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Re: RJ Barrett Appreciation Thread 

Post#61 » by DOT » Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:00 am

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Galvationknicks wrote:Percentage to the cap.......

"Value contract" :lol:

In 2 years the cap is projected to go to 170M+
His contract will be 12% of the cap that's what you want in a role player

You don't understand what the word "value" means, do you?
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Re: RJ Barrett Appreciation Thread 

Post#62 » by KnicksGadfly » Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:04 am

I am a bit sad now I think about RJ. He had the right attitude, had the right work ethic, was honestly a good guy, especially when you think about the shat we went through with this franchise with some of the guys we had. Just couldn't turn the corner, and we really needed him to step up.

I'm kinda relieved too, as a Knicks fan, to be honest. This was year 5, and he had signed a big contract, too. Maybe he'll do better in Toronto, but he might not get as much shots with Barnes and Siakam and IQ hopefully starting.
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Re: RJ Barrett Appreciation Thread 

Post#63 » by dakomish23 » Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:12 am

Last night I was looking at his game log. Same thing kept popping up.

ORL
6-12 2PT
1-5 3PT
7-17 FG

OKC
4-7 2PT
1-7 3PT
5-14 FG

MIL
6-9 2PT
2-5 3PT
8-14 FG

BKN
5-10 2PT
0-1 3PT
5-11 FG

LAL
3-8 2PT
0-2 3PT
3-10 FG

LAC
5-8 2PT
2-7 3PT
7-15 FG

PHX
5-8 2PT
1-2 3PT
6-10 FG

TOR
8-13 2PT
3-8 3PT
11-21 FG

BOS (the game he finally broke out of his slump)
7-11 2PT
2-5 3PT

Kid’s 3 went out the window most games and he was heaving way too many of them despite that. From 2 he was solid.

So if you’re looking for reasons to be positive about his future, that’s a big one. If he cuts back the 3’s focuses on inside the arc and continues his improved FT shooting, it will dramatically change his offensive impact

But will he?
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Post#64 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:22 am

Does that make this a Chanel Bomber Deppreciation Thread?
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Post#65 » by rajajackal » Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:36 am

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RJ was stopping Randle? That’s a reach.

no, they were just a really bad fit together. either one would have looked better with the other gone. i've always advocated breaking them up, whichever one you kept. but i am glad we kept the more talented of the two. we can always trade him later on if we get a better look up front
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Re: RJ Barrett Appreciation Thread 

Post#66 » by Chanel Bomber » Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:20 am

RJ has the second-worst 2P FG% among the 58 players averaging 9 or more 2P FGAs per game.

For as bad as he is from 3, he's even worse from 2-point range.

He's just horrible all around in terms of efficiency, besides at the line.

RJ should be coming off the bench playing against back-ups and pushing the ball in transition. He's good at that. But he's obviously not a good jumpshooter (and that's despite being generally left open), he still doesn't have a reliable pull-up, he's not good in catch-and-shoot situations, he's not efficient running the PNR, he's obviously dreadful in transition. It's a horror show.
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Re: RJ Barrett Appreciation Thread 

Post#67 » by robillionaire » Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:23 am

Chanel Bomber wrote:RJ has the second-worst 2P FG% among the 58 players averaging 9 or more 2P FGAs per game.

For as bad as he is from 3, he's even worse from 2-point range.

He's just horrible all around in terms of efficiency, besides at the line.

RJ should be coming off the bench playing against back-ups and pushing the ball in transition. He's good at that. But he's obviously not a good jumpshooter (and that's despite being generally left open), he still doesn't have a reliable pull-up, he's not good in catch-and-shoot situations, he's not efficient running the PNR, he's obviously dreadful in transition. It's a horror show.


