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[TheGreenArrow]

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Is Minny still offering that with KD basically saying he doesn't want to play there and it would be a 1 year rental situation. If so that would be pretty dumb.

TOR I could see doing that because those players really aren't needle movers and they kinda stink anyway Ingram, Barnes, and Durant would be a pretty clunky fit.

[KnixinSix]

Like others have stated, I do think Mikal has the best chance to be moved if there's no extension talks. This FO tends to value player control and it's not like Mikal really proved himself an invaluable piece to the team consistently last year.

Maybe the FO talks themselves into a new coach unlocking him and don't want to sell low on a guy they paid a premium for to bring in.

But I also think they could look at this as somewhat of a sunk cost and try to extract as much value to get better fitting pieces in that enhance the core a bit more than Mikal did last season.

I just wonder how the FO would approach a Mikal trade. Would they look to bolster depth or try to use Mikal to get a perceived talent upgrade from somewhere else.

I think with Mikal, I would lean more to getting quality depth and maybe re-stocking our picks a bit but I oculd see the argument to just amplifying the talent level and hoping a coach can get something out of Dadiet, Kolek, and Huk to naturally provide depth

I think with a Mikal trade you would target middling teams looking for some more juice in their SL.

A few ideas I had:

Monk/Keon Ellis/draft comp for Mikal - This is my favorite Mikal for depth trade. Idea would be you get more shot creation and shooting off the bench with Monk. Then you can either start Deuce or Keon and have 48 minutes of good POA defense.

Coby White/Lonzo Ball 1-2 FRPs for Mikal - Similar idea to the above. Bulls have a glut of guards and probably don't want to pay Coby long term with Giddey, Dosunmo, Buzelis and Heurter all there.

Herb Jones/Jordan Hawkins/Alvarado + 7th pick for Mikal - I, admittedly, don't love this one but getting the 7th pick would allow the Knicks to then parlay a bigger deal with possibly Mitch or OG attached. Or they can try to find a productive rookie in this pretty good draft class.

These might all suck upon review but it's really hard to find a good Mikal trade because that 24 million is just tough to work with to get a real impact player or players back.

Mikal gets so underrated around here. Outside of Brunson and KAT offensively... NO ONE was consistently proving to be invaluable. As a team though, they were in the ECF with poor coaching.

We need better coaching and a deeper bench that actually gets to play. That's why we didn't get passed Indiana. It wasn't for lack of talent. It wasn't because of Mikal.

When we pick the next HC they need to build a team he thinks he can win with. Whoever has to go can be decided then. I wouldn't expect any big deals happening at all but, things pop up every year. The league is still trying to figure out how to work around these stupid apron rules. That's how we got KAT.

Mikal has a say in wherever he goes if we did trade him. He has the leverage. So, while I would keep him, it's not like we can just sit here naming players we would take back in a deal. He has an extension coming. It's not that simple

I can tell you with the utmost confidence Mikal HATED how Thibs utilized him in his system (especially defensively). He HATED it.

Now Thib's gone, him coming back/being extended is more a possibility but...... the Front office most defintely didn't appreciate how he went public with his thoughts.

Further complicating things he has 1 year left, and isn't CAA while the top 3: KAT, Brunson and OG are.

I like Mikal and even wouldn't hate if we kept him over OG if it were one or the other. I absolutely think he would be better here under another coach but it all depends on what they want to do with the roster moving forward.

[sol537]

PHX should take either of those deals and run. Maybe they can squeeze a pick swap as well out of them.

[BKlutch]

Suns publicly basically saying they would trade him before the draft they basically nuked there leverage. Now Durant and Rich leaking stuff like not wanting to go to Minny and Minny doesn't want to give up Gobert/DD + whatever other assets for a 1 year rental.

The Heat are basically just offering PHX potential luxury tax relief but there package is basically going to be headlined by Jacquez? Are they even offering Ware in the deal?

Suns asking for #2 pick or Castle for 37 year old KD is comical.

They are in a **** spot from there own doing.

I guess they can get bailed out by maybe TOR just saying hey we want to win a bit more next year and get a big name like they did with Kawhi but this isn't Kawhi in his prime....KD at his age aint making a non playoff team a contender.

I'm kind of happy seeing that KD's market value has dropped. In terms of helping teams win, he's always been less than his stats. He treats fans badly, treated us badly, treated Kenny Atkinson badly, has a severe injury history and is going to be 38 before the next season starts. All in all, as MP just said, he won't make a lesser team a contender. I don't see him helping us in any way, unless he gets bought out and we replace Cam Payne with KD for the same salary.

