Knicks targeting Rondo

[Fat Kat]

How did the rumors start?

A$$HOLA

Well there you go.

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Same guy that can't shoot straight torched Heat for plus 40 in key playoff game and has 10 playoff triple doubles - is elite penetrator, with elite vision and makes everyone better - he's a superstar

Well if you go over one game or a series, I guess you are right. Question comes down to whether you can put role players around Rondo and he can carry his team to at least the playoffs and with another great piece whether he can win you a championship. I don't think the answer is positive. I doubt Boston thinks so either. I see no scenario any team is paying Rondo 22+ million a year TBH with the exception of New York Knicks.

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Well, that depends if Rondo is healthy or not. A healthy Rondo may get the max from a number of teams. John Wall just got the max. Eric Gordon got a huge deal. Teams still hand out plenty of bad contracts.

A not fully healthy Rondo may only get the max from the Knicks and that could spell trouble again.

Either way, the Celtics are the sellers and have awhile until they are forced to make a decision. The Knicks are the desperate broke team. It'll be awhile until the Knicks can make a move and they may end up with damaged goods if they get a deal thats too good to be true.

I think both deals look awful, but those contracts wouldn't touch what I mean max. Rondo's max would resemble more like Chris Paul's.

Don't get me wrong. I want Rondo on this team and once we get him, I don't mind paying him whatever is necessary. I am just saying if I am Rondo and I am after the max (I should be), I would want New York.

[johnnywishbone]

If Houston gets Rondo they are a bonafide contenders.

Lin's connection to Harvard is probably interesting for the celitcs too.

One more reason we should have signed Lin. Like we needed one more reason at this point.

[Fury]

Not signing Lin was so so stupid. Don't even get me started, bro

[MelosSoreWrist]

If Houston gets Rondo they are a bonafide contenders.

Lin's connection to Harvard is probably interesting for the celitcs too.

One more reason we should have signed Lin. Like we needed one more reason at this point.

Lin for Rondo might trigger a realgm meltdown here.

[[GR]]

Lin for Rondo is idiotic. Houston is one of the worst places for Rondo

[ibraheim718]

Not signing Lin was so so stupid. Don't even get me started, bro

You've been a good sport about it.. much better than I have. If you need to cuss and vent about it you can PM me.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Well, that depends if Rondo is healthy or not. A healthy Rondo may get the max from a number of teams. John Wall just got the max. Eric Gordon got a huge deal. Teams still hand out plenty of bad contracts.

A not fully healthy Rondo may only get the max from the Knicks and that could spell trouble again.

Either way, the Celtics are the sellers and have awhile until they are forced to make a decision. The Knicks are the desperate broke team. It'll be awhile until the Knicks can make a move and they may end up with damaged goods if they get a deal thats too good to be true.

I think both deals look awful, but those contracts wouldn't touch what I mean max. Rondo's max would resemble more like Chris Paul's.

Don't get me wrong. I want Rondo on this team and once we get him, I don't mind paying him whatever is necessary. I am just saying if I am Rondo and I am after the max (I should be), I would want New York.

I think Rondo's max would be in between Chris Paul and John Wall. He will have 9 years in the league so can make 30% of the cap, where as John Wall's max was 25% and CP3 was 35%. It would be like Rudy Gay's max. I think Rondo is way more accomplished then Rudy Gay. If he can get a max, Rondo can get a max so I just don’t see the Knicks being the only team willing to pay.

A team like the Mavs would probably be interested and they have a tax friendly state. Even more money if thats the priority.

[ibraheim718]

If Houston gets Rondo they are a bonafide contenders.

Lin's connection to Harvard is probably interesting for the celitcs too.

One more reason we should have signed Lin. Like we needed one more reason at this point.

Rondo works in Houston only if Harden is willing to actually be a SG most of the time.. which he could do but I don't know if he can push the monster he's let out since he got to Houston back in it's cage. He could however do his fair share of playmaking when Rondo goes to the bench. It's all up to James.. he concedes control of the ball to Rondo which I can somewhat see because Rondo's personality will force him to and Rondo is great at keeping his teammates happy when the game is in play like a good PG should.

Lin is only attractive to Boston if Stevens and Ainge are on the same page about the direction of the team. I can see Stevens being into it because of how coachable Lin is... and you wouldn't build the team centered around Lin.. you'd build it around whomever you drafted this year assuming they get a good pick.

[rl2011]

This whole thing makes no sense and cannot be true. Why would Boston want any NY package and why would it want any Houston package?

Lin and Asik are not cheap - especially next year with their poison pills kicking in. Lin and Asik are also role players and ur giving up a franchise PG who is in his mid 20's. That trade gets you nowhere closer to being a powerhouse contender and gives you zero assets for the future as Lin and Asik r not cheap or super young. Might as well keep Rondo - hope you bottom out this year and bring in a Wiggins/Randle/Parker and play Rondo with them.

