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[WOJ] Knicks Extend Hart for 4/81

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Re: [WOJ] Knicks Extend Hart for 4/81 

Post#61 » by knicksfan974 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:20 am

Good deal. Hart was always a keeper and a kind of player you love to have on your team. Let's go!
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Re: [WOJ] Knicks Extend Hart for 4/81 

Post#62 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:59 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
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ctorres wrote:Are we gonna pay everybody and trade a bunch of these guys for a star or two? I wonder if there is still a chance we make a trade for a Paul George or even a James Harden. Signing a bunch of guys to $20m/yr contracts allows you to trade them for guys making $40-60m/yr

Or maybe they're giving this roster one more year to make a run before making major changes.


No, you were right with the first one.

But no to George and Harden. Who are too past this core group's average age.

There's going to be a much younger star wanting to play with Brunson and crew. Some max'd off of his rookie extension right for the picking uber talented but disappointing stud. One who never rooted himself in his city, but publically wants the bright lights of Broadway.

Hint: his name starts at the opposite end of the alphabet. 8-)


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Re: [WOJ] Knicks Extend Hart for 4/81 

Post#63 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:01 am

Some posters: "We need continuity!"
Knicks resign guys to get continuity
Other posters: "Not enough cheap players! This team sucks!"

Whatever
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Re: [WOJ] Knicks Extend Hart for 4/81 

Post#64 » by Zenzibar » Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:48 am

8-)
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Re: [WOJ] Knicks Extend Hart for 4/81 

Post#65 » by nedleeds » Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:55 pm

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1/2 a decade of 28 year old Josh Hart ladies and gentleman.

Young Sam Rose gets a new lambo and we now have

A roster of seven players under contract for a combined $129,232,268 (130) - Brunson, Barrett, Hart, Randle, Robinson, Donte and Grimes.

IQ resigns at 18-20 brings the payroll to ~$150 the super **** you apron is $190.

For a team without a top 10 player on the roster.



The math isn’t bad and won’t be bad until we get to time to re-up Randle/Brunson.

Let's also not forget the average NBA team salary going into 2023-24 is over $160mm, and the salar floor is over $120mm. Any playoff team is going to be around the luxury tax mark of $165mm and likely over it to some extent. We punted on talent consolidation this offseason, so there will for sure be pressure to do something over the next 12 months.


We have Dolan's trillionaire tile floor garage and we've filled it with Toyota Camries. We got good deals on them, but we aren't going to compete in any race or truly get laid. The dust has settled and we have no top 10 players.

Again if these weren't mostly CAA clients I'd believe they had some 9D Chess plan to get a top 10 player. But I think it's mostly just Rose glad handing Dolan who will accept 1st and 2nd round exits. In return Leon Rose and his son scrape cash into the CAA coffers.
Zenzibar wrote:Nevertheless, Payton is not a finished product yet and unless the team moves him in a couple of weeks, I anticipate him trending upward with this coaching staff.
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Re: [WOJ] Knicks Extend Hart for 4/81 

Post#66 » by robillionaire » Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:09 pm

rip team tank

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Re: [WOJ] Knicks Extend Hart for 4/81 

Post#67 » by dakomish23 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:09 pm

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Scary how they all turned into ghost during the playoffs


Brunson?


The bench


Hart was pretty awesome during the CLE series. :dontknow:

11.6 PPG 7.8 RPG 1.4 APG 1.2 SPG
56.1% FG 45.5% 3PT 77.8% FT

He was also the only other player who showed up in game 6 vs MIA.

he wasn’t good for most of the MIA series though. Was getting cooked by Butler if I remember correctly
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Post#68 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:36 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
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Brunson?


The bench


Hart was pretty awesome during the CLE series. :dontknow:

11.6 PPG 7.8 RPG 1.4 APG 1.2 SPG
56.1% FG 45.5% 3PT 77.8% FT

He was also the only other player who showed up in game 6 vs MIA.

he wasn’t good for most of the MIA series though. Was getting cooked by Butler if I remember correctly



Problem in the Miami series is that he became gun shy, which is why he's been traded so much to begin with. Once he gets nervous and afraid to shoot the three his value as a player plummets, he shot 24% from three and was passing them up constantly.
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Re: [WOJ] Knicks Extend Hart for 4/81 

Post#69 » by WargamesX » Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:39 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:I like it. This is a good team. One star away from a contender with assets to get one. I'm here for it. Best team in the last 2 decades. LFGK


I feel bad for anyone who doesn't realize this is probably the best Knicks team from the last 2 decades. :nod:
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Re: [WOJ] Knicks Extend Hart for 4/81 

Post#70 » by robillionaire » Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:45 pm

