Knicks-Related Trade "THOUGHTS" Thread

[moocow007]

Send chandler to phx.
Phx send 2 first rounds and last year okafor contract to celtics.
Nyk recives rondo.

Its legit trade.
We may do
sanders for jr.smith too.

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That's really not much for Rondo. And what did Sanders do that would result in the Bucks being willing to do that deal for Smith?

EDIT: Wow...just looked into this...Sanders has been terrible...on AND off the court. Possibly beyond JR Smith bad.

[Marty McFly]

if we could have landed bledsoe or dragic with tyson i would have been so happy...

[Boarder Patrol]

Send chandler to phx.
Phx send 2 first rounds and last year okafor contract to celtics.
Nyk recives rondo.

Its legit trade.
We may do
sanders for jr.smith too.

Sent from my LG-D802 using RealGM Forums mobile app

That's really not much for Rondo. And what did Sanders do that would result in the Bucks being willing to do that deal for Smith?

EDIT: Wow...just looked into this...Sanders has been terrible...on AND off the court. Possibly beyond JR Smith bad.

Ainge just squeezed a future first and second (likely turns into 3 seconds) for Brooks and Jordan Crawford. He's not moving Rondo unless he's getting 2 good firsts AND nice prospects.

[Meat]

i dont see how anyone can look at adams and not think this guy could be something special in the league. that should definitely be our target for Tyson

[R-DAWG]

I don't see any reason for Portland to be messing with what's working for them and trading their already weak bench. And that collection of players doesn't get you Rondo unless you included a couple more unprotected picks.

Chandler would be a huge difference maker for them. But I don't think a 3 way with Rondo is realistic. If im the Knicks I would be happy with Robin Lopez, CJ McCollum, and a first round pick. There's room to get a 3 rd team involved and to absorb about 9 million in salary. Lopez replaces Chandler as the starting center. McCollum is a high ceiling rookie who replaces JR and also becomes a future trade asset. The first rd pick would come in 2016.

The 9 million can be used either to take on a contract of a serviceable role player ( ie baby Daviis or Jason Thompson) or a bad contract for a draft pick (ie Kendrick Perkins and a2014 1st).

It's something to think about as the team is loaded with big expiring contracts next year but no assets to package with them.

[Rasho Brezec]

i dont see how anyone can look at adams and not think this guy could be something special in the league. that should definitely be our target for Tyson

“Have you seen my sister?” Adams said, when asked about his ability to take a beating. “Look her up, bro.”

[Rasho Brezec]

I don't see any reason for Portland to be messing with what's working for them and trading their already weak bench. And that collection of players doesn't get you Rondo unless you included a couple more unprotected picks.

Chandler would be a huge difference maker for them. But I don't think a 3 way with Rondo is realistic. If im the Knicks I would be happy with Robin Lopez, CJ McCollum, and a first round pick. There's room to get a 3 rd team involved and to absorb about 9 million in salary. Lopez replaces Chandler as the starting center. McCollum is a high ceiling rookie who replaces JR and also becomes a future trade asset. The first rd pick would come in 2016.

The 9 million can be used either to take on a contract of a serviceable role player ( ie baby Daviis or Jason Thompson) or a bad contract for a draft pick (ie Kendrick Perkins and a2014 1st).

It's something to think about as the team is loaded with big expiring contracts next year but no assets to package with them.

I just don't think Tyson's value is as high as you do, especially after this year. They'd essentially be gambling on him to stay healthy when they already have a great thing going. It's not worth it.

[SuperflyKnick]

I don't see any reason for Portland to be messing with what's working for them and trading their already weak bench. And that collection of players doesn't get you Rondo unless you included a couple more unprotected picks.

Chandler would be a huge difference maker for them. But I don't think a 3 way with Rondo is realistic. If im the Knicks I would be happy with Robin Lopez, CJ McCollum, and a first round pick. There's room to get a 3 rd team involved and to absorb about 9 million in salary. Lopez replaces Chandler as the starting center. McCollum is a high ceiling rookie who replaces JR and also becomes a future trade asset. The first rd pick would come in 2016.

The 9 million can be used either to take on a contract of a serviceable role player ( ie baby Daviis or Jason Thompson) or a bad contract for a draft pick (ie Kendrick Perkins and a2014 1st).

It's something to think about as the team is loaded with big expiring contracts next year but no assets to package with them.

I just don't think Tyson's value is as high as you do, especially after this year. They'd essentially be gambling on him to stay healthy when they already have a great thing going. It's not worth it.

Chandlers value is not that great to Knick fans but outside people still see him as defensive player of the year material and hold high value for him.... There's a reason teams have been calling the Knicks to see if he is available

[ozwizard8]

Send chandler to phx.
Phx send 2 first rounds and last year okafor contract to celtics.
Nyk recives rondo.

Its legit trade.
We may do
sanders for jr.smith too.

Sent from my LG-D802 using RealGM Forums mobile app

That's really not much for Rondo. And what did Sanders do that would result in the Bucks being willing to do that deal for Smith?

EDIT: Wow...just looked into this...Sanders has been terrible...on AND off the court. Possibly beyond JR Smith bad.

sanders need fresh start urgently so getting him not hard.

getting rondo is vital. if we get rondo we wont need 2015 cap space too.
'15 plan was made for rondo or k.love. k.love worser than melo, his team builded around him and only 5 more W than UTAH and this season they didnt get injured at all.

[DowNY]

Knicks get - Rajon Rondo, Gerald Wallace & Jason Smith

Celtics get - G. Stiemsma, Anthony Bennett, Dion Waiters, Raymond Felton, Alonzo Gee, Tour'e Murry & our 2017 1st rd pick

Cavs get - Eric Gordon

Pelicans get - Tyson Chandler & JR Smith

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ly9u6w9

[jwise44]

Send chandler to phx.
Phx send 2 first rounds and last year okafor contract to celtics.
Nyk recives rondo.