Durant did this to himself. Phoenix was dumb to trade for him and it went exactly as I thought it would go.

Yes it did. It validated my thoughts about him, and I’m not upset that such a lovely person as Ishbia (whose name is even full of ish) is the one to regret signing him.

[dukeknicksirish]

Would Scott Perry trade us Monk for Hart + Kolek?

We could pivot to sign Thybulle, retain Wright and McCullar and run with:

Mitch/Huk/#55
KAT/Thybulle
OG/Dadiet/McCullar
Mikal/McBride
Brunson/Monk/Wright

[BKlutch]

Like others have stated, I do think Mikal has the best chance to be moved if there's no extension talks. This FO tends to value player control and it's not like Mikal really proved himself an invaluable piece to the team consistently last year.

Maybe the FO talks themselves into a new coach unlocking him and don't want to sell low on a guy they paid a premium for to bring in.

But I also think they could look at this as somewhat of a sunk cost and try to extract as much value to get better fitting pieces in that enhance the core a bit more than Mikal did last season.

I just wonder how the FO would approach a Mikal trade. Would they look to bolster depth or try to use Mikal to get a perceived talent upgrade from somewhere else.

I think with Mikal, I would lean more to getting quality depth and maybe re-stocking our picks a bit but I oculd see the argument to just amplifying the talent level and hoping a coach can get something out of Dadiet, Kolek, and Huk to naturally provide depth

I think with a Mikal trade you would target middling teams looking for some more juice in their SL.

A few ideas I had:

Monk/Keon Ellis/draft comp for Mikal - This is my favorite Mikal for depth trade. Idea would be you get more shot creation and shooting off the bench with Monk. Then you can either start Deuce or Keon and have 48 minutes of good POA defense.

Coby White/Lonzo Ball 1-2 FRPs for Mikal - Similar idea to the above. Bulls have a glut of guards and probably don't want to pay Coby long term with Giddey, Dosunmo, Buzelis and Heurter all there.

Herb Jones/Jordan Hawkins/Alvarado + 7th pick for Mikal - I, admittedly, don't love this one but getting the 7th pick would allow the Knicks to then parlay a bigger deal with possibly Mitch or OG attached. Or they can try to find a productive rookie in this pretty good draft class.

These might all suck upon review but it's really hard to find a good Mikal trade because that 24 million is just tough to work with to get a real impact player or players back.

Mikal gets so underrated around here. Outside of Brunson and KAT offensively... NO ONE was consistently proving to be invaluable. As a team though, they were in the ECF with poor coaching.

We need better coaching and a deeper bench that actually gets to play. That's why we didn't get passed Indiana. It wasn't for lack of talent. It wasn't because of Mikal.

When we pick the next HC they need to build a team he thinks he can win with. Whoever has to go can be decided then. I wouldn't expect any big deals happening at all but, things pop up every year. The league is still trying to figure out how to work around these stupid apron rules. That's how we got KAT.

Mikal has a say in wherever he goes if we did trade him. He has the leverage. So, while I would keep him, it's not like we can just sit here naming players we would take back in a deal. He has an extension coming. It's not that simple

I can tell you with the utmost confidence Mikal HATED how Thibs utilized him in his system (especially defensively). He HATED it.

Now Thib's gone, him coming back/being extended is more a possibility but...... the Front office most defintely didn't appreciate how he went public with his thoughts.

Further complicating things he has 1 year left, and isn't CAA while the top 3: KAT, Brunson and OG are.

I like Mikal and even wouldn't hate if we kept him over OG if it were one or the other. I absolutely think he would be better here under another coach but it all depends on what they want to do with the roster moving forward.

Thib’s misuse of Mikal may be one of the reasons for his firing. The new coach must have a plan for using him effectively.

[stuporman]

The Suns should take that Raptors package and run, they get 3 starters, two of them young, and a lottery pick? Better than the Minny deal plus if the Spurs and Rockets are playing hardball with their offers then that might be the best deal they are going to get.

[Jalen Bluntson]

Like others have stated, I do think Mikal has the best chance to be moved if there's no extension talks. This FO tends to value player control and it's not like Mikal really proved himself an invaluable piece to the team consistently last year.

Maybe the FO talks themselves into a new coach unlocking him and don't want to sell low on a guy they paid a premium for to bring in.

But I also think they could look at this as somewhat of a sunk cost and try to extract as much value to get better fitting pieces in that enhance the core a bit more than Mikal did last season.