He will be coming off the bench by the end of next season. Quote it. Bookmark it.
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Post#68 » by Tron Carter » Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:34 am

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if only we didn’t extend RJ we’d still have IQ
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Re: RJ Barrett Appreciation Thread 

Post#69 » by DOT » Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:42 am

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this guy really cost us IQ

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if only we didn’t extend RJ we’d still have IQ

Whatever you need to tell yourself to get all worked up

The fact we were able to extend Hart after extending RJ proves you're wrong, but you don't care about facts, just agendas

The fact is, this FO chose Hart over Quick, not RJ. I'm sorry you can't accept that.
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Re: RJ Barrett Appreciation Thread 

Post#70 » by Tron Carter » Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:52 am

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if only we didn’t extend RJ we’d still have IQ

Whatever you need to tell yourself to get all worked up

The fact we were able to extend Hart after extending RJ proves you're wrong, but you don't care about facts, just agendas

The fact is, this FO chose Hart over Quick, not RJ. I'm sorry you can't accept that.


I’ll ignore that :lol:
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Re: RJ Barrett Appreciation Thread 

Post#71 » by 8516knicks » Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:01 am

Loved his good games. But he's the reason I'd be bald without hair transplants. :lol: Good Luck RJ. :nod:
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Re: RJ Barrett Appreciation Thread 

Post#72 » by 8516knicks » Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:02 am

Tron Carter wrote:
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this guy really cost us IQ

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if only we didn’t extend RJ we’d still have IQ


But it would be under 120. :lol:
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Re: RJ Barrett Appreciation Thread 

Post#73 » by 8516knicks » Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:07 am

Well, damn. No IQ appreciation thread? That 43 pt fill in for Brun game is worth one on its own.
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Re: RJ Barrett Appreciation Thread 

Post#74 » by KnicksGadfly » Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:13 am

8516knicks wrote:Well, damn. No IQ appreciation thread? That 43 pt fill in for Brun game is worth one on its own.


I made an IQ thread. Should be way longer than the RJ thread imo but it is what it is.
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Post#75 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Dec 31, 2023 6:36 am

Everyone LOVES RJ, the guy. He's has been groomed by his parents to deal with the media since he was 12 years old, as Jeremy Cohen pointed out in the KFS podcast. He and Macri also agreed with many of his here that RJ was not a very good basketball player.

The real catch for the Raptors was IQ.
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Post#76 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:06 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:Everyone LOVES RJ, the guy. He's has been groomed by his parents to deal with the media since he was 12 years old, as Jeremy Cohen pointed out in the KFS podcast. He and Macri also agreed with many of his here that RJ was not a very good basketball player.

The real catch for the Raptors was IQ.


Hey man, I know losing RJ has hit you hard. You'll be OK. It may take time, but the pain will fade. Stay strong
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Re: RJ Barrett Appreciation Thread 

Post#77 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sun Dec 31, 2023 7:07 am

Chanel Bomber wrote:RJ has the second-worst 2P FG% among the 58 players averaging 9 or more 2P FGAs per game.

For as bad as he is from 3, he's even worse from 2-point range.

He's just horrible all around in terms of efficiency, besides at the line.

RJ should be coming off the bench playing against back-ups and pushing the ball in transition. He's good at that. But he's obviously not a good jumpshooter (and that's despite being generally left open), he still doesn't have a reliable pull-up, he's not good in catch-and-shoot situations, he's not efficient running the PNR, he's obviously dreadful in transition. It's a horror show.


His 2pt% the last 2 years is 49%. What if he maintains that, hits 80 from the line, and somehow generates more free throws? WHERE WILL YOUR TS% GOD BE THEN, CHANEL? WHAT THEN? PS. put some respect on Shai's name.
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Post#78 » by Chanel Bomber » Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:25 pm

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:RJ has the second-worst 2P FG% among the 58 players averaging 9 or more 2P FGAs per game.

For as bad as he is from 3, he's even worse from 2-point range.

He's just horrible all around in terms of efficiency, besides at the line.

RJ should be coming off the bench playing against back-ups and pushing the ball in transition. He's good at that. But he's obviously not a good jumpshooter (and that's despite being generally left open), he still doesn't have a reliable pull-up, he's not good in catch-and-shoot situations, he's not efficient running the PNR, he's obviously dreadful in transition. It's a horror show.