Its legit trade.
We may do
sanders for jr.smith too.

Sent from my LG-D802 using RealGM Forums mobile app

That's really not much for Rondo. And what did Sanders do that would result in the Bucks being willing to do that deal for Smith?

EDIT: Wow...just looked into this...Sanders has been terrible...on AND off the court. Possibly beyond JR Smith bad.

sanders need fresh start urgently so getting him not hard.

getting rondo is vital. if we get rondo we wont need 2015 cap space too.
'15 plan was made for rondo or k.love. k.love worser than melo, his team builded around him and only 5 more W than UTAH and this season they didnt get injured at all.

There are still teams that would offer more for sanders than jr smith and his contract and knuckle headed ways

[bleedblue3303]

What about this. Not sure I love it and maybe just a lateral move. But curious about thoughts.

Detroit is not working. They need to breakup their attmept to become a better team. They are better off keeping monroe and Drummond and drafting a top 5 pick this year.

We give them Amare, JR Smith, and Iman.

They give us
Josh Smith, Brandon Jennings, and Cadwell Pope.

The salaries match. trade could be done. But not sure I would.

[K_ick_God]

Knicks get - Rajon Rondo, Gerald Wallace & Jason Smith

Celtics get - G. Stiemsma, Anthony Bennett, Dion Waiters, Raymond Felton, Alonzo Gee, Tour'e Murry & our 2017 1st rd pick

Cavs get - Eric Gordon

Pelicans get - Tyson Chandler & JR Smith

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ly9u6w9

Can't trade the 2017 pick. Next available is 2018.

[Johnny Hoops]

I don't see any reason for Portland to be messing with what's working for them and trading their already weak bench. And that collection of players doesn't get you Rondo unless you included a couple more unprotected picks.

Chandler would be a huge difference maker for them. But I don't think a 3 way with Rondo is realistic. If im the Knicks I would be happy with Robin Lopez, CJ McCollum, and a first round pick. There's room to get a 3 rd team involved and to absorb about 9 million in salary. Lopez replaces Chandler as the starting center. McCollum is a high ceiling rookie who replaces JR and also becomes a future trade asset. The first rd pick would come in 2016.

The 9 million can be used either to take on a contract of a serviceable role player ( ie baby Daviis or Jason Thompson) or a bad contract for a draft pick (ie Kendrick Perkins and a2014 1st).

It's something to think about as the team is loaded with big expiring contracts next year but no assets to package with them.

I don't know R-Dawg --- besides being over-rated what does Tyson do that R. Lopez isn't already doing for Portland? Plus Lopez is only 25/26 --- then you want a Top 10 pick (McCollum) who some rated a top 5 player in last draft and you want another 1st round pick from Portland. Plus you aren't matching salary here - wouldn't Portland have to add about $8M-$10M to make Salaries match with Tysons +$14M annual?

While I'd love that --- the more I see Tyson the more less I think teams would offer for him. Especially a team like Portland. I hope I'm wrong because I'd love Lopez, McCollum and a pick but just don't see it.

I'd also love R-Jackson from OKC for Tyson but again don't see them giving that up.

[Johnny Hoops]

Sorry - I see you mentioned a 3rd team to add salary to make the deal work. But wouldn't we have to take back that $$ as well?

[Dbloc123]

Ny gets
Perk
J green
Thabo
R Jackson


Bos gets
Felton
Collison
Okc 1st



Okc gets
Tyson
Jr
Beno
Nyk 2nd


Knicks

R Jackson
Shump
Green
Melo
Barbs

**** it....

[Meat]

What about this. Not sure I love it and maybe just a lateral move. But curious about thoughts.

Detroit is not working. They need to breakup their attmept to become a better team. They are better off keeping monroe and Drummond and drafting a top 5 pick this year.

We give them Amare, JR Smith, and Iman.

They give us
Josh Smith, Brandon Jennings, and Cadwell Pope.

The salaries match. trade could be done. But not sure I would.

and our 1st.

Jennings and smith are "knick" type players

[dakomish]

We don't sell high on guys to get picks like Boston did with Crawford. Instead We traded picks for a buy low candidate in Bargs who's invisible 90% of the time - a 100% of the time when Chandler is on the floor.

We didn't get any vets who have a winning pedigree - instead we got a guy who puts up stats on bad teams in Udrih.

We missed out on Deng who would be perfect next to Melo when playing small ball, which is our best. Instead we think getting another big will make us better. that's why went after Faried.

This team has no vision, and thus no identity. Do what works, and make moves built around what works. Go back to the 2 pg line up. If you're going to make a deal, get a tough pg who can play both ways. Get a two way SF who helps covers up Melo's mistakes like Chandler does. Seems like simple answers, but we continue to make dumbfounding moves. We need a real GM and coach who will step up to Dolan.

[dakomish]

We won't do this move, but I'd love to:

Chandler for Asik and Lin. Chandler is aging rapidly in front of our eyes. He still has a ton of appeal to teams and we need to sell high. Asik and Lin don't change the 2015 retooling plan, and allows us to keep a strong defensive anchor and go back to the 2 pg lineup.

[Meat]

We won't do this move, but I'd love to:

Chandler for Asik and Lin. Chandler is aging rapidly in front of our eyes. He still has a ton of appeal to teams and we need to sell high. Asik and Lin don't change the 2015 retooling plan, and allows us to keep a strong defensive anchor and go back to the 2 pg lineup.

why does Houston do it?