Draft Thread: Knicks got #3 - Combine and Beyond

[Newyorknick94]

yeah I dont want to either. Knicks shouldn't get greedy and gut their team just to have 3 superstars. I'd rather have 2 plus a deep bench. KD and Kyrie make the Knicks instant contenders already

Who's going to be that above-average 3rd option?

RJ in that case. He's the type of player that can wake up and score 20 any given night

Knox/Dsj/RJ all have the potential to be that third option depends how much they work over the summer really

[JXL]

I'm surprised at how many people are saying Barrett is a good fit with KD & Kyrie. He's a terrible fit. He's a guy who needs the ball in his hands to be most effective and he can't space the floor since he's not a shooter.

I saw a couple of Duke games, he can get space without the ball. Also, his jumpshot while not perfected is better than what he had in the U17 competition 2 years ago. He greatly improved in that area, but can still be better and will be better.

[JBreezeNY]

Timmy comparison is that off to y’all? Yikes tough crowd

[Fat]

I'm surprised at how many people are saying Barrett is a good fit with KD & Kyrie. He's a terrible fit. He's a guy who needs the ball in his hands to be most effective and he can't space the floor since he's not a shooter.

What was his percentage when he had his feet set and was open? I thought he was at least average on set shots

[Deeeez Knicks]

I'm surprised at how many people are saying Barrett is a good fit with KD & Kyrie. He's a terrible fit. He's a guy who needs the ball in his hands to be most effective and he can't space the floor since he's not a shooter.

He may not be the best fit at the moment, but we should take the BPA here if we keep the pick

[RHODEY]

how so?

Maybe it's just a feel but they were scouting at Duke a lot.

Reddish at 3

No thanks-ish"

[knickstape4ever]

Who's going to be that above-average 3rd option?

RJ in that case. He's the type of player that can wake up and score 20 any given night

Knox/Dsj/RJ all have the potential to be that third option depends how much they work over the summer really

yep, 3rd options dont need to be star players let alone superstars. RJ would be a great 3rd option

[NoLayupRule]

Timmy is a pretty bad comparison for RJ. Timmy even as a Sophmore/Junior wasn't close to RJ is now.

Agreed

Remember that RJ got 4.3 assists per game at duke

That’s an underrated part of his game

And defensively RJ is already superior to thjr. And RJ has a long way to go on that end

Yeah, his potential to be a facilator or secondary playmaker is one of the traits I like best and sets him apart from some of the other comparisons. I have heard Wiggins thrown around too, but he wasn't much of a facilitator in college (1.5 assists). It can increase his potential a lot.

YEah after seeing him play I don’t love the Wiggins comparison either

Derozan has been mentioned a lot because of measurements and college numbers.
I don’t expect that comparison to last either

I’m not sure who to compare him to
Harrison Barnes? Not great.

[god shammgod]

i've seen some people mention jalen rose. that seems like a decent comparison. but he's stronger/more athletic.

[taj2133]

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[HarthorneWingo]

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Perry: Dead ass b...Facts

No. Probably more like, it's great to see your kid up on the stage and doing great or whatever.

that's dan gilbert's kid

Whoever ...

[newyorker4ever]

knicks met with KPjr yesterday. Some kind of deal with #3 for #8 and #10 is a possibility. I would need something else though to sweeten the pot. Maybe the lesser of the ATL/CLE 2020 1st round pick.

But if you assumed the top 7 in no kind of order is Zion, Ja, RJ, Garland, Hunter, Culver, and Reddish.

If you walked away with Brandon Clarke and Kevin Porter Jr and another lesser asset would you pull the trigger?

Also looking at Coby White, Bol Bol, Sekou Doumbouya, Rui Hachimura.

[JXL]

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I would believe that. Lakers want to trade out of 4, Cavs most likely want a SF (Hunter), so Phoenix is the likeliest of teams because they have a need.

[Fat]

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Perfect fit

[SmoothLefty21]

I'm surprised at how many people are saying Barrett is a good fit with KD & Kyrie. He's a terrible fit. He's a guy who needs the ball in his hands to be most effective and he can't space the floor since he's not a shooter.

I saw a couple of Duke games, he can get space without the ball. Also, his jumpshot while not perfected is better than what he had in the U17 competition 2 years ago. He greatly improved in that area, but can still be better and will be better.

That's not really the point. KD and Kyrie would have the ball in their hands a ton. It's not to say that Barrett can't play off the ball at all--Duke ran him off enough pindowns here and there--but he's not a guy you want to try to square-peg-round-hole into a 3 & D guy early in his career. He's not going to do well in that role and he's not going to have the ball all that often if KD and Kyrie are here.

[KnickMan]

We’re gonna end up offering the Pels a full lineup.
DSJ
Frank
RJ
Knox
Mitch
Plus a pick probably.

And odds are he promptly gets hurt and we watch Knox, RJ and Mitch (possibly DSJ) become all star caliber players of the next few years...

They do this and I just might be done with this team. I am so sick of the "shortcut mentality" and I would really, really like to see what DSJ, RJ, Knox, Frank and Mitch along with KD and another Max (Kyrie) could do together.

[Orange Mamba]

I'm surprised at how many people are saying Barrett is a good fit with KD & Kyrie. He's a terrible fit. He's a guy who needs the ball in his hands to be most effective and he can't space the floor since he's not a shooter.

He may not be the best fit at the moment, but we should take the BPA here if we keep the pick

Could also play him as 6th man ala OKC Harden

[King of Canada]

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He won't last to 6, and it'll cost Phoenix to move up too

[Da_Mane_Man]

i don't think there will be a better duo than kd & kyrie in the league. name it ? what's even the next closest ? curry/klay ? lillard/ mccollum ? embiid/simmons ? i can't think of one. maybe you'll need to trade some of the youngsters/picks for the right role players but i'm not sure you have to trade all of them for ad to be a top contender.

This is a good point, but it's not taking into account free agency for other teams. Cause lebron/kawhi would be better. Pretty much anywhere Kawhi goes as long as there's another star. Russ/PG13? Maybe. Close. Ummm ... Kemba/Doncic/KP? Definitely deeper.

But generally, I agree with your point. No need to gut the roster because Kyrie/KD would be right up there with any duo, and then the rest of the roster would compete with any roster in the league. BUT ... if you wanna be head & shoulders above anyone else (which is always the goal), then KI/KD/AD is the move. That's for sure the best trio in the league ... by FAR.

I think it'll all depend on what management thinks of Mitchell and RJ's chances of turning into that 3rd star rather quickly - while KD's window is still open. The more I think about it, the more it seems like they'll pull the trigger for AD.

I lean towards keeping the kids, but I'm thinking about the Philly/Toronto series right now. Philly made moves to become DEEP with some pretty top-notch talent... and yet Kawhi almost single-handedly eliminated them. Honestly, if we're being completely unemotional about it (and i LOVE mitch), KI/KD/AD is unbeatable.

Jesus, I can't believe the level that we're talking about here. After being the worst franchise in the league for decades lol. Next season is gonna be surreal (provided KD actually comes).

[SmoothLefty21]

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He won't last to 6, and it'll cost Phoenix to move up too

Interesting. You think LAL or CLE is taking him them to pair with Lonzo or Sexton?