OFFICIAL: Dwight A Laker NOT a Net WHeee!!!

darthkiller · Post #421 » by **darthkiller** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:33 am

lakers will have max cap space the year klove becomes a FA.

so Klove Dwight, that's a good start

knicksnyk · Post #422 » by **knicksnyk** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:33 am

Nono wrote:The stupidity of our front office if this deal goes through. Smh.

yup.

Red Vines · Post #423 » by **Red Vines** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:34 am

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Post still says the same. Nash will age well, Kobe will become more effective with the teams focusing in on Dwight, Pau will still be there...we're gonna have to agree to disagree here, dude.

So to be clear, you're saying in 2014 a 35 year old Kobe and 40 year old Nash can beat OKC, assuming the core players are still playing? Don't see it.

Post #424 » by **GONYK** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:34 am

albert wrote:
GONYK wrote:Why do people think that we would get the same type of deal the Lakers get? When has that ever happened?

The Tyson deal would be fairly comparable. We can't say we didn't get a steal with that one.

What deal? We had capspace due to using our amnesty. Everything after that is details really.

seren · Post #425 » by **seren** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:35 am

Weird trade to say the least. Afflalo is a fine player but his contract is not cheap at all. Vucevic is nothing special. They took on Al Harrington's garbage contract. And picks are all protected.

I didn't get it for Denver either. They have essentially 4 SFs on the roster now paying them a combined 30 million dollars.

Philly made out like bandits. Lakers improved too but let's not act like they didn't give anything. Bynum is still the second best center in the league.

Post #426 » by **GONYK** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:35 am

Crazyknicks wrote:
The Rockets took almost as many assets from us for a sign and trade for Camby than Orl did for Dwight Howard. Let that sink in...

What we traded for Camby doesn't even get you Afflalo

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #427 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:35 am

Red Vines wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Post still says the same. Nash will age well, Kobe will become more effective with the teams focusing in on Dwight, Pau will still be there...we're gonna have to agree to disagree here, dude.

So to be clear, you're saying in 2014 a 35 year old Kobe and 40 year old Nash can beat OKC, assuming the core players are still playing? Don't see it.

Yup...I can see it happening. Would be a good series, though...that's for sure.

knicksnyk · Post #428 » by **knicksnyk** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:36 am

albert wrote:
GONYK wrote:Why do people think that we would get the same type of deal the Lakers get? When has that ever happened?

The Tyson deal would be fairly comparable. We can't say we didn't get a steal with that one.

We did have some good fortune recently....

Sprewell4Three · Post #429 » by **Sprewell4Three** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:36 am

GONYK wrote:
Crazyknicks wrote:
The Rockets took almost as many assets from us for a sign and trade for Camby than Orl did for Dwight Howard. Let that sink in...

What we traded for Camby doesn't even get you Afflalo

Other teams know how the Knicks do business. They'll squeeze as much as they can from the Knicks because they know they'll get it..

blumatic · Post #430 » by **blumatic** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:36 am

knicksnyk wrote:
Nono wrote:The stupidity of our front office if this deal goes through. Smh.

yup.

Where's the stupidity of our front office in this deal. Its not an exact science where we got the math wrong. There are people and agendas involved.

seren · Post #431 » by **seren** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:36 am

Red Vines wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Post still says the same. Nash will age well, Kobe will become more effective with the teams focusing in on Dwight, Pau will still be there...we're gonna have to agree to disagree here, dude.

So to be clear, you're saying in 2014 a 35 year old Kobe and 40 year old Nash can beat OKC, assuming the core players are still playing? Don't see it.

Several issues with your post. We don't know what other moves Lakers can and will do until then. They are willing to spend money more than any other team and they always make the right moves. Add to that, OKC may not be able to keep their core with Ibaka and Harden potentially getting close to max contracts.

god shammgod · Post #432 » by **god shammgod** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:37 am

GONYK wrote:
Crazyknicks wrote:
The Rockets took almost as many assets from us for a sign and trade for Camby than Orl did for Dwight Howard. Let that sink in...

What we traded for Camby doesn't even get you Afflalo

it might not get you al harrington.

iLLSonChandla · Post #433 » by **iLLSonChandla** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:37 am

Lakers are so fuc**** annoying man damn.

lazard · Post #434 » by **lazard** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:38 am

albert wrote:
GONYK wrote:Why do people think that we would get the same type of deal the Lakers get? When has that ever happened?

The Tyson deal would be fairly comparable. We can't say we didn't get a steal with that one.

I don't think the Knicks offering Chandler the biggest contract (of teams interested) can be considered a steal.

Post #435 » by **GONYK** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:38 am

Sprewell4Three wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Crazyknicks wrote:
The Rockets took almost as many assets from us for a sign and trade for Camby than Orl did for Dwight Howard. Let that sink in...

What we traded for Camby doesn't even get you Afflalo

Other teams know how the Knicks do business. They'll squeeze as much as they can from the Knicks because they know they'll get it..

Ok, but why do they all bend over for the Lakers?

[GR] · Post #436 » by **[GR]** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:38 am

People really believe Jorts and Toney Douglas could get something more than Camby? Jesus ...

seren · Post #437 » by **seren** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:38 am

GONYK wrote:
Crazyknicks wrote:
The Rockets took almost as many assets from us for a sign and trade for Camby than Orl did for Dwight Howard. Let that sink in...

What we traded for Camby doesn't even get you Afflalo

Afflalo is a 27 year old SG who is definitely nothing more than a great role player who is on a long and not so cheap contract.

Red Vines · Post #438 » by **Red Vines** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:39 am

seren wrote:
Several issues with your post. We don't know what other moves Lakers can and will do until then. They are willing to spend money more than any other team and they always make the right moves. Add to that, OKC may not be able to keep their core with Ibaka and Harden potentially getting close to max contracts.

Nothing wrong actually. I said ASSUMING THE CORE PLAYERS ARE STILL PLAYING. But I am saying a backcourt of Kobe and Nash in the 2014 playoffs will not beat OKC with Durant and Westbrook in their prime.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #439 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:39 am

lazard wrote:
albert wrote:
GONYK wrote:Why do people think that we would get the same type of deal the Lakers get? When has that ever happened?

The Tyson deal would be fairly comparable. We can't say we didn't get a steal with that one.

I don't think the Knicks offering Chandler the biggest contract (of teams interested) can be considered a steal.

We got him for Turiaf + RAUTINS! STEAL!

seren · Post #440 » by **seren** » Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:39 am

GONYK wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:
GONYK wrote:
What we traded for Camby doesn't even get you Afflalo

Other teams know how the Knicks do business. They'll squeeze as much as they can from the Knicks because they know they'll get it..

Ok, but why do they all bend over for the Lakers?

They don't. Lakers usually make very fair deals. They just know how to negotiate and not overpay.