not know he had that in him.

The only way to get by at a job when you suck is for people to like you a lot. And being the goon is any easy way to be likable. Hope he keeps this sht up.

[Wildcat]

It's too much when you go through the years and look at all-defense teams and generally speaking the elite wings his size play around 29-33mpg. The last couple years there's been a downward trend in minutes per game for defensive players.

With his injury history he should not be at a career high in MPG, he should be scaled down to 30mpg like Herb, Jrue, Jaden etc. Last night that collision with him and Hart could have ended our season, he had no business coming back into the game, that kind of thing shouldn't happen.

OG is a 2-way player. From his own lips and his numbers are backing that up. No a great comparisons.

So if we're going to discuss scaling down and comparing him to players like Jrue, 7 years ago Jrue was averaging 36 MPG when he was OG's age. All those other players are not All-Star level talents. They can get away with 26-30 MPG. OG can't. This is where we get into this weird minute police business. A career high in MPG at 36.4 is laughable when that career high is 36.0. When Mitch, Precious, and Deuce are back, he's probably going to lose a minute or two, anyway. I promise you, if the Knicks somehow lost yesterday's game while leaving in the rookies to stink up the joint, you'll be asking, "Where's OG?"

He's fine at 36 MPG.

Ah yes, the weird minutes police, just like last season when we said OG shouldn't be playing as much as he was after the trade, Tom kept the minutes in check for a few games then upped him to 37mpg over a stretch with several 40+mpg games and he hurts his elbow. Then the weird minutes police looked at how much he was playing the playoffs and said that wasn't sustainable and surprise surprise he hurt his hamstring. At 25 Kawhi was playing 33mpg, a guy who is injury prone should be protected, I don't understand why you're so pressed on chancing it. It would be one thing if he were some ironman, but he's injury prone and overuse injuries have happened to him in the past.

I'd rather lose a game and have everyone healthy for the playoffs, I'm not going to ask where's OG if he plays 33mpg and we lose a close one, I don't care as much about the regular season as I do about making it intact to the playoffs.

To put OG's elbow injury into perspective, bone spurs are not something that develops over a short period of time. Bone spurs quite literally take months to form. The real question is -- and I'm not doctor on this -- did anyone know they were forming? I never looked at OG's minutes before that elbow and linked it to playing time. That injury doesn't happen by playing 1 extra minute per game. I'm not even going to get into the flukiness of hamstring injuries. We lost Precious to hammy with him just averaging about 24 MPG (give or take).

I said it in the past, I don't view 36 MPG as overuse and those minutes will probably dip by a small margin soon.

And didn't OG request the Knicks bring in a specialist to reduce lingering injuries? I swear I thought I read something like that a few months ago.

[Jalen Bluntson]

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The Walls of Jericho, I did not know he had that in him.

The only way to get by at a job when you suck is for people to like you a lot. And being the goon is any easy way to be likable. Hope he keeps this sht up.

He caught a body! I love that play.

[Guano]

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The Walls of Jericho, I did not know he had that in him.

The only way to get by at a job when you suck is for people to like you a lot. And being the goon is any easy way to be likable. Hope he keeps this sht up.

He caught a body! I love that play.

Layig people out for harassing Brunson is the way to get fans to love him.

[Jalen Bluntson]

OG is a 2-way player. From his own lips and his numbers are backing that up. No a great comparisons.

So if we're going to discuss scaling down and comparing him to players like Jrue, 7 years ago Jrue was averaging 36 MPG when he was OG's age. All those other players are not All-Star level talents. They can get away with 26-30 MPG. OG can't. This is where we get into this weird minute police business. A career high in MPG at 36.4 is laughable when that career high is 36.0. When Mitch, Precious, and Deuce are back, he's probably going to lose a minute or two, anyway. I promise you, if Knicks somehow lost yesterday's game while leaving in the rookies to stink up the joint, you'll be asking, "Where's OG?"

He's fine at 36 MPG.

I disagree with this completely. People also want to see the rookies play. If we lost yesterday there would be bigger problems than OG not playing 40mpg. We also have more players than just rookies to fill those minutes.

Damn it! I swore I wouldn't join this conversation this year! DAMN YOU GULLY!! Must...resist!!

Heh, I should've said, "Where's the starters?" But you get my drift.

As of today, this bench is pretty trash without Deuce, Precious, or Mitch. So these 3 rookies are kind of "it", so to speak.

