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Re: Ex-Knicks, Sh**posts, and Old Trades - OH MY! 

Post#561 » by Guano » Sat Dec 28, 2024 5:58 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:RJ helped us get OG
Randle helped us get KAT

Great moves, and they both helped us get where we are at.


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Post#562 » by Guano » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:01 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:KAT is +201 on the season, Randle is +48 (Reid is +51), this time last year KAT was +169 for the Wolves and they were 23-7.


Randle is a v6 Camaro and KAT is a Porsche GT3 RS.


These numbers are a great example of why us fans that wanted Naz more than kat in a Randle deal, while wrong, are still justified. He is a better player than Randle. Thank you nodope.

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Post#563 » by Deeeez Knicks » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:01 pm

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The Raptors wanted both players and both had value. IQ was probably valued more at the time, but RJ was also valued positively.

It's debatable, but I don't care whether RJ was valued mildly positively, mildly negatively, or just thrown in as salary filler.

IQ was not "probably" valued more. He was valued more.





RJ is really just a deflection, nobody in this thread wants him back over OG, nor did anyone crash out when he was traded. The KAT trade saw the ultimate implosion of Team Villain and why this thread is here in the first place.


Yup, even RJ supporters are happy with OG and the trade. Thank you RJ and IQ for being valuable enough to get a player like OG and Leon for making it happen.
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Re: Ex-Knicks, Sh**posts, and Old Trades - OH MY! 

Post#564 » by Guano » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:06 pm

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Chanel Bomber wrote:IQ was the centerpiece of the OG trade. We can speculate about RJ's value in the trade but the Knicks likely could've struck a deal without him - but not without Quick.

And Randle helped us a lot more than RJ. It's pretty much indisputable that Randle helped us build this foundation. It's at best questionable that RJ ever did after his sophomore season.


Both IQ and RJ were needed to get the deal done. RJ has actually put up better stats and been more efficient then IQ as a Raptor

RJs stats as a Raptor:
22.6ppg, 6.6rpg, 5.1apg, 51%fg, 37%fg, 58.4% TS vs 56% for iq

I mean, his stats are pretty good and he has taken some steps forward.

IQ was the centerpiece of the trade. RJ wasn't valued nearly as much. To suggest otherwise is just revisionist history. What happened after that trade is irrelevant to this discussion.


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Post#565 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:07 pm

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:KAT is +201 on the season, Randle is +48 (Reid is +51), this time last year KAT was +169 for the Wolves and they were 23-7.


Randle is a v6 Camaro and KAT is a Porsche GT3 RS.


These numbers are a great example of why us fans that wanted Naz more than kat in a Randle deal, while wrong, are still justified. He is a better player than Randle. Thank you nodope.

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Post#566 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:08 pm

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:It's debatable, but I don't care whether RJ was valued mildly positively, mildly negatively, or just thrown in as salary filler.

IQ was not "probably" valued more. He was valued more.





RJ is really just a deflection, nobody in this thread wants him back over OG, nor did anyone crash out when he was traded. The KAT trade saw the ultimate implosion of Team Villain and why this thread is here in the first place.


Yup, even RJ supporters are happy with OG and the trade. Thank you RJ and IQ for being valuable enough to get a player like OG and Leon for making it happen.


For a select few, the idea that you can be supportive of a player while they are a Knick without being a total stan and then wish them well in their journeys produces a form of cognitive dissonance that short-circuits their brain.

Any position not painted in strictly black and white terms does not compute. They oppose nuanced outlooks and those phantoms in their minds become the windmills they feel compelled to tilt against. They are battles that don't exist unless they manufacture them.
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Post#567 » by Guano » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:10 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Guano wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:KAT is +201 on the season, Randle is +48 (Reid is +51), this time last year KAT was +169 for the Wolves and they were 23-7.


Randle is a v6 Camaro and KAT is a Porsche GT3 RS.


These numbers are a great example of why us fans that wanted Naz more than kat in a Randle deal, while wrong, are still justified. He is a better player than Randle. Thank you nodope.

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You studying under the dark arts of Greenie is an awful time for the board.


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Post#568 » by Guano » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:12 pm

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DOT wrote:Dude who spends all his time talking about someone claims he doesn't care lol

It was a win-win trade. OG is a better fit for us and he's playing well, and RJ is playing really well for Toronto. Dudes need to move on, but I guess if they could, we wouldn't have this thread for them to seethe in.




This thread didn't exist when RJ was traded for OG, because we're all good with it and realize OG is better. This thread is to drive home the point that KAT is better than Randle, and we won that trade, let's not lose sight of that.


I'll stop posting here when the white flag is waved on Randle, because it should have been weeks ago, just like it was on RJ for OG.


All of the barbs skated. Rj is buns. Boring as hell to watch hoop and a loser. Always has been and always will be. But none of them admitted it.

The best thing hell ever do in his career is be part of the trade that brought us OG.

Well and help the Raps lose games. That's enjoyable too.
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Post#569 » by Kampuchea » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:16 pm

RJ stans appear to be in shambles

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Post#570 » by Capn'O » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:17 pm

RJ is starting. IQ was starting when he was healthy. Randle is starting. Donte will start if he gets it together.

