2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 5) -LOTTO 8/25 DRAFT 10/15!

[3toheadmelo]

I thought you were a believer of DX?

My post literally came from DX

I’m good on Okoro. Not much upside there. Will prob be Winslow without the play making.

yet they have him as there #4 ranked prospect

And they're still skeptical of that

Is he a good enough overall scorer to warrant being a top-10 pick? His 16 points per 40 minutes is the lowest scoring rate of any college player currently projected in the top 20.

No thanks

[mpharris36]

My post literally came from DX

I’m good on Okoro. Not much upside there. Will prob be Winslow without the play making.

yet they have him as there #4 ranked prospect

And they're still skeptical of that

Is he a good enough overall scorer to warrant being a top-10 pick? His 16 points per 40 minutes is the lowest scoring rate of any college player currently projected in the top 20.

No thanks

obviously he is considering where they rank him

[moocow007]

I thought you were a believer of DX?

Strengths
- Has ideal physical tools for an NBA wing. Was one of the most impactful defenders in the college game and has All-NBA potential thanks to his excellent lateral quickness, high intensity level and sound technique. Was often tasked with shutting down the point of attack for Auburn, but has the size, strength, length and toughness to defend power forwards as well.
- Has plenty of room to grow offensively, but already shows enough flashes as a ball handler and passer to leave plenty of room for optimism. Attacks the rim with purpose and finishes well inside the paint, while also showing potential operating out of pick-and-roll. Has good court vision, can playmake with either hand and generally shows a high basketball IQ.
- Lauded for his approach to the game. Impacts the game without scoring. Excellent rebounder. Plays a position and role that is extremely hard to find in today's NBA.

My post literally came from DX

I’m good on Okoro. Not much upside there. Will prob be Winslow without the play making.

Winslow without the play making is basically a journeyman role player.

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[moocow007]

The Golden State Warriors are believed to prefer Tyrese Haliburton over LaMelo Ball and Killian Hayes.
The Warriors see Haliburton as a fit due to his elite passing and his ability on defense to defend multiple positions.
"I’ve been told that he has emerged as the No. 1 point guard on the Warriors’ board — yes, above LaMelo Ball and Killian Hayes," writes Connor Letourneau. "If Golden State lands anywhere between No. 2 and No. 5, it will seriously consider Haliburton."
Haliburton could play beside Stephen Curry and also become the primary ball-handler for the second unit.

makes sense they don't need a ball dominant guard.

From all accounts they are the highest on Okongwu and Haliburton.

They should trade down then with the Knicks. Certainly if they seriously want Haliburton.

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[3toheadmelo]

I thought you were a believer of DX?

My post literally came from DX

I’m good on Okoro. Not much upside there. Will prob be Winslow without the play making.

Winslow without the play making is basically a journeyman role player.

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Exactly. Im good on Okoro

[mpharris36]

I thought you were a believer of DX?

My post literally came from DX

I’m good on Okoro. Not much upside there. Will prob be Winslow without the play making.

Winslow without the play making is basically a journeyman role player.

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he is a much better defender than Winslow and his playmaking is actually a plus of his game.

His shooting is a concern and a major area to improve. But I have always been a proponent that shooting is one of the easier things to get better at if you are a hard worker (at least to get to a respectable level).

His ceiling is an Iguodala type player.

[mpharris36]

makes sense they don't need a ball dominant guard.

From all accounts they are the highest on Okongwu and Haliburton.

They should trade down then with the Knicks. Certainly if they seriously want Haliburton.

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im sure they would...they probably would want us to take Wiggins to do it.

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks pick 6th, LaMelo goes #1, Warriors take the Knicks PG again at #5 in Haliburton.

Back To The Knicks Future.

[WargamesX]

Knicks pick 6th, LaMelo goes #1, Warriors take the Knicks PG again at #5 in Haliburton.

Back To The Knicks Future.

Finish the scenario, the Knicks panic and draft Precious Achiuwa......

[WargamesX]

Ok so with 8 teams not returning.... shouldn’t those teams be the only ones in the lottery, or at least have their odds improved. Also they all played different amount of games has their been any discussion of picking a specific uniform number of games to
Base records on for the 8 teams not playing again?

[Deeeez Knicks]

Ok so with 8 teams not returning.... shouldn’t those teams be the only ones in the lottery, or at least have their odds improved. Also they all played different amount of games has their been any discussion of picking a specific uniform number of games to
Base records on for the 8 teams not playing again?

I am not sure how they will work that out, but the Knicks will probably get screwed somehow

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks pick 6th, LaMelo goes #1, Warriors take the Knicks PG again at #5 in Haliburton.

Back To The Knicks Future.

Finish the scenario, the Knicks panic and draft Precious Achiuwa......

[mpharris36]

Knicks pick 6th, LaMelo goes #1, Warriors take the Knicks PG again at #5 in Haliburton.

Back To The Knicks Future.

Finish the scenario, the Knicks panic and draft Precious Achiuwa......

everyone upset except for Melo

[3toheadmelo]

Knicks pick 6th, LaMelo goes #1, Warriors take the Knicks PG again at #5 in Haliburton.

Back To The Knicks Future.

