Around the NBA part 2

[Thugger HBC]

If you honestly haven't watched the Rockets play this year, especially Lin since Knicks fans can't let him go, then don't comment on him. Then was then. Now is now. He's a better player now since last year, especially his defense. Numbers don't tell everything.

Positives for Lin
Very good at steals
very good at rebounding for his size
Suited for the up tempo game that the rockets play

Bad for lin
Horrible at turnovers
Horrible at the 3ball
Streaky as can be (reminds me of gallo, can have one really great game or quarter then stinkers to follow)

He is not awful nor is he this basketball god you guys make him out to be.

Harden is the reason that team goes. Then Parsons. Then Lin. Then Asik.

He's not "horrible at turnovers" - his turnovers are just a little high. He's also not particularly "streaky," except on the 3-point shot which you decided to make into a separate bullet point. He contributes even when his shot is off - he made nice contributions to several recent Rockets wins even when he didn't score a lot. His general good play is part of the reason why the Rockets have been winning.

It's funny that the only only positives you could find are steals, rebounding and being "suited" to up-tempo. No "good at getting to the rim," no "good play-maker," no "good at controlling the tempo," no "high-effort player," just "suited" to up-tempo, lol.

I was surprised he provided as much credit as he did, which was good to see.

I do agree with the order of importance as far as the players go...

Harden Parsons Lin Asik.

But I do wanna see what the entire team does against the West.

Of all the top teams in the West only one doesn't have a winning record in their conference by a wide margin.

[kakaman]

I was surprised he provided as much credit as he did, which was good to see.

I do agree with the order of importance as far as the players go...

Harden Parsons Lin Asik.

But I do wanna see what the entire team does against the West.

Of all the top teams in the West only one doesn't have a winning record in their conference by a wide margin.

I've seen almost every Rockets game and the fact is the top 4 West teams are still a lot better than the bottom 4. Houston matches well with half court teams, so the can play with the Grizz, but I suspect that changes in the playoffs. However, OKC, LAC and SAS all play uptempo, and the fact of the matter is Hou is not up there. Still, very impressive for a completely new team and one Stephen A Smith says was going nowhere.

[Capn'O]

Lin's defense (you guys talking Jimmy Butler's?)

Seriously, you showed videos of him getting steals and then one where he fouled Kobe? Lin got a ton of steals here as well. I'm not even one of the people harping on Lin's D but it's his man coverage that needed work.

Butler is an all world man defender right now. Just another few levels.

[Wolfgang]

I don't expect Houston to get out of the first round with that type of style they play. Lol if the Suns couldn't do it this team sure as hell can't. Most of the young guys(which is like all of them), will get the playoff experience at least.

[21shumpshumpst]

If you honestly haven't watched the Rockets play this year, especially Lin since Knicks fans can't let him go, then don't comment on him. Then was then. Now is now. He's a better player now since last year, especially his defense. Numbers don't tell everything.

Positives for Lin
Very good at steals
very good at rebounding for his size
Suited for the up tempo game that the rockets play

Bad for lin
Horrible at turnovers
Horrible at the 3ball
Streaky as can be (reminds me of gallo, can have one really great game or quarter then stinkers to follow)

He is not awful nor is he this basketball god you guys make him out to be.

Harden is the reason that team goes. Then Parsons. Then Lin. Then Asik.

He's not "horrible at turnovers" - his turnovers are just a little high. He's also not particularly "streaky," except on the 3-point shot which you decided to make into a separate bullet point. He contributes even when his shot is off - he made nice contributions to several recent Rockets wins even when he didn't score a lot. His general good play is part of the reason why the Rockets have been winning.

It's funny that the only only positives you could find are steals, rebounding and being "suited" to up-tempo. No "good at getting to the rim," no "good play-maker," no "good at controlling the tempo," no "high-effort player," just "suited" to up-tempo, lol.

You are nitpicking. I could have made both lists longer but I made it a point to keep it even.

Again you guys act just like TKF use to act about Gallo. If Gallo made a regular pass TKF would go "omg look at that pass, what a ball mover that Gallo is, amazing pass such good fundamentals". You guys sensationalize every little thing about Lin as if no other young pg in the league does it. There are other young pgs in the league who do it and do it better.

Again Lin is not a scrub. He is what I actually thought he would be. An average to slightly above average pg which is not bad at all. A lot of guys have helped their teams win with that kind of talent. However the thing that I think bothers me and others is the Lin circle jerk that happens here for things that other pgs do on a regular yet you guys want to sensationalize just because he is Lin.

[Thugger HBC]

So...the Rockets have FINALLY suspended Royce White? What the hell were they waiting so long for?

[SonOfMars]

[knicksnyk]

I was surprised he provided as much credit as he did, which was good to see.

