2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas

nykballa2k4 · Post #901 » by **nykballa2k4** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 11:29 pm

aggo wrote:theres a better chance that Allan Houston tries another comeback than Lamello being traded

They do have new procedures for knees now.

nykballa2k4 · Post #902 » by **nykballa2k4** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 11:30 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
Yep because these other "options" Im hearing are much worse.

I like what Donovan does enough to want to see it in NY, plus he is a NY guy, a Mets fan, and all that would be fun.

From a basketball sense, I realize neither is a very good option. Now if we can get him at a relatively low cost... then idk... I think we'd have to figure out a way to make it work.

Then say goodbye to Grimes and IQ (and probably a 2FRPs)

We are saying good bye to IQ anyways this summer

HarthorneWingo · Post #903 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 11:31 pm

Who does this remind you of on the Knicks? :lol:

HarthorneWingo · Post #904 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 11:32 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
I like what Donovan does enough to want to see it in NY, plus he is a NY guy, a Mets fan, and all that would be fun.

From a basketball sense, I realize neither is a very good option. Now if we can get him at a relatively low cost... then idk... I think we'd have to figure out a way to make it work.

Then say goodbye to Grimes and IQ (and probably a 2FRPs)

We are saying good bye to IQ anyways this summer

I really want Grimes and IQ to thrive here but Thibs can't figure out and offensive scheme that takes advantage of all these guys.

nykballa2k4 · Post #905 » by **nykballa2k4** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 11:41 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Then say goodbye to Grimes and IQ (and probably a 2FRPs)

We are saying good bye to IQ anyways this summer

I really want Grimes and IQ to thrive here but Thibs can't figure out and offensive scheme that takes advantage of all these guys.

It's a numbers game.
Brunson(starter), DD (bench), Hart (bench), Randle (starter)
Those guys are locked in. If we get a starting wing (I don't see a C upgrade on the horizon), then we only have one slot for RJ, Grimes, and IQ (whoever is left after the trade).

Jalen Bluntson · Post #906 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 11:43 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:Who does this remind you of on the Knicks?

Julius pretending to play defense.

RHODEY · Post #907 » by **RHODEY** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 12:00 am

nykballa2k4 wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
ScienceOfLosing wrote:
It would sure be an interesting guard set. We could stagger them as well and have a clear bench advantage constantly.
I wonder if they and their agents would agree to it?

If they both played together and were never staggered, could Melo guard the 2 well?

I like the idea of new pre migraine RJ at the 2/3 and moving Randle for a better fit.

Yep because these other "options" Im hearing are much worse.

I like what Donovan does enough to want to see it in NY, plus he is a NY guy, a Mets fan, and all that would be fun.

From a basketball sense, I realize neither is a very good option. Now if we can get him at a relatively low cost... then idk... I think we'd have to figure out a way to make it work.

I respect your preference, but I'd rather have the guy that gives you the height, passing, and scoring over just....scoring.

RHODEY · Post #908 » by **RHODEY** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 12:00 am

Watch on YouTube

nykballa2k4 · Post #909 » by **nykballa2k4** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 2:17 am

RHODEY wrote:

Watch on YouTube

I like Isaac, and if the Magic were having any other sort of season he might be up for grabs.

Right now, he plays a good role for them and he is expiring so no consequence for keeping him (aside from if he bolts in FA).

nykballa2k4 · Post #910 » by **nykballa2k4** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 2:42 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Who does this remind you of on the Knicks?

Julius pretending to play defense.

I would say RJ, but he was able to go right.

Jalen Bluntson · Post #911 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 3:18 am

nykballa2k4 wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Who does this remind you of on the Knicks?

Julius pretending to play defense.

I would say RJ, but he was able to go right.

So.

HarthorneWingo · Post #912 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 4:17 am

nykballa2k4 wrote:
RHODEY wrote:

Watch on YouTube

I like Isaac, and if the Magic were having any other sort of season he might be up for grabs.

Right now, he plays a good role for them and he is expiring so no consequence for keeping him (aside from if he bolts in FA).

Was it you that posted about Isaac before? I thought I had squashed that one. :lol:

Isaac is ALWAYS hurt plus didn't have an full Achilles tear? I mean maybe a Sims and SRP to have Isaac backup Randle. I could see something like that.

RHODEY · Post #913 » by **RHODEY** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 4:36 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
RHODEY wrote:

Watch on YouTube

I like Isaac, and if the Magic were having any other sort of season he might be up for grabs.

Right now, he plays a good role for them and he is expiring so no consequence for keeping him (aside from if he bolts in FA).

Was it you that posted about Isaac before? I thought I had squashed that one. Isaac is ALWAYS hurt plus didn't have an full Achilles tear? I mean maybe a Sims and SRP to have Isaac backup Randle. I could see something like that.

Only way Id take a flyer on him would be at a huge discount. Like Fournier and a 2nd rounder....something like that. He's very high risk high reward territory.

