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Melo Trade Thread #? - We all know nothing (Upd PG 64 - Deal Happening Tonight/Tomorrow?)

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Re: Melo Trade Thread #? - We all know nothing (Upd PG 7 Deal Close?) 

Post#541 » by Crunchknicks1 » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:20 am

That Cleveland trade sucks. And the Knicks have clearly said they want to go young. Free don't fit that. Either do Jefferson. So it won't happen. You think the cavs have not offers that yet lol or Anderson to the Knicks. The reason why it's not done is because knicks want young players to run in gun in horn system. That simple
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Post#542 » by Bklyn&company » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:21 am

camillepd wrote:If Cavs want Melo, they will have to give up Love. It's that simple.

No its not...who told you that? Phil Jackazz? LOL
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Post#543 » by Amsterdam » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:21 am

Bklyn&company wrote:
chs234 wrote:FWIW- This trade between the Knicks and Cavs works straight up. No need to add in Love or a 3rd team.

Cavs get- Carmelo Anthony
Knicks get- Iman Shumpert (2 years, 10.3 mil per), Channing Frye (1 year, 7.4 mil), Richard Jefferson (2 years, 2.5 mil), Kay Felder (2 years, 1.3 mil)

The return the Knicks are getting is so bad they could probably easily sneak a 2020 Cleveland first round pick in there.

This trade would EASILY be the Knicks best option, and it's also the best option for the Cavs because they keep Love and add Carmelo.
yup... have been posting this for weeks... its a simple trade... win for both sides...

We can also buy out RJ (pennies), waive Frye...



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Channing Frye knows firsthand the wisdom of Jeff Hornacek
By Marc Berman June 14, 2016 | 10:46pm

CLEVELAND — Channing Frye had one of his best and most enjoyable seasons in 2013-14, playing in Phoenix for Jeff Hornacek.

The Suns won 48 games as the surprise team in the league under the then-rookie head coach. Frye, now a Cavaliers reserve, reminisced about his season in the Valley of the Sun with the new Knicks coach.

“Great guy, great coach,” Frye told The Post before Game 5 Sunday. “I thought he did a great job of getting the most of a young team, being able to inspire guys to play hard on a consistent basis and put guys in situations where [they] could flourish and learn. He’s a defensive-minded coach, but also wants to makes sure guys are out and running and playing the right way.”

Frye, a Knicks lottery pick in 2005 out of Arizona, was surprised how easily Hornacek adapted to the job. Frye played four seasons in Phoenix, the last with Hornacek.

“He wasn’t like a rookie coach,” Frye said. “He’s wise beyond his years. I think he’ll do a great job in New York. He’s not worried about the pressure, not worried about anything other than winning and making his players better. He does a good job of being a player’s coach but also at the same time demanding excellence and playing hard every single night. I’d vouch for Jeff every day.”

Reinventing his game, Frye became a 3-point shooter who thrived in Hornacek’s high-tempo, pick-and-roll-heavy offense. Hornacek plans to run the triangle with the Knicks, but with spacing tweaks and more pick-and-rolls.

“We won 48 games, so he was doing something right,” Frye said. “Goran [Dragic] and I had the No. 1-rated screen and roll. [Eric] Bledsoe and Miles Plumee were doing great things. We were 10th in scoring for a team that wasn’t supposed to win 10 games. It was pretty damn good.”

At least for that one season. Frye left as a free agent, and the Suns lost other cogs that put them into a spiral that led to Hornacek’s dismissal last February with a 14-35 record.
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Re: Melo Trade Thread #? - We all know nothing (Upd PG 7 Deal Close?) 

Post#544 » by frothbrain » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:22 am

camillepd wrote:If Cavs want Melo, they will have to give up Love. It's that simple.



they don't and they won't. they already have the highest bid without Love.

Knicks are not paying Melo $55 million over 2 seasons to suck and ruin the culture they are trying to develop.
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Post#545 » by Kurt Rambis » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:23 am

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stuporman wrote:So the Knicks are supposed to grant Melo his wish to team up with LBJ in a deal for for an assortment of trash that ties up cap space but gets them no real assets at all? No thanks... let him opt out.


If we don't trade Melo, how are we supposed to get shots for THJr? He'll be $70M wasted sitting on the bench.