I do agree with the order of importance as far as the players go...

Harden Parsons Lin Asik.

But I do wanna see what the entire team does against the West.

Of all the top teams in the West only one doesn't have a winning record in their conference by a wide margin.

This list needs improvising. Omer Asik is definitively the most important player on that team because he anchors there defense & grabs the rebounds that lead to there fast break points. then harden is the next most important because he is there primary scorer. Lin is definitely next. Nobody else outside of Lin & harden can create there own shot & create for others efficiently enough & consistently enough. The entire reason there offense works is because of Lin & Harden they push the pace, they create for everyone else etc & the entire reason they play any defense is because of Asik. I value Defence a lot more than offence so I place Omer as the most important just like I place Tyson as the most important on the Knicks. Moris can but he isnt the most reliable., douglas can but he sucks. Parsons can but

[Thugger HBC]

I was surprised he provided as much credit as he did, which was good to see.

I do agree with the order of importance as far as the players go...

Harden Parsons Lin Asik.

But I do wanna see what the entire team does against the West.

Of all the top teams in the West only one doesn't have a winning record in their conference by a wide margin.

This list needs improvising. Omer Asik is definitively the most important player on that team because he anchors there defense & grabs the rebounds that lead to there fast break points. then harden is the next most important because he is there primary scorer. Lin is definitely next. Nobody else outside of Lin & harden can create there own shot & create for others efficiently enough & consistently enough. The entire reason there offense works is because of Lin & Harden they push the pace, they create for everyone else etc & the entire reason they play any defense is because of Asik. I value Defence a lot more than offence so I place Omer as the most important just like I place Tyson as the most important on the Knicks. Moris can but he isnt the most reliable., douglas can but he sucks. Parsons can but

That's fine...don't agree with that at all though.

Defense should be a priority, but they are winning and Asik is not the main reason why, just like Tyson is not our main reason why.

[21shumpshumpst]

[knicksnyk]

That's fine...don't agree with that at all though.

Defense should be a priority, but they are winning and Asik is not the main reason why, just like Tyson is not our main reason why.

Asik really is one of the top 3 reasons why they are winning. He is the roll man off the PNR he sets all the screens that allow lin & harden to penetrate & he cleans the offensive glass when Lin & harden miss shots. if it wasn't for Asik teams would be running lay up drills against them. In terms of Lin & harden they create all the shots for the teammates & are the only two guys that can effectively create for themselves. Order is up for debate but those three are definitely the most important.

[yaboynyp]

Royce White and this twitter ish…smh

[Falstaffxx]

He's not "horrible at turnovers" - his turnovers are just a little high. He's also not particularly "streaky," except on the 3-point shot which you decided to make into a separate bullet point. He contributes even when his shot is off - he made nice contributions to several recent Rockets wins even when he didn't score a lot. His general good play is part of the reason why the Rockets have been winning.

It's funny that the only only positives you could find are steals, rebounding and being "suited" to up-tempo. No "good at getting to the rim," no "good play-maker," no "good at controlling the tempo," no "high-effort player," just "suited" to up-tempo, lol.

You are nitpicking. I could have made both lists longer but I made it a point to keep it even.

Again you guys act just like TKF use to act about Gallo. If Gallo made a regular pass TKF would go "omg look at that pass, what a ball mover that Gallo is, amazing pass such good fundamentals". You guys sensationalize every little thing about Lin as if no other young pg in the league does it. There are other young pgs in the league who do it and do it better.

Again Lin is not a scrub. He is what I actually thought he would be. An average to slightly above average pg which is not bad at all. A lot of guys have helped their teams win with that kind of talent. However the thing that I think bothers me and others is the Lin circle jerk that happens here for things that other pgs do on a regular yet you guys want to sensationalize just because he is Lin.

Name-dropping Gallinari and other posters doesn't mean much, but for that matter, if we had a choice today to add Gallinari for 3 years for $25 million of Dolan's money, I'd gladly take him back. He's a pretty good player all-in-all - and Lin is probably a more valuable player than Gallinari.

I'm sorry people liking Lin after he did spectacular things for the Knicks last year makes you so mad...

[SonOfMars]

Over/Under on Royce White 1-game played in the NBA?

[Falstaffxx]

I was surprised he provided as much credit as he did, which was good to see.

I do agree with the order of importance as far as the players go...

Harden Parsons Lin Asik.

But I do wanna see what the entire team does against the West.

Of all the top teams in the West only one doesn't have a winning record in their conference by a wide margin.

