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Re: post game - that sucked 

Post#481 » by Knicksfan1992 » Wed May 12, 2021 4:12 pm

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prophet_of_rage wrote:It's not Coach Carter fantasy. That play was fine. It was just poorly executed. Thibs over relies on one on one creation and one on one rim protection throughout the game.

But in a game decided by 6 points or fewer that's on coaching. 10 points or more is on the players. 7-9 you just lost.

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Is it over-reliance or him coaching to the personnel he's given? I'm leaning towards the latter as I think any reasonable person would suggest because blaming this game on Thibs is pure madness to me lol. The only thing you can really ding him for is Payton which I don't feel like beating a dead horse about...


I'm not blaming Thibs for the loss. I'm blaming Thibs for not being less predictable.

There are a lot of issues that led to the loss, with rebounding being the main one. We're light in the pants up front.


That's fair. I don't think you're coming off as blaming Thibs tbh. I just think it's more of a personnel issue than a coaching issue personally. Randle, Rose and Burks are our shot-makers. One is out and the other 2 had trouble at the end getting things going. There is only so much a coach can draw up to overcome that kind of stuff IMO. At the end of the day, offensively, we're only going to go as far as Julius can carry us this year. He basically outplayed a top 5 guy for 48 minutes.

But yes the rebounding is an issue and elf is an issue. But if there weren't issues we would be a 1 seed lol. Hopefully by some miracle we could get Mitch back for the playoffs and help mitigate 1 of those issues :lol:
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Re: post game - that sucked 

Post#482 » by cgf » Wed May 12, 2021 4:12 pm

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nedleeds wrote:Fake covid season reality show continues. Payton with the -8 in 13 minutes, clutching the pics of Leon Rose in a Thai brothel. We're a Trae sprained ankle, Giannis day off and 3 protocol violations from the 10th seed.

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There have been so many crazy circumstances, and games lost by opponents early when we had no covid absences at the start of the year. We hit a bunch of teams who just didn't play their players (Bucks), Trae sprains his ankle and we come back to win a key head to head. So much opponents bad shooting luck this year. I think we're a very fake 4-5 seed. Now the injury luck isn't going our way with Mitch, now Quickly and Burks. In a normal 82 game season assuming Randle and RJs progress was the same I think we'd be lucky to be an 8th seed in the East.

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Re: post game - that sucked 

Post#483 » by god shammgod » Wed May 12, 2021 4:14 pm

off topic, but who got the full video link to the jbp ? i need to see joe yelling at empty chairs lol
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Re: post game - that sucked 

Post#484 » by Knicksfan1992 » Wed May 12, 2021 4:15 pm

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nedleeds wrote:Fake covid season reality show continues. Payton with the -8 in 13 minutes, clutching the pics of Leon Rose in a Thai brothel. We're a Trae sprained ankle, Giannis day off and 3 protocol violations from the 10th seed.

Don't understand the last sentence?


There have been so many crazy circumstances, and games lost by opponents early when we had no covid absences at the start of the year. We hit a bunch of teams who just didn't play their players (Bucks), Trae sprains his ankle and we come back to win a key head to head. So much opponents bad shooting luck this year. I think we're a very fake 4-5 seed. Now the injury luck isn't going our way with Mitch, now Quickly and Burks. In a normal 82 game season assuming Randle and RJs progress was the same I think we'd be lucky to be an 8th seed in the East.


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Re: post game - that sucked 

Post#485 » by mpharris36 » Wed May 12, 2021 4:15 pm

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god shammgod wrote:i think what bothers me most about the game is that randle did everything to win and put the game on his back and should have got the last shot. rj never even really looked over at him for the pass.


I don't think he even should have been in the game, when you're 2-12 and you sit pretty much the entire 4th you're too cold to come in and win the game


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Re: post game - that sucked 

Post#486 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed May 12, 2021 4:17 pm

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the only way lowry comes is if he decides he wants to play with derozan again :lol:

Lowry is going to Philly or Miami. if he goes to Miami, we might be able to get Kendrick Nunn off them. would you go after him? i wouldn’t mind him


Depends though. Are they willing to pay over 30 million? I doubt it. If the Knick want Lowry they can bowl him over with money way more than any other team can unless they want to gut their roster in a sign and trade

Lowry seems like he just wants to ring chase imo and he’s very close to Butler. they won’t need to give him the whole bag
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Re: post game - that sucked 

Post#487 » by Tron Carter » Wed May 12, 2021 4:19 pm

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Re: post game - that sucked 

Post#488 » by GONYK » Wed May 12, 2021 4:20 pm

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Is it over-reliance or him coaching to the personnel he's given? I'm leaning towards the latter as I think any reasonable person would suggest because blaming this game on Thibs is pure madness to me lol. The only thing you can really ding him for is Payton which I don't feel like beating a dead horse about...


I'm not blaming Thibs for the loss. I'm blaming Thibs for not being less predictable.

There are a lot of issues that led to the loss, with rebounding being the main one. We're light in the pants up front.


That's fair. I don't think you're coming off as blaming Thibs tbh. I just think it's more of a personnel issue than a coaching issue personally. Randle, Rose and Burks are our shot-makers. One is out and the other 2 had trouble at the end getting things going. There is only so much a coach can draw up to overcome that kind of stuff IMO. At the end of the day, offensively, we're only going to go as far as Julius can carry us this year. He basically outplayed a top 5 guy for 48 minutes.

But yes the rebounding is an issue and elf is an issue. But if there weren't issues we would be a 1 seed lol. Hopefully by some miracle we could get Mitch back for the playoffs and help mitigate 1 of those issues :lol:


Yea, I mean Thibs was playing with a hand tied behind his back without Burks and IQ. I think the actions that got Randle switched on to Matthews were good. Just wanted to see a little more motion off of that since you knew AD was going to swarm as soon as Julius put the ball on the floor.