The discussion is about an injury prone player. We could use Mikal or Hart instead is my point.

I really don't want to engage in this discussion because it's pointless. There are valid points on both sides and there is ample amounts of evidence that Thibs overplays guys. It's not only about mpg with him. It's also going from zero to sixty and/or overusing injury prone guys instead of expanding his rotation. Or leaving guys in during blowouts. A regular season game is not worth the risks he takes with a playoff roster. Especially in November. We have seen it EVERY year we have made the playoffs and, his past teams have had similar issues. He needs to stop it. Period. It's the macro not the micro.

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[Jalen Bluntson]

The only way to get by at a job when you suck is for people to like you a lot. And being the goon is any easy way to be likable. Hope he keeps this sht up.

He caught a body! I love that play.

Layig people out for harassing Brunson is the way to get fans to love him.

Worked for me. I want more of this.

[3toheadmelo]

At his offensive output that's more than okay. Quit being unreasonable ffs.

We’re barely above .500 and we haven’t beat any contenders and you’re acting like we’re Boston

Sham if you’re reading this, guan0 is a full on h0mer now!!

Got my city edition OG jersey on ready to ask for your addy if you keep running your mouth about kats lack of defense.

I got my yns in melozakistan on go if you try something mf!

[NoDopeOnSundays]

OG is a 2-way player. From his own lips and his numbers are backing that up. No a great comparisons.

So if we're going to discuss scaling down and comparing him to players like Jrue, 7 years ago Jrue was averaging 36 MPG when he was OG's age. All those other players are not All-Star level talents. They can get away with 26-30 MPG. OG can't. This is where we get into this weird minute police business. A career high in MPG at 36.4 is laughable when that career high is 36.0. When Mitch, Precious, and Deuce are back, he's probably going to lose a minute or two, anyway. I promise you, if the Knicks somehow lost yesterday's game while leaving in the rookies to stink up the joint, you'll be asking, "Where's OG?"

He's fine at 36 MPG.

Ah yes, the weird minutes police, just like last season when we said OG shouldn't be playing as much as he was after the trade, Tom kept the minutes in check for a few games then upped him to 37mpg over a stretch with several 40+mpg games and he hurts his elbow. Then the weird minutes police looked at how much he was playing the playoffs and said that wasn't sustainable and surprise surprise he hurt his hamstring. At 25 Kawhi was playing 33mpg, a guy who is injury prone should be protected, I don't understand why you're so pressed on chancing it. It would be one thing if he were some ironman, but he's injury prone and overuse injuries have happened to him in the past.

I'd rather lose a game and have everyone healthy for the playoffs, I'm not going to ask where's OG if he plays 33mpg and we lose a close one, I don't care as much about the regular season as I do about making it intact to the playoffs.

To put OG's elbow injury into perspective, bone spurs are not something that develops over a short period of time. Bone spurs quite literally take months to form. The real question is -- and I'm not doctor on this -- did anyone know they were forming? I never looked at OG's minutes before that elbow and linked it to playing time. That injury doesn't happen by playing 1 extra minute per game. I'm not even going to get into the flukiness of hamstring injuries. We lost Precious to hammy with him just averaging about 24 MPG (give or take).

I said it in the past, I don't view 36 MPG as overuse and those minutes will probably dip by a small margin soon.

And didn't OG request the Knicks bring in a specialist to reduce lingering injuries? I swear I thought I read something like that a few months ago.

He's injury prone; I want him to play less, you want him to play more. You can rationalize it all you want, but at the end of the day the man has a track record of getting hurt, nothing is a fluke as it relates to him. This would be like saying Mitch should play more, I mean why? We all know the end result of him getting too many minutes and it's no different with OG.


https://www.foxsports.com/nba/og-anunoby-player-injuries



Injured before he even played a second in the NBA, there's no need to expose someone like this to prolonged minutes. Or to put them back in the 4th quarter of a game where we have a 24-point lead, only for them to collide with another very important player that also should have been on the bench. That 1 minute with that 1 collision could have ended our season, and neither of them should have been on the court.

There's no reason to risk it, none.

[Guano]

We’re barely above .500 and we haven’t beat any contenders and you’re acting like we’re Boston

Sham if you’re reading this, guan0 is a full on h0mer now!!

Got my city edition OG jersey on ready to ask for your addy if you keep running your mouth about kats lack of defense.

I got my yns in melozakistan on go if you try something mf!

Me after setting up the met up