Richard4444 · Post #914 » by **Richard4444** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 4:39 am

RHODEY wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
While Lamello isn't perfect, he's pretty great at what he does well, score and assist. I think he's a taller Haliburton once you put him on a good team. And yes other teams would offer a lot , but I'd much prefer him over Donovan Mitchell.

He may be very good, but we should not have both he and Brunson.

Right but imo that would be a way better alternative than Donovan Mitchell and Brunson. We address two major weaknesses that Spida wouldn't, passing/assists and backcourt size.

I would rather trade for Donovan than LaMello. Lamello is not a better defender than Donovan. He is not cheaper than Donovan. He might be more injury-prone than Zion.

And I like LaMello.

sol537 · Post #915 » by **sol537** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 5:46 am

Randle plus IQ (or Grimes) for Zion straight up. New Orleans is going to want to move on one of these days. Hopefully this trade deadline…

ScienceOfLosing · Post #916 » by **ScienceOfLosing** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 7:42 am

nykballa2k4 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
We are saying good bye to IQ anyways this summer

I really want Grimes and IQ to thrive here but Thibs can't figure out and offensive scheme that takes advantage of all these guys.

It's a numbers game.
Brunson(starter), DD (bench), Hart (bench), Randle (starter)
Those guys are locked in. If we get a starting wing (I don't see a C upgrade on the horizon), then we only have one slot for RJ, Grimes, and IQ (whoever is left after the trade).

Cam starting for finals bound Lakers. There is our wing, literally.

And Obi starting at the 3 for finals bound Indiana. (Where Thibs would NEVER play him.)

Meanwhile we are working on a way to start a midget backcourt.

HarthorneWingo · Post #917 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 9:01 am

ScienceOfLosing wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:I really want Grimes and IQ to thrive here but Thibs can't figure out and offensive scheme that takes advantage of all these guys.

It's a numbers game.
Brunson(starter), DD (bench), Hart (bench), Randle (starter)
Those guys are locked in. If we get a starting wing (I don't see a C upgrade on the horizon), then we only have one slot for RJ, Grimes, and IQ (whoever is left after the trade).

Cam starting for finals bound Lakers. There is our wing, literally.

And Obi starting at the 3 for finals bound Indiana. (Where Thibs would NEVER play him.)

Meanwhile we are working on a way to start a midget backcourt.

We suck!

HopelessKnick · Post #918 » by **HopelessKnick** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 10:03 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
ScienceOfLosing wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:It's a numbers game.
Brunson(starter), DD (bench), Hart (bench), Randle (starter)
Those guys are locked in. If we get a starting wing (I don't see a C upgrade on the horizon), then we only have one slot for RJ, Grimes, and IQ (whoever is left after the trade).

Cam starting for finals bound Lakers. There is our wing, literally.

And Obi starting at the 3 for finals bound Indiana. (Where Thibs would NEVER play him.)

Meanwhile we are working on a way to start a midget backcourt.

We suck!

Generally looking across the league , it seems that big teams with a bunch of forwards generally tend to be more effective and win more games.

But as for Cam Reddish.....7points on 40% from the field and 30% from 3....you guys losing sleep over this?
As for Obi: Nothing really surprising has happened. He lacks on defense, is a great finisher and can hit some shots. Him getting 15points a night is what was to be expected, especially playing together with Haliburton. Actually I'm surprised his rebounding has been so poor (especially playing next to Turner who is also a weak rebounder).

Knicks need to take those 8 picks and overpay for a strong 2-way wing. I know teams like Brooklyn or Toronto do not want to deal with us, but I wonder at what price they would still do a deal....At this point, I would take RJ + Grimes + all tradable picks in the next 4-5 years and put it into getting 2 big two way wings.

Brunson
2-way Wing
2-way Wing
Randle
Mitch

with IQ, DD, Hart, Hart off the bench.

HopelessKnick · Post #919 » by **HopelessKnick** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 10:11 am

But generally speaking it seems to me that the only chance for this team to REALLY be a hot player for a star player or in contending for a title.....RJ would just HAVE to take a step. Looking at all impossible, unlikely, likely, realistic trade possibilities it seems that without another major internal improvement we are headed for second round and out in most scenarios.

Really too bad Mikal Bridges is wearing a Nets jersey. If he was on any western conference team I would throw a huge offer at them and re-unite him with his boys in NY.

nykballa2k4 · Post #920 » by **nykballa2k4** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 1:06 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
ScienceOfLosing wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:It's a numbers game.
Brunson(starter), DD (bench), Hart (bench), Randle (starter)
Those guys are locked in. If we get a starting wing (I don't see a C upgrade on the horizon), then we only have one slot for RJ, Grimes, and IQ (whoever is left after the trade).

Cam starting for finals bound Lakers. There is our wing, literally.

And Obi starting at the 3 for finals bound Indiana. (Where Thibs would NEVER play him.)

Meanwhile we are working on a way to start a midget backcourt.

We suck!

Cam sucks