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Jalen Bluntson wrote:I like it. This is a good team. One star away from a contender with assets to get one. I'm here for it. Best team in the last 2 decades. LFGK


I feel bad for anyone who doesn't realize this is probably the best Knicks team from the last 2 decades. :nod:


I agree but in fairness that's not exactly saying much :lol:
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Re: [WOJ] Knicks Extend Hart for 4/81 

Post#71 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:50 pm

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I think IQ's days are numbered.


maybe if the star trade emerges this year but if not they're gonna have to pay him rather than lose him for nothing.

knicks better hurry up and find something though because they're only gonna have grimes on a rookie scale deal and a bunch of picks that aint gonna be much. they had 4 rookie scale players last summer. now they have 2.

edit - just saw this in another thread. make that 1 rookie scale player.

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I'm just glad it looks like we're keeping iq

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Re: [WOJ] Knicks Extend Hart for 4/81 

Post#72 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:53 pm

robillionaire wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:I like it. This is a good team. One star away from a contender with assets to get one. I'm here for it. Best team in the last 2 decades. LFGK


I feel bad for anyone who doesn't realize this is probably the best Knicks team from the last 2 decades. :nod:


I agree but in fairness that's not exactly saying much :lol:


The big picture says a lot but, point taken. :lol: WE SUCKED ALMOST THE ENTIRE TIME!! :eek1:
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Re: [WOJ] Knicks Extend Hart for 4/81 

Post#73 » by j4remi » Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:41 pm

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Re: [WOJ] Knicks Extend Hart for 4/81 

Post#74 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:47 pm

Hart got the contract pretty much everyone expected, at a price, after adjusting for the uptick in cap, is pretty much where it should be, and now the doom patrol members are out in force that the Knicks are a .500 team, oh noes, no flexibility, no one will want a single player etc etc.

Pretty fancy thoughts for fandom of a team that absolutely sucked ass for 20 years.

I'll manage to somehow enjoy a .500 or so ballclub with decent players who aren't complete assh*les for a few years. Well, I'll probably just try to antagonize people.
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Re: [WOJ] Knicks Extend Hart for 4/81 

Post#75 » by The Lamma » Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:19 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:Hart got the contract pretty much everyone expected, at a price, after adjusting for the uptick in cap, is pretty much where it should be, and now the doom patrol members are out in force that the Knicks are a .500 team, oh noes, no flexibility, no one will want a single player etc etc.

Pretty fancy thoughts for fandom of a team that absolutely sucked ass for 20 years.

I'll manage to somehow enjoy a .500 or so ballclub with decent players who aren't complete assh*les for a few years. Well, I'll probably just try to antagonize people.


I can't see any reason why we can't at least duplicate last years record. Especially considering we went 17-8 after acquiring Hart, including the last two losses where both Brunson and Randle were sitting. None of these guys are over the hill or declining. Most of them haven't even peaked yet. We have good chemistry and continuity. So I think we'll be well over .500 again and finish up around 50 wins
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Re: [WOJ] Knicks Extend Hart for 4/81 

Post#76 » by aggo » Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:52 pm

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Second round team where nobody takes up more than 22% of capspace. More evidence for my theory that Brock Aller is the mastermind.

rj making more than jalen


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Re: [WOJ] Knicks Extend Hart for 4/81 

Post#77 » by Synciere » Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:22 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:we plan on operating as an above the cap team for the foreseeable future so the $$$ don't really matter. By not opting out he helped us bring in Donte.

I don't really like this move if this is the team we move forward with. We don't have enough talent.

However, if we do lose significant depth b/c we do address the talent issue (i.e. Joel Embiid, Doncic :roll: ), then any coach would like Donte and Hart as guard/forwards off the bench - even at this price point, especially considering the above post and rising cap.


At some point you can’t keep enough dollars free in order to keep max slots open every year, and it’s not like these guys are waiting to get to free agency. They’re getting their hometown bonuses and then demanding trades, so free agency isn’t the way to go. The Knicks might actually be playing this just right. It’s almost shocking. We don’t have a single contract in the top 50 in the entire league. Just keep adding value contracts that are easily readable and hope we can add talent via trade.
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Re: [WOJ] Knicks Extend Hart for 4/81 

Post#78 » by god shammgod » Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:54 pm

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Post#79 » by nedleeds » Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:16 pm

robillionaire wrote:rip team tank

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Long live team treadmill!

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Post#80 » by nedleeds » Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:18 pm

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Jalen Bluntson wrote:I like it. This is a good team. One star away from a contender with assets to get one. I'm here for it. Best team in the last 2 decades. LFGK


I feel bad for anyone who doesn't realize this is probably the best Knicks team from the last 2 decades. :nod:

I feel bad for any zygote who didn't watch us get to two Finals.

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