This list needs improvising. Omer Asik is definitively the most important player on that team because he anchors there defense & grabs the rebounds that lead to there fast break points. then harden is the next most important because he is there primary scorer. Lin is definitely next. Nobody else outside of Lin & harden can create there own shot & create for others efficiently enough & consistently enough. The entire reason there offense works is because of Lin & Harden they push the pace, they create for everyone else etc & the entire reason they play any defense is because of Asik. I value Defence a lot more than offence so I place Omer as the most important just like I place Tyson as the most important on the Knicks. Moris can but he isnt the most reliable., douglas can but he sucks. Parsons can but

That's fine...don't agree with that at all though.

Defense should be a priority, but they are winning and Asik is not the main reason why, just like Tyson is not our main reason why.

I'd put it at Harden way out in front, with Lin and Asik next and roughly equal to each other in importance, and then Parsons a little behind. Just my opinion and I'm a little biased because I like Lin a lot.

[yaboynyp]

So I guess Lin had a descent game last night?? Lot’s of Lin talk on here today…lol

[yaboynyp]

I thought Lin was only a 10-5 on 35% shooting sort of guy. Where's all the talk of his %s these days? Harden is obviously the big gun there and Lin has taken over as the main orchestrator. Since November he has been doing a damn good job and the Rockets are winning. Good for them. With the HC back, guys are falling into their roles there but they still need a few more pieces. Obviously, Millsap would be great for them.



On to more important things - I can respect how the Clippers are just dominating but D"Andre's lack of blocks is a huge concern going forward. Mainly because I have him on my fantasy team and was TOTALLY **** RELYING ON YOUR BLOCKS YOU BIG FAT **** DOUCHE!!!!!

That is all.

No he’s a 12 and 6 on 43% shooting...

[SonOfMars]

Im going to spam this thread with NBA stuff, not related to Jeremy Lin or Danilo Gallinari

Heres the first thing:

“Those guys on the Clippers team,” Howard said, “they really enjoy each other off the court and it shows.”

And what about the Lakers?

“We have to play like we like each other,” Howard said. “Even if we don’t want to be friends off the court, whatever that may be, when we step in between the lines or we step in the locker room or the gym, we have to respect each other and what we bring to the table.”

“It really starts off the court,” Howard argued. “I think you have to have that relationship and that chemistry off the court for it to really blossom on the court. Those guys on the Clippers team. They really enjoy each other off the court and it shows.”

[GettinitDone]

Royce White should put a dick in his mouth and be done with it. He is just immature guy with anxiety issues. The problem with immaturity is they usually don't know/ are not aware they're immature. And his anxiety makes the immaturity seem off the chart/ paranoia territory because the problem with people playing victim is they blame everyone but themselves and don't know/ are not aware blaming is root of all problems for their own selves.

[21shumpshumpst]

He's not "horrible at turnovers" - his turnovers are just a little high. He's also not particularly "streaky," except on the 3-point shot which you decided to make into a separate bullet point. He contributes even when his shot is off - he made nice contributions to several recent Rockets wins even when he didn't score a lot. His general good play is part of the reason why the Rockets have been winning.

It's funny that the only only positives you could find are steals, rebounding and being "suited" to up-tempo. No "good at getting to the rim," no "good play-maker," no "good at controlling the tempo," no "high-effort player," just "suited" to up-tempo, lol.

You are nitpicking. I could have made both lists longer but I made it a point to keep it even.

Again you guys act just like TKF use to act about Gallo. If Gallo made a regular pass TKF would go "omg look at that pass, what a ball mover that Gallo is, amazing pass such good fundamentals". You guys sensationalize every little thing about Lin as if no other young pg in the league does it. There are other young pgs in the league who do it and do it better.

Again Lin is not a scrub. He is what I actually thought he would be. An average to slightly above average pg which is not bad at all. A lot of guys have helped their teams win with that kind of talent. However the thing that I think bothers me and others is the Lin circle jerk that happens here for things that other pgs do on a regular yet you guys want to sensationalize just because he is Lin.

Name-dropping Gallinari and other posters doesn't mean much, but for that matter, if we had a choice today to add Gallinari for 3 years for $25 million of Dolan's money, I'd gladly take him back. He's a pretty good player all-in-all - and Lin is probably a more valuable player than Gallinari.

I'm sorry people liking Lin after he did spectacular things for the Knicks last year makes you so mad...

Apple to Oranges. Gallo as much as people overrated him we knew what he was. He was with us for 3 years and we knew he was a streaky above average role player. It was not a 20 odd game sample of good games and abysmal games with no other seasons to go by.

I would gladly pay money for a known quantity. Not an unknown who I didn't think was a championship pg due to his shaky handles and high turnovers.

Lin has done nothing in this league. He is a 2 week phenom who fell back to earth afterwards (hi Miami game).

He is having an up and down season. We have yet to see what he does in the playoffs when teams actually have game plans for other teams and the intensity ramps up.

So I would think all this Lin circle jerks are a bit premature. Let the kid do something before you make him out to be the next CP3.