His 2pt% the last 2 years is 49%. What if he maintains that, hits 80 from the line, and somehow generates more free throws? WHERE WILL YOUR TS% GOD BE THEN, CHANEL? WHAT THEN? PS. put some respect on Shai's name.

Well his 2P% of .495 last year was by far his career best and it still ranked 10th worst among the 61 players who averaged more than 9 2FGAs.

Among the 50 players who averaged more than 9 2FGAs and 2 3FGAs (basically filtering out centers), he had the 6th worst 3P%. So the issue is that his 3-point shooting didn't (and doesn't) make up for his 2-point shooting and vice versa.

For RJ to go to the line more often he will have to become a better finisher around the rim. Or develop a reliable floater. Defenders are fine with contesting without fouling him because the value of the attempts just isn't that damaging.

He had the 6th-lowest FG% from less than 5 feet among the 53 players averaging more than 5 FGAs from that area last year. This year, he's third-worst among 59 players.

Everywhere you look at, he ranks basically at the bottom of the league in efficiency from the field (besides at the line and in transition).
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Post#79 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:35 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
Chanel Bomber wrote:RJ has the second-worst 2P FG% among the 58 players averaging 9 or more 2P FGAs per game.

For as bad as he is from 3, he's even worse from 2-point range.

He's just horrible all around in terms of efficiency, besides at the line.

RJ should be coming off the bench playing against back-ups and pushing the ball in transition. He's good at that. But he's obviously not a good jumpshooter (and that's despite being generally left open), he still doesn't have a reliable pull-up, he's not good in catch-and-shoot situations, he's not efficient running the PNR, he's obviously dreadful in transition. It's a horror show.


His 2pt% the last 2 years is 49%. What if he maintains that, hits 80 from the line, and somehow generates more free throws? WHERE WILL YOUR TS% GOD BE THEN, CHANEL? WHAT THEN? PS. put some respect on Shai's name.

Well his 2P% of .495 last year was by far his career best and it still ranked 10th worst among the 61 players who averaged more than 9 2FGAs.

Among the 50 players who averaged more than 9 2FGAs and 2 3FGAs (basically filtering out centers), he had the 6th worst 3P%. So the issue is that his 3-point shooting didn't (and doesn't) make up for his 2-point shooting and vice versa.

For RJ to go to the line more often he will have to become a better finisher around the rim. Or develop a reliable floater. Defenders are fine with contesting without fouling him because the value of the attempts just isn't that damaging.

He had the 6th-lowest FG% from less than 5 feet among the 53 players averaging more than 5 FGAs from that area last year. This year, he's third-worst among 59 players.

Everywhere you look at, he ranks basically at the bottom of the league in efficiency from the field (besides at the line and in transition).


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Post#80 » by Chanel Bomber » Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:51 pm

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Chanel Bomber wrote:
GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
His 2pt% the last 2 years is 49%. What if he maintains that, hits 80 from the line, and somehow generates more free throws? WHERE WILL YOUR TS% GOD BE THEN, CHANEL? WHAT THEN? PS. put some respect on Shai's name.

Well his 2P% of .495 last year was by far his career best and it still ranked 10th worst among the 61 players who averaged more than 9 2FGAs.

Among the 50 players who averaged more than 9 2FGAs and 2 3FGAs (basically filtering out centers), he had the 6th worst 3P%. So the issue is that his 3-point shooting didn't (and doesn't) make up for his 2-point shooting and vice versa.

For RJ to go to the line more often he will have to become a better finisher around the rim. Or develop a reliable floater. Defenders are fine with contesting without fouling him because the value of the attempts just isn't that damaging.

He had the 6th-lowest FG% from less than 5 feet among the 53 players averaging more than 5 FGAs from that area last year. This year, he's third-worst among 59 players.

Everywhere you look at, he ranks basically at the bottom of the league in efficiency from the field (besides at the line and in transition).


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