As far as the Knicks - i mean thats just ridiculous as Shump is a role player with some upside, and us taking G wallace from them really doesn't do anythign but fast forward some cap room while giving up their best asset. This will also net them zero picks outside of maybe a 2018 one which i would hope they think they r OK on giving they got like 5 from Brooklyn. Do not see how this makes any sense at all for the team. Even if they brought in Shump - Felton - Hardaway JR. thats all nickels for a blue chip player who is in his 20's.

[ibraheim718]

This whole thing makes no sense and cannot be true. Why would Boston want any NY package and why would it want any Houston package?

Lin and Asik are not cheap - especially next year with their poison pills kicking in. Lin and Asik are also role players and ur giving up a franchise PG who is in his mid 20's. That trade gets you nowhere closer to being a powerhouse contender and gives you zero assets for the future as Lin and Asik r not cheap or super young. Might as well keep Rondo - hope you bottom out this year and bring in a Wiggins/Randle/Parker and play Rondo with them.

As far as the Knicks - i mean thats just ridiculous as Shump is a role player with some upside, and us taking G wallace from them really doesn't do anythign but fast forward some cap room while giving up their best asset. This will also net them zero picks outside of maybe a 2018 one which i would hope they think they r OK on giving they got like 5 from Brooklyn. Do not see how this makes any sense at all for the team. Even if they brought in Shump - Felton - Hardaway JR. thats all nickels for a blue chip player who is in his 20's.

Whoever trades for Asik and Lin will only be on the books for 8 million per year.

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[Johnny Hoops]

I don't think that is the appropriate question. The more important question for Rondo should be: Who is more likely to give you a five year max at the age of 29 after a major injury when you are a career 62 percent from free throw line, 24 percent from three point guard?

Don't get me wrong. I do want Rondo, but let's not act like he is a proven superstar.

Same guy that can't shoot straight torched Heat for plus 40 in key playoff game and has 10 playoff triple doubles - is elite penetrator, with elite vision and makes everyone better - he's a superstar

There is that word again

Says the guy that could not understand how we could ever consider trading Shump for Bledsoe.

[whysoserious488]

What a joke of an offer we made to the Celtics. Like they are going to trade their best player to a division rival and get only Shump, Felton, and Amare's expiring in return? What fantasy world was this rumor created in, or do we really think we're going to unload Amare on the Celtics and get Rondo in return?

Man, this season has just become a desperate sh*tshow....

[Johnny Hoops]

Same guy that can't shoot straight torched Heat for plus 40 in key playoff game and has 10 playoff triple doubles - is elite penetrator, with elite vision and makes everyone better - he's a superstar

Well if you go over one game or a series, I guess you are right. Question comes down to whether you can put role players around Rondo and he can carry his team to at least the playoffs and with another great piece whether he can win you a championship. I don't think the answer is positive. I doubt Boston thinks so either. I see no scenario any team is paying Rondo 22+ million a year TBH with the exception of New York Knicks.

Maybe I'm over-rating the guy --- have just always found him to be a great/dangerous player. He has certainly danced around and stepped all-over the Knicks during his career.

To be honest - I'm so desparate for a damn real PG on this team -- we haven't had one since M-Jackson have we???

[GONYK]

Same guy that can't shoot straight torched Heat for plus 40 in key playoff game and has 10 playoff triple doubles - is elite penetrator, with elite vision and makes everyone better - he's a superstar

There is that word again

Says the guy that could not understand how we could ever consider trading Shump for Bledsoe.

Eh, made the wrong call and didn't expect Shump to regress. It happens. It's not like it was ever an option anyway.

Still, Superstar is an overused word that gets applied to way too many players in this league. I don't see Rondo as the sort of player you can build an entire team around.

[Dr. Detfink]

Even IF...IF it was even remotely possible to fathom a Houston/Celtic trade, it's not going to involve Lin.

Every one seems to think, McHale/Ainge are going to hook up again. If Ainge made public Rondo on the block, there would be so many offers more intriguing than Houston or New York. Portland, Golden State, Denver, Detroit could all give Ainge pause to consider.

Knicks have ONE shot to get a PG and that's going to be when Stat's ridiculous $20M per constract is up. Problem being, I dunno if the rest of the expiring contracts can possibly fit Kevin Love. One thing's for sure, Knicks are never going to be championship contenders if Melo takes MORE money than he currently makes.

I'm curious when all the cap space is created, what would a real gm like Jerry West do?

[Johnny Hoops]

Same guy that can't shoot straight torched Heat for plus 40 in key playoff game and has 10 playoff triple doubles - is elite penetrator, with elite vision and makes everyone better - he's a superstar

There is that word again

Says the guy that could not understand how we could ever consider trading Shump for Bledsoe.

That said -- you may be right. Maybe I'm over-valuing what Rondo brings. Have just always thought he was a STUD in every sense of the word. Maybe he had the benefit of playing with great players.

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exactly how i feel