Hes_On_Fire wrote:seren wrote:The issue with trading Randle for Fox is the cap space. We better be convinced Fox is one of a big three on a high level playoff team. I get that Randle has a long contract too but the difference between their contracts is not negligible. If Fox is not the guy, we might be better off trading Randle for a short term guy like Westbrook
Fox can probably be the third best player on a good team.
Randle can't.
What's Fox ceiling at this point half a decade into it? I don't get the fascination with this guy. He has an insane contract ramping to $37 million with 4 years left.

Meh. We're half a decade in and he's bad. Why sign up for another half decade at an absurd number?
Thus far he's been a classic mediocre counting stats on wretched efficiency on a bad team guy. He's had the ball in his hands and been medicore. People are citing John Wall? That's actually a pretty close comp, both were awful shooters vs. league average. But I think Wall was elite defensively. Either way ... you don't want to pay John Wall $37 million. John Wall even when he was good and making All-Star teams was a 1st round exit waiting to happen (not withstanding Paul Pierce).
So floor is John Wall and one of the 5 worst contracts in the league.
Ceiling is Westbrook? Westbrook was the 3rd best player on a finals team? KD, Harden, Him? Ibaka's prime was good as well. Fox compares pretty closely to Westbrooks first 5 years.

But like, who cares? Do we want Westbricks age 25-29 seasons? For 30% of our cap? It's terrible. The only answer pro Fox people give is nebulous **** like 'you're crazy', 'go watch the game', 'something about the Kings being trash'. They can't point to anything tangible be it winning, any metric, or any evidence that this guy is a top 50 player.
Actually here's how bad Fox and his deal are, if he was just free I wouldn't want him. I'd rather just play it out with IQ and try my luck in the draft if he turns out to be bad or we can't develop him. IQ is just 21 year old Fox anyway. So just play the 21 year old making $2 million.