Finish the scenario, the Knicks panic and draft Precious Achiuwa......

everyone upset except for Melo

Hell ya let me get a 6'9 forward with a 7-2 wingspan, 9.15 standing reach. Elite physical tools. Can put the ball on the floor, create his shot, can defend 1-5, above average athletcism, strong rebounder, showed flashes of being a shooter, and is only 20 yrs old. Tons of upside

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[god shammgod]

please warriors take haliburton with the 1st pick. please!!!!!!!! i dare you.

[robillionaire]

The Golden State Warriors are believed to prefer Tyrese Haliburton over LaMelo Ball and Killian Hayes.
The Warriors see Haliburton as a fit due to his elite passing and his ability on defense to defend multiple positions.
"I’ve been told that he has emerged as the No. 1 point guard on the Warriors’ board — yes, above LaMelo Ball and Killian Hayes," writes Connor Letourneau. "If Golden State lands anywhere between No. 2 and No. 5, it will seriously consider Haliburton."
Haliburton could play beside Stephen Curry and also become the primary ball-handler for the second unit.

the stage is set perfectly for them to trade down to us so we can get lamelo

[newyorker4ever]

Frank could be a 12/6 PG and be an asset to most teams with the level of defense he plays, as a starter.

Of course, he'd be a better fit if a team had at least one big scorer.

Mostly, he probably profiles as a bench PG with some ability to back up 2 and 3. Not ideal for the 8th pick, but it happens and life goes on.

It's fairly established the Knicks will draft a PG.
Have that player start, have Frank back him up.

Pick one of DSJr or Trier to stay more than a couple of years, since both are basically scoring guards off the bench. Obviously DSJr is more a PG, Trier a SG, but Knicks can't carry 4 PG's - it's dumb. Edge Trier.

I'd also retain Dotson, since he actually defends and can shoot.
Retaining Dotson or Trier is HIGHLY dependent on how much $ they are asking/get offered by another team, and years.
I don't see a reason to commit to either long term. Meaning 2 year deals better, 3 if it really lowers the price.

As I've said before, there's also an argument for keeping DSJr as your backup PG instead of Frank.

I just figure on a team mostly devoid of players who can defend the perimeter to the extent it can be defended anymore, retain that player(s) at a reasonable. Price. This also depends on who the Knicks draft at PG. If LaMelo, Frank makes more sense. If Haliburton, there's a case for DSJr or Frank, but makes retaining DSJr more likely.

I keep Frank and Dotson no matter who we draft or sign in free agency or trade for. I think Dotson is so underrated by pretty much everyone and Frank was really showing confidence in himself the last 3 weeks or so of the season. We so quickly forget that we all knew Frank was green and young as hellz when we drafted and he was gonna need time and now many have lost the patience in waiting for Frank to develop. Lets not forget how much time he lost to injuries in his first couple of years as well so he lost all that time to adjust to the NBA as well.

[HEZI]

The Golden State Warriors are believed to prefer Tyrese Haliburton over LaMelo Ball and Killian Hayes.
The Warriors see Haliburton as a fit due to his elite passing and his ability on defense to defend multiple positions.
"I’ve been told that he has emerged as the No. 1 point guard on the Warriors’ board — yes, above LaMelo Ball and Killian Hayes," writes Connor Letourneau. "If Golden State lands anywhere between No. 2 and No. 5, it will seriously consider Haliburton."
Haliburton could play beside Stephen Curry and also become the primary ball-handler for the second unit.

the stage is set perfectly for them to trade down to us so we can get lamelo

[mpharris36]

the stage is set perfectly for them to trade down to us so we can get lamelo

curious and would like to get your thoughts.

You are high on Edwards (which I am as well).

And you are down on both LaMelo and Hayes (mostly because both are suspect shooters). Edwards was just as bad but do you think his shot is less broken because it looks better even though the results were similar to the other 2.

You seem to be very PRO shooting. And Edwards kinda dissappointed in that area as well but still love him as a prospect.

[HEZI]

the stage is set perfectly for them to trade down to us so we can get lamelo

curious and would like to get your thoughts.

You are high on Edwards (which I am as well).

And you are down on both LaMelo and Hayes (mostly because both are suspect shooters). Edwards was just as bad but do you think his shot is less broken because it looks better even though the results were similar to the other 2.

You seem to be very PRO shooting. And Edwards kinda dissappointed in that area as well but still love him as a prospect.

Edwards didn't shoot nearly as good percentage wise as I hoped he would but at the end of the day he still averages 2.3 makes per game in just under 8 attempts a game. 29% isn't that good but it's not terrible considering his high volume. In 32 games as a freshman he still made a ridiculous amount of outside shots at 72 total. I don't think Ball and Hayes have 72 threes combined. The mechanics on his shot are so nice too, so effortless and he's got plenty of range on it too. Yeah sure he took some "bad shots" and whatever but Lamelo isn't free from that either, he's taken plenty of questionable shots himself, but here's another difference, Edwards went to the line a lot too. 5.3 free throw attempts per game and a solid 77% at the line shows when he wasn't shooting from outside he was attacking inside and that's just what you want him to do. 171 free throw attempts and 132 makes is good, really good especially for somebody that young. Ball and Hayes barely combined together for just over 6 free throws a game. All things considered, the kid has potential to be a scoring machine in the league, he's got some of the best separation dribbles in the entire draft. Keep in mind he's also the youngest at 18. This is why he's my clear cut number 1 pick!