I just wonder how the FO would approach a Mikal trade. Would they look to bolster depth or try to use Mikal to get a perceived talent upgrade from somewhere else.

I think with Mikal, I would lean more to getting quality depth and maybe re-stocking our picks a bit but I oculd see the argument to just amplifying the talent level and hoping a coach can get something out of Dadiet, Kolek, and Huk to naturally provide depth

I think with a Mikal trade you would target middling teams looking for some more juice in their SL.

A few ideas I had:

Monk/Keon Ellis/draft comp for Mikal - This is my favorite Mikal for depth trade. Idea would be you get more shot creation and shooting off the bench with Monk. Then you can either start Deuce or Keon and have 48 minutes of good POA defense.

Coby White/Lonzo Ball 1-2 FRPs for Mikal - Similar idea to the above. Bulls have a glut of guards and probably don't want to pay Coby long term with Giddey, Dosunmo, Buzelis and Heurter all there.

Herb Jones/Jordan Hawkins/Alvarado + 7th pick for Mikal - I, admittedly, don't love this one but getting the 7th pick would allow the Knicks to then parlay a bigger deal with possibly Mitch or OG attached. Or they can try to find a productive rookie in this pretty good draft class.

These might all suck upon review but it's really hard to find a good Mikal trade because that 24 million is just tough to work with to get a real impact player or players back.

Mikal gets so underrated around here. Outside of Brunson and KAT offensively... NO ONE was consistently proving to be invaluable. As a team though, they were in the ECF with poor coaching.

We need better coaching and a deeper bench that actually gets to play. That's why we didn't get passed Indiana. It wasn't for lack of talent. It wasn't because of Mikal.

When we pick the next HC they need to build a team he thinks he can win with. Whoever has to go can be decided then. I wouldn't expect any big deals happening at all but, things pop up every year. The league is still trying to figure out how to work around these stupid apron rules. That's how we got KAT.

Mikal has a say in wherever he goes if we did trade him. He has the leverage. So, while I would keep him, it's not like we can just sit here naming players we would take back in a deal. He has an extension coming. It's not that simple

I can tell you with the utmost confidence Mikal HATED how Thibs utilized him in his system (especially defensively). He HATED it.

Now Thib's gone, him coming back/being extended is more a possibility but...... the Front office most defintely didn't appreciate how he went public with his thoughts.

Further complicating things he has 1 year left, and isn't CAA while the top 3: KAT, Brunson and OG are.

I like Mikal and even wouldn't hate if we kept him over OG if it were one or the other. I absolutely think he would be better here under another coach but it all depends on what they want to do with the roster moving forward.

We have a pretty solid team. All the noise about can't win with them is agenda driven.
We don't need to go big game hunting this summer. Unless a perfect scenario happens like with KAT, we need to strengthen the bench. That's it.

Our biggest problems were the HC. Even his biggest fans know he dropped the ball with his stubborn ways. We should still be playing. Once we solve that problem, we will have a more realistic idea of what we need.

As it is, with the current roster and no trades, we can get an idea.
We need a backup 5
We need a good backup PG
We need a backup wing.

Which ones fit the next HC is the only thing left to be determined.

Starting Mitch would go a long way to solving some depth issues. Can he stay healthy? Who is splitting time with him? Having KAT makes that easier because he can play some minutes too.

There's a good team here. We are very close. Finding the next HC is the next move.

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[KnixinSix]

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Kris Pursiainen on the show and thinks Knicks get Walker Kessler for the Wizards 1st and 3 2nds.

[DaGawd]

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i’ll say it.. a straight up swap of kat for kd would’ve been an isiah thomas level mistake

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Stephen A pushing for KD? Thank God we avoided him… if this scrub is wanting him, nobody should

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Kris Pursiainen on the show and thinks Knicks get Walker Kessler for the Wizards 1st and 3 2nds.

If we do that, we need to capitalize on a Mitch/Hart combo deal somewhere

[thebuzzardman]

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Kris Pursiainen on the show and thinks Knicks get Walker Kessler for the Wizards 1st and 3 2nds.

If we do that, we need to capitalize on a Mitch/Hart combo deal somewhere

JJJ!!!!!!!!!

Couldn’t resist

[VirginiaKnickFan]

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Kris Pursiainen on the show and thinks Knicks get Walker Kessler for the Wizards 1st and 3 2nds.

What's Pursisainen been smoking? The Lakers offered multiple 1st rd picks and were rejected by the pick hoarder Ainge. That Knicks offer for Kessler he is proposing is truly laughable.