We can sit Melo. He can warm the bench with his fat ass.
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Post#546 » by Bklyn&company » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:24 am

Crunchknicks1 wrote:That Cleveland trade sucks. And the Knicks have clearly said they want to go young. Free don't fit that. Either do Jefferson. So it won't happen. You think the cavs have not offers that yet lol or Anderson to the Knicks. The reason why it's not done is because knicks want young players to run in gun in horn system. That simple

Its called buyout and waiver wire... the same Atl used on J.Crawford, and other team have been using for years to take on an asset (Felder, 1st rd pick and maybe more).... wake the hell up... what's with you all fans... smh
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Re: Melo Trade Thread #? - We all know nothing (Upd PG 7 Deal Close?) 

Post#547 » by yesimmad » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:25 am

Kurt Rambis wrote:
AmazingJason wrote:
stuporman wrote:So the Knicks are supposed to grant Melo his wish to team up with LBJ in a deal for for an assortment of trash that ties up cap space but gets them no real assets at all? No thanks... let him opt out.


If we don't trade Melo, how are we supposed to get shots for THJr? He'll be $70M wasted sitting on the bench.


We can sit Melo. He can warm the bench with his fat ass.
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Why waste the roster spot. Send him to Westchester.
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Post#548 » by AmazingJason » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:28 am

yesimmad wrote:
Kurt Rambis wrote:
AmazingJason wrote:
If we don't trade Melo, how are we supposed to get shots for THJr? He'll be $70M wasted sitting on the bench.


We can sit Melo. He can warm the bench with his fat ass.
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Why waste the roster spot. Send him to Westchester.


Damn, Melo would beast there. Probably put up 50 PPG.

Houston would regret not giving us Qi and Hartenstein :x
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Post#549 » by yesimmad » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:31 am

AmazingJason wrote:
yesimmad wrote:
Kurt Rambis wrote:
We can sit Melo. He can warm the bench with his fat ass.
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Why waste the roster spot. Send him to Westchester.


Damn, Melo would beast there. Probably put up 50 PPG.

Houston would regret not giving us Qi and Hartenstein :x

He'd finally get his championship and MVP.
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Post#550 » by frothbrain » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:31 am

Houston can outbid Cavs with Gordon and their non-guaranteed contracts but Morey won't.
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Post#551 » by newyorker4ever » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:32 am

Bklyn&company wrote:
chs234 wrote:FWIW- This trade between the Knicks and Cavs works straight up. No need to add in Love or a 3rd team.

Cavs get- Carmelo Anthony
Knicks get- Iman Shumpert (2 years, 10.3 mil per), Channing Frye (1 year, 7.4 mil), Richard Jefferson (2 years, 2.5 mil), Kay Felder (2 years, 1.3 mil)

The return the Knicks are getting is so bad they could probably easily sneak a 2020 Cleveland first round pick in there.

This trade would EASILY be the Knicks best option, and it's also the best option for the Cavs because they keep Love and add Carmelo.
yup... have been posting this for weeks... its a simple trade... win for both sides...

We can also buy out RJ (pennies), waive Frye...


My trade is even more simple then yours.

Cavs get--Melo

Knicks get--Love


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Post#552 » by AmazingJason » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:32 am

Amsterdam wrote:
Bklyn&company wrote:
chs234 wrote:FWIW- This trade between the Knicks and Cavs works straight up. No need to add in Love or a 3rd team.

Cavs get- Carmelo Anthony
Knicks get- Iman Shumpert (2 years, 10.3 mil per), Channing Frye (1 year, 7.4 mil), Richard Jefferson (2 years, 2.5 mil), Kay Felder (2 years, 1.3 mil)

The return the Knicks are getting is so bad they could probably easily sneak a 2020 Cleveland first round pick in there.

This trade would EASILY be the Knicks best option, and it's also the best option for the Cavs because they keep Love and add Carmelo.
yup... have been posting this for weeks... its a simple trade... win for both sides...

We can also buy out RJ (pennies), waive Frye...



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Channing Frye knows firsthand the wisdom of Jeff Hornacek
By Marc Berman June 14, 2016 | 10:46pm

CLEVELAND — Channing Frye had one of his best and most enjoyable seasons in 2013-14, playing in Phoenix for Jeff Hornacek.