These teams wanted these guys.
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Post#571 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:24 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:RJ helped us get OG
Randle helped us get KAT

Great moves, and they both helped us get where we are at.

IQ was the centerpiece of the OG trade. We can speculate about RJ's value in the trade but the Knicks likely could've struck a deal without him - but not without Quick.

And Randle helped us a lot more than RJ. It's pretty much indisputable that Randle helped us build this foundation. It's at best questionable that RJ ever did after his sophomore season.

I don’t even know what RJ did for us here besides creating a weird cult :lol:
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Post#572 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:26 pm

Kampuchea wrote:RJ stans appear to be in shambles

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Crashing out :lol:
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Post#573 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:26 pm

Guano wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
DOT wrote:Dude who spends all his time talking about someone claims he doesn't care lol

It was a win-win trade. OG is a better fit for us and he's playing well, and RJ is playing really well for Toronto. Dudes need to move on, but I guess if they could, we wouldn't have this thread for them to seethe in.




This thread didn't exist when RJ was traded for OG, because we're all good with it and realize OG is better. This thread is to drive home the point that KAT is better than Randle, and we won that trade, let's not lose sight of that.


I'll stop posting here when the white flag is waved on Randle, because it should have been weeks ago, just like it was on RJ for OG.


All of the barbs skated. Rj is buns. Boring as hell to watch hoop and a loser. Always has been and always will be. But none of them admitted it.

The best thing hell ever do in his career is be part of the trade that brought us OG.

Well and help the Raps lose games. That's enjoyable too.



Nobody crashed out over RJ, team villain literally imploded on itself leaving behind this thread which is the black hole to catch all the whining about KAT in its event horizon. I went full Neil DeGrasse Tyson on this one, my game is robust.

I liked and argued for RJ, then I stopped when we got OG, because he's better. My only concerns with OG were health, outside of that I'm good. So good in fact if you go back, you'll see I wanted RJ traded if it meant Randle was traded after, my disdain for Randle's game is that pure. I got what I wanted, which is KAT, so this is a victory lap and I want the focus on Randle where it belongs. Because Randle is why this thread is here.
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Post#574 » by Chanel Bomber » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:26 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:It's debatable, but I don't care whether RJ was valued mildly positively, mildly negatively, or just thrown in as salary filler.

IQ was not "probably" valued more. He was valued more.





RJ is really just a deflection, nobody in this thread wants him back over OG, nor did anyone crash out when he was traded. The KAT trade saw the ultimate implosion of Team Villain and why this thread is here in the first place.


Yup, even RJ supporters are happy with OG and the trade. Thank you RJ and IQ for being valuable enough to get a player like OG and Leon for making it happen.

You proactively implied that RJ and Randle's contributions were on par, and suggested that we got OG thanks to RJ.

I find it entirely disingenuous on your part.

Randle was a much, much better player than RJ for us. And IQ was the centerpiece of the OG trade.

You're just being dishonest here, sorry for calling you out on that but let's call it what it is.
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Post#575 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:28 pm

KAT is playing well, Randle is on a winning team, RJ is still a losing toxic player. Couldn’t have scripted this better!
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Post#576 » by Kampuchea » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:29 pm

Capn'O wrote:RJ is starting. IQ was starting when he was healthy. Randle is starting. Donte will start if he gets it together.

These teams wanted these guys.


I think it was more of trying to get anything before the player left or they got a massive tax bill.
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Post#577 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:32 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:KAT is playing well, Randle is on a winning team, RJ is still a losing toxic player. Couldn’t have scripted this better!




Still won't say KAT is better than Randle, this is tragic. This must be what sham felt like when his co-defendant got big mac, fries and a coke in the interrogation room, seeing you hang onto the bum like this is painful.


Is KAT better than Randle, yes or no.
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Post#578 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:33 pm

Guano wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
DOT wrote:Dude who spends all his time talking about someone claims he doesn't care lol

It was a win-win trade. OG is a better fit for us and he's playing well, and RJ is playing really well for Toronto. Dudes need to move on, but I guess if they could, we wouldn't have this thread for them to seethe in.




This thread didn't exist when RJ was traded for OG, because we're all good with it and realize OG is better. This thread is to drive home the point that KAT is better than Randle, and we won that trade, let's not lose sight of that.


I'll stop posting here when the white flag is waved on Randle, because it should have been weeks ago, just like it was on RJ for OG.


All of the barbs skated. Rj is buns. Boring as hell to watch hoop and a loser. Always has been and always will be. But none of them admitted it.

The best thing hell ever do in his career is be part of the trade that brought us OG.

Well and help the Raps lose games. That's enjoyable too.

Thats why we stepping on their necks 8-)
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Post#580 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Dec 28, 2024 6:36 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:KAT is playing well, Randle is on a winning team, RJ is still a losing toxic player. Couldn’t have scripted this better!




Still won't say KAT is better than Randle, this is tragic. This must be what sham felt like when his co-defendant got big mac, fries and a coke in the interrogation room, seeing you hang onto the bum like this is painful.


Is KAT better than Randle, yes or no.

Admit you were wrong about RJ first. You tryna fight your way around the bush when we haven’t gotten any admissions from the barbz yet!
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