[8516knicks]

Like others have stated, I do think Mikal has the best chance to be moved if there's no extension talks. This FO tends to value player control and it's not like Mikal really proved himself an invaluable piece to the team consistently last year.

Maybe the FO talks themselves into a new coach unlocking him and don't want to sell low on a guy they paid a premium for to bring in.

But I also think they could look at this as somewhat of a sunk cost and try to extract as much value to get better fitting pieces in that enhance the core a bit more than Mikal did last season.

I just wonder how the FO would approach a Mikal trade. Would they look to bolster depth or try to use Mikal to get a perceived talent upgrade from somewhere else.

I think with Mikal, I would lean more to getting quality depth and maybe re-stocking our picks a bit but I oculd see the argument to just amplifying the talent level and hoping a coach can get something out of Dadiet, Kolek, and Huk to naturally provide depth

I think with a Mikal trade you would target middling teams looking for some more juice in their SL.

A few ideas I had:

Monk/Keon Ellis/draft comp for Mikal - This is my favorite Mikal for depth trade. Idea would be you get more shot creation and shooting off the bench with Monk. Then you can either start Deuce or Keon and have 48 minutes of good POA defense.

Coby White/Lonzo Ball 1-2 FRPs for Mikal - Similar idea to the above. Bulls have a glut of guards and probably don't want to pay Coby long term with Giddey, Dosunmo, Buzelis and Heurter all there.

Herb Jones/Jordan Hawkins/Alvarado + 7th pick for Mikal - I, admittedly, don't love this one but getting the 7th pick would allow the Knicks to then parlay a bigger deal with possibly Mitch or OG attached. Or they can try to find a productive rookie in this pretty good draft class.

These might all suck upon review but it's really hard to find a good Mikal trade because that 24 million is just tough to work with to get a real impact player or players back.

Players have even mentioned Coby White or Lonzo in a trade; that seems probably the most effective boost (plus picks) we could get. Mikal showed up in the Boston series so not sure if it was Thibs keeping him down.

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i’ll say it.. a straight up swap of kat for kd would’ve been an isiah thomas level mistake

Yeah. Absolutely terrible. I would not be mad at getting KD in a good trade. Too bad he's 54mil expiring and we aren't tanking.

How does a trade work out mathematically? Does Stupid A Smith know anything about the cap/apron rules work? What are we filling the roster out with?

KAT straight up is a terrible idea because we are already up against the second apron. Phoenix would have to cough up draft picks and they don't have any. It would be Antonio McDyess all over again.

So...OG/Hart? Still want picks back. Mikal Hart and Mitch? Really?

He's a rental with maybe 2 years left in him? Not interested because I'm a realist.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

Had JJJ made an All-NBA team, he would have been eligible to sign a five-year extension worth up to $345.3 million this offseason. Since he didn’t, the Grizzlies can offer him no more than a four-year extension worth $146.8 million. That’s basically OG’s salary slot. Knicks could do a OG for JJJ swap and follow up with Mitch for Donte swap in some 3way trade.

If I not mistaken if the Memphis renegotiate JJJ salary (adding salary from cap space), they will could offer him a 200M extension.

I don't see why Memphis would want to trade JJJ. It looks like they traded Bane to make room for the possible extension Richard4444 mentions.

from Bobby Marks on ESPN website:

Because the rookie extension Jackson signed in 2021 declines, the maximum extension allowed would be four-years, $146.8 million, which is $150 million less than what he could sign for with Memphis as a free agent in 2026 and $75 million less than he could get with another team that has cap space.

A workable solution is to renegotiate his $23.3 million salary with cap space and then extend him an additional four seasons. For example, the Grizzlies could use their $6.9 million in available room to increase his salary to $30.3 million. Memphis would then be allowed to extend him for another four years and $190 million. Jackson joined Anthony Davis and Victor Wembanyama as the only players to average 20 points and 1.5 blocks during the regular season.

What to expect: A renegotiation and extension. If the goal for Year 1 of the extension starts at $51 million (the max first-year salary), Memphis will need to have $14 million in room to increase his pay in 2025-26.

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Kris Pursiainen on the show and thinks Knicks get Walker Kessler for the Wizards 1st and 3 2nds.

What's Pursisainen been smoking? The Lakers offered multiple 1st rd picks and were rejected by the pick hoarder Ainge. That Knicks offer for Kessler he is proposing is truly laughable.

there is zero chance Kessler after his best year of his career is being traded for a "fake" 1st and a couple 2nd rounders.

No way...if Jazz are trading Kessler they will get multiple 1sts.