The Suns won 48 games as the surprise team in the league under the then-rookie head coach. Frye, now a Cavaliers reserve, reminisced about his season in the Valley of the Sun with the new Knicks coach.

“Great guy, great coach,” Frye told The Post before Game 5 Sunday. “I thought he did a great job of getting the most of a young team, being able to inspire guys to play hard on a consistent basis and put guys in situations where [they] could flourish and learn. He’s a defensive-minded coach, but also wants to makes sure guys are out and running and playing the right way.”

Frye, a Knicks lottery pick in 2005 out of Arizona, was surprised how easily Hornacek adapted to the job. Frye played four seasons in Phoenix, the last with Hornacek.

“He wasn’t like a rookie coach,” Frye said. “He’s wise beyond his years. I think he’ll do a great job in New York. He’s not worried about the pressure, not worried about anything other than winning and making his players better. He does a good job of being a player’s coach but also at the same time demanding excellence and playing hard every single night. I’d vouch for Jeff every day.”

Reinventing his game, Frye became a 3-point shooter who thrived in Hornacek’s high-tempo, pick-and-roll-heavy offense. Hornacek plans to run the triangle with the Knicks, but with spacing tweaks and more pick-and-rolls.

“We won 48 games, so he was doing something right,” Frye said. “Goran [Dragic] and I had the No. 1-rated screen and roll. [Eric] Bledsoe and Miles Plumee were doing great things. We were 10th in scoring for a team that wasn’t supposed to win 10 games. It was pretty damn good.”

At least for that one season. Frye left as a free agent, and the Suns lost other cogs that put them into a spiral that led to Hornacek’s dismissal last February with a 14-35 record.


You can totally tell Frye was a teacher's pet in grade school :roll:
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Post#553 » by Bill Pidto » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:32 am

Rotten Apple wrote:
Bill Pidto wrote:
Rotten Apple wrote:
For some reason this fan base isn't seeing this. Add in keeping Lee and KP is up for a super extension soon and you're cap strapped considering the cap isn't likely to move much the next few seasons.

Our team is basically KP, Willy, Noah, Lee, Timmy, Frank and Baker going forward.

That's depressing as f*ck


How is that depressing asf, bro? You're delusional. The team has more young talent than it's had since you were in diapers. Lee is more than moveable. 3 more years for Noah will fly by as the Knicks rebuild and grow from within. Stop making it sound like the team is doomed when they're in a great spot.

Let's see how depressed you are next year when these kids are looking good running the floor, sharing the ball and playing some defense.


And losing.

We're not in a great spot at all.

We have no President or GM worthy of putting faith in, our Head Coach is essentially a lame duck.

All yall care about sharing the ball, I want to win.

We don't have a legit top player on our team once we trade Melo.

We're literally clinging onto Hardaway, Willy, KP and Frank as a young core.

That's depressing.


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Post#554 » by AmazingJason » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:34 am

yesimmad wrote:
AmazingJason wrote:
yesimmad wrote:
Why waste the roster spot. Send him to Westchester.


Damn, Melo would beast there. Probably put up 50 PPG.

Houston would regret not giving us Qi and Hartenstein :x

He'd finally get his championship and MVP.


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Post#555 » by Adelheid » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:35 am

These long contracts we are having now and are being offered with -- its quite nauseating to look at. Disgusting.
They arent tradeable much either.
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Post#556 » by Amsterdam » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:35 am

AmazingJason wrote:
Amsterdam wrote:
Bklyn&company wrote:yup... have been posting this for weeks... its a simple trade... win for both sides...

We can also buy out RJ (pennies), waive Frye...



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Channing Frye knows firsthand the wisdom of Jeff Hornacek
By Marc Berman June 14, 2016 | 10:46pm

CLEVELAND — Channing Frye had one of his best and most enjoyable seasons in 2013-14, playing in Phoenix for Jeff Hornacek.

The Suns won 48 games as the surprise team in the league under the then-rookie head coach. Frye, now a Cavaliers reserve, reminisced about his season in the Valley of the Sun with the new Knicks coach.