Whatever though. This loss sucked, but the Knicks didn't play poorly. They just didn't close the loop.
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Re: post game - that sucked 

Post#489 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed May 12, 2021 4:22 pm

god shammgod wrote:off topic, but who got the full video link to the jbp ? i need to see joe yelling at empty chairs lol

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Re: post game - that sucked 

Post#490 » by god shammgod » Wed May 12, 2021 4:25 pm

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god shammgod wrote:off topic, but who got the full video link to the jbp ? i need to see joe yelling at empty chairs lol

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i saw that. and i got the audio, i want the video. :lol:
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Re: post game - that sucked 

Post#491 » by Capn'O » Wed May 12, 2021 4:25 pm

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K-DOT wrote:If we're being honest, Randle's turnover with 30 seconds left in OT, him holding the ball too long leading to a shot clock violation and missing the shot at the end at the end of the 4th were all just as big if not bigger than RJ missing the 3 in OT

Also not boxing out on Wesley Matthews

To ignore all this and say "it's entirely RJ's fault cause he missed the last shot" is lazy analysis at best, intentionally dishonest at worst.


we probably lost the game because of rebounding like thibs said.

to be honest, rj shouldn't even be in that spot. he should be in the corner. that's his place for now. it's not even meant as an insult, it's just a fact.


And in an ideal world we have IQ or Burks in to create their own space there. Either would have been a big help though I suppose 'Bron might have helped the Lakers.
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Re: post game - that sucked 

Post#492 » by blueNorange » Wed May 12, 2021 4:33 pm

randle had a great game but also didn't, he has to stop these 1 on 1/personal matchups.

pass the ball like you've done all season.

also obi has played defense well enough that thibs has to see randle/obi frontcourt, even if it's for 2-3 minutes.
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Re: post game - that sucked 

Post#493 » by Phish Tank » Wed May 12, 2021 4:34 pm

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god shammgod wrote:off topic, but who got the full video link to the jbp ? i need to see joe yelling at empty chairs lol

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i saw that. and i got the audio, i want the video. :lol:


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Re: post game - that sucked 

Post#494 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed May 12, 2021 4:36 pm

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i saw that. and i got the audio, i want the video. :lol:


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Re: post game - that sucked 

Post#495 » by god shammgod » Wed May 12, 2021 4:37 pm

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i saw that. and i got the audio, i want the video. :lol:


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this is what i saw that made me want the full video. :lol: he turned to address an empty chair.
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Post#496 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed May 12, 2021 4:38 pm

blueNorange wrote:randle had a great game but also didn't, he has to stop these 1 on 1/personal matchups.

pass the ball like you've done all season.

also obi has played defense well enough that thibs has to see randle/obi frontcourt, even if it's for 2-3 minutes.

not his fault rj and bullock missed open 3’s. Randle was really the only reason why we were in this game. he carried us on both ends.
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Re: post game - that sucked 

Post#497 » by god shammgod » Wed May 12, 2021 4:40 pm

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blueNorange wrote:randle had a great game but also didn't, he has to stop these 1 on 1/personal matchups.

pass the ball like you've done all season.

also obi has played defense well enough that thibs has to see randle/obi frontcourt, even if it's for 2-3 minutes.

not his fault rj and bullock missed open 3’s. Randle was really the only reason why we were in this game. he carried us on both ends.


this reminds me of the old melo games where people complained about him. sure, randle made some mistakes. he also was the only reason we were in the game and was easily the best player on either team.
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Re: post game - that sucked 

Post#498 » by CharlesOakley » Wed May 12, 2021 4:41 pm

For a lot of the fourth and overtime, the ball stayed only on the left side of the court with Randle taking tough shots as the double-team came. If this is our plan for the playoffs, we are in trouble.

Frank should not have been taken out for RJ. He was 3 of 4 from three and playing great defense. RJ was leaving his man open and shooting us out of the game.
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Re: post game - that sucked 

Post#499 » by KnixtapeH20 » Wed May 12, 2021 4:42 pm

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nedleeds wrote:Fake covid season reality show continues. Payton with the -8 in 13 minutes, clutching the pics of Leon Rose in a Thai brothel. We're a Trae sprained ankle, Giannis day off and 3 protocol violations from the 10th seed.

Don't understand the last sentence?


There have been so many crazy circumstances, and games lost by opponents early when we had no covid absences at the start of the year. We hit a bunch of teams who just didn't play their players (Bucks), Trae sprains his ankle and we come back to win a key head to head. So much opponents bad shooting luck this year. I think we're a very fake 4-5 seed. Now the injury luck isn't going our way with Mitch, now Quickly and Burks. In a normal 82 game season assuming Randle and RJs progress was the same I think we'd be lucky to be an 8th seed in the East.

And what about all the close games we should have won but didn't. Calls that didn't go our way.

We beat some of the best teams this season. This narrative that we're not tested or being a great team is some type of facade is ridiculous. Look no further than last night. We punched the Lakers in they **** mouth in their home court. Yet another game we should have won that goes against your argument.

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Re: post game - that sucked 

Post#500 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed May 12, 2021 4:43 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:
blueNorange wrote:randle had a great game but also didn't, he has to stop these 1 on 1/personal matchups.

pass the ball like you've done all season.

also obi has played defense well enough that thibs has to see randle/obi frontcourt, even if it's for 2-3 minutes.

not his fault rj and bullock missed open 3’s. Randle was really the only reason why we were in this game. he carried us on both ends.


this reminds me of the old melo games where people complained about him. sure, randle made some mistakes. he also was the only reason we were in the game and was easily the best player on either team.

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