“Great guy, great coach,” Frye told The Post before Game 5 Sunday. “I thought he did a great job of getting the most of a young team, being able to inspire guys to play hard on a consistent basis and put guys in situations where [they] could flourish and learn. He’s a defensive-minded coach, but also wants to makes sure guys are out and running and playing the right way.”

Frye, a Knicks lottery pick in 2005 out of Arizona, was surprised how easily Hornacek adapted to the job. Frye played four seasons in Phoenix, the last with Hornacek.

“He wasn’t like a rookie coach,” Frye said. “He’s wise beyond his years. I think he’ll do a great job in New York. He’s not worried about the pressure, not worried about anything other than winning and making his players better. He does a good job of being a player’s coach but also at the same time demanding excellence and playing hard every single night. I’d vouch for Jeff every day.”

Reinventing his game, Frye became a 3-point shooter who thrived in Hornacek’s high-tempo, pick-and-roll-heavy offense. Hornacek plans to run the triangle with the Knicks, but with spacing tweaks and more pick-and-rolls.

“We won 48 games, so he was doing something right,” Frye said. “Goran [Dragic] and I had the No. 1-rated screen and roll. [Eric] Bledsoe and Miles Plumee were doing great things. We were 10th in scoring for a team that wasn’t supposed to win 10 games. It was pretty damn good.”

At least for that one season. Frye left as a free agent, and the Suns lost other cogs that put them into a spiral that led to Hornacek’s dismissal last February with a 14-35 record.


You can totally tell Frye was a teacher's pet in grade school :roll:


He's got that look.... :D
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Post#557 » by Buttah304 » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:37 am

Rotten Apple wrote:
Bill Pidto wrote:
Rotten Apple wrote:
For some reason this fan base isn't seeing this. Add in keeping Lee and KP is up for a super extension soon and you're cap strapped considering the cap isn't likely to move much the next few seasons.

Our team is basically KP, Willy, Noah, Lee, Timmy, Frank and Baker going forward.

That's depressing as f*ck


How is that depressing asf, bro? You're delusional. The team has more young talent than it's had since you were in diapers. Lee is more than moveable. 3 more years for Noah will fly by as the Knicks rebuild and grow from within. Stop making it sound like the team is doomed when they're in a great spot.

Let's see how depressed you are next year when these kids are looking good running the floor, sharing the ball and playing some defense.


And losing.

We're not in a great spot at all.

We have no President or GM worthy of putting faith in, our Head Coach is essentially a lame duck.

All yall care about sharing the ball, I want to win.

We don't have a legit top player on our team once we trade Melo.

We're literally clinging onto Hardaway, Willy, KP and Frank as a young core.

That's depressing.


We have a potential cornerstone piece in KP who is 21. A very promising big in Willy at 23. We literally just drafted Frank who is 18 and we got an improving player in THJ who is 25. The icing on the cake is the fact that we are probably a lock to get a top 5 pick next year and that player could have a huge impact on the franchise.

Yet somehow this sounds depressing to you?

You talk about sharing the ball as if it's mutually exclusive with winning. Every single Knicks fan should want to see an unselfish style of Basketball. A brand of Basketball where we can ISO based on mismatches and instill an offense based on strong player movement.

Melo has been here for 7 years. And I fully supported the trade when it happened. To this day I have no problem saying he's one of the best scorers I have ever seen. But what does "we don't have one legit player mean" when Melo is gone.

Are you actually implying that this version of Melo after witnessing seven years of him is a "legit player." He's inefficient, has a terrible shot selection, plays zero defense, cannot run in transition (unless you call a trailing 3 running) and does not make players around him better.

All I know is this is by far the most youth that we have had in a very long time and to top it off we are fortunate to have all of our 1st round picks moving forward.

If that's "depressing" to you after all these years of being a franchise who never gave a damn about our future then I actually feel bad for you.
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Re: Melo Trade Thread #? - We all know nothing (Upd PG 7 Deal Close?) 

Post#558 » by Crunchknicks1 » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:41 am

I agree we have frank thj Prozingis wille Dotson baker all of our first round picks and whatever we get from melo. That's not bad from where we came from.
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Post#559 » by Crunchknicks1 » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:43 am

Say we get hackless add him to what we have. That's a knick team we have not had sense I can remember as fair as youth
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Post#560 » by frothbrain » Sun Jul 9, 2017 3:44 am

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