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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1861 » by BKlutch » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:29 pm

reub wrote:
BKlutch wrote:NO NO NO NO NO.

We get a 2 year rental of a guy we're not even sure will be that great for us, and we give up our highly thought of first rounder and next year's first rounder?

NO NO NO NO NO.

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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1862 » by NoLayupRule » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:26 pm

How exactly is it that we owe our 2018,2019,2020,and 2021 2nd rounders to phily
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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1863 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:01 pm

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are these numbers supposed to be rank? if so, i'd slide Q down to 10 and bump the other two up.

that's just me tho.
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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1864 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:01 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:How exactly is it that we owe our 2018,2019,2020,and 2021 2nd rounders to phily


2 of em from the willy trade, which is well worth it. not sure about the other two.
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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1865 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:04 pm

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malik959 wrote:Image

Working out in [EDIT] LA! He looks good on the outside, but it's what inside, that counts. I'd like to know if that body still works at all.


yeah. being in good shape hasn't been an issue for jo. does he have anything left in the legs is the real question.

and hopefully it's only whey protein in those guns now.
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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1866 » by NoLayupRule » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:35 pm

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NoLayupRule wrote:How exactly is it that we owe our 2018,2019,2020,and 2021 2nd rounders to phily


2 of em from the willy trade, which is well worth it. not sure about the other two.

Fair enough

Still super annoying that we are gonna give up a high 2nd this year to phily of all teams
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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1867 » by BKlutch » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:06 pm

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Working out in [EDIT] LA! He looks good on the outside, but it's what inside, that counts. I'd like to know if that body still works at all.


yeah. being in good shape hasn't been an issue for jo. does he have anything left in the legs is the real question.

and hopefully it's only whey protein in those guns now.

We need people to scout Noah, so we know if he can play, or if he can even still walk.

I hope he can come back in even an approximation of his previous shape - but I'm not counting on that. If he really can't play at all, isn't there some sort of medical retirement where he can get paid and we get cap space back? I don't know anything about that.
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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1868 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:09 pm

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BKlutch wrote:Working out in [EDIT] LA! He looks good on the outside, but it's what inside, that counts. I'd like to know if that body still works at all.


yeah. being in good shape hasn't been an issue for jo. does he have anything left in the legs is the real question.

and hopefully it's only whey protein in those guns now.

We need people to scout Noah, so we know if he can play, or if he can even still walk.

I hope he can come back in even an approximation of his previous shape - but I'm not counting on that. If he really can't play at all, isn't there some sort of medical retirement where he can get paid and we get cap space back? I don't know anything about that.


yeah. if he is deemed to have a career-ending injury and is willing to retire, then we can do the medical retirement. he still gets paid and the cap hit is removed. that's what miami is going for with bosh. minnesota with pekovic, etc.
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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1869 » by BKlutch » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:09 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:How exactly is it that we owe our 2018,2019,2020,and 2021 2nd rounders to phily

At least they're just 2nd rounders. I heard that Phil wants to come back and give them 4 first rounders for just one leg of Embiid.
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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1870 » by BKlutch » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:10 pm

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yeah. being in good shape hasn't been an issue for jo. does he have anything left in the legs is the real question.

and hopefully it's only whey protein in those guns now.

We need people to scout Noah, so we know if he can play, or if he can even still walk.

I hope he can come back in even an approximation of his previous shape - but I'm not counting on that. If he really can't play at all, isn't there some sort of medical retirement where he can get paid and we get cap space back? I don't know anything about that.


yeah. if he is deemed to have a career-ending injury and is willing to retire, then we can do the medical retirement. he still gets paid and the cap hit is removed. that's what miami is going for with bosh. minnesota with pekovic, etc.

What if he can still play, but just not better than a 5th grader?
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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1871 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:12 pm

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BKlutch wrote:We need people to scout Noah, so we know if he can play, or if he can even still walk.

I hope he can come back in even an approximation of his previous shape - but I'm not counting on that. If he really can't play at all, isn't there some sort of medical retirement where he can get paid and we get cap space back? I don't know anything about that.


yeah. if he is deemed to have a career-ending injury and is willing to retire, then we can do the medical retirement. he still gets paid and the cap hit is removed. that's what miami is going for with bosh. minnesota with pekovic, etc.

What if he can still play, but just not better than a 5th grader?


no dice.
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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1872 » by BKlutch » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:17 pm

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yeah. if he is deemed to have a career-ending injury and is willing to retire, then we can do the medical retirement. he still gets paid and the cap hit is removed. that's what miami is going for with bosh. minnesota with pekovic, etc.

What if he can still play, but just not better than a 5th grader?


no dice.

I don't think Scott would ever do this, but maybe Phil would have had some tough guy come to finish him off to collect that medical retirement money. :lol:
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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1873 » by dakomish23 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:24 pm

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NoLayupRule wrote:How exactly is it that we owe our 2018,2019,2020,and 2021 2nd rounders to phily


2 of em from the willy trade, which is well worth it. not sure about the other two.


2018 second round draft pick to Philadelphia (swap, L.A. Clippers incoming)
Philadelphia will receive the more favorable of the L.A. Clippers' 2018 2nd round pick and New York's 2018 2nd round pick and New York will receive the less favorable of these two picks (via Philadelphia's right to swap L.A. Clippers for New York) [L.A. Clippers-Philadelphia, 2/20/2014; New York-Philadelphia, 10/27/2014]

2019 second round draft pick to Philadelphia
New York's 2019 2nd round pick to Philadelphia [New York-Philadelphia, 10/27/2014]


NEW YORK, October 27, 2014 –- New York Knickerbockers President Phil Jackson announced today that the team has traded forward Travis Outlaw to the Philadelphia 76ers for forward Arnett Moultrie. In addition, Philadelphia received a 2019 second-round draft selection and the option exchange 2018 second-round draft selections.


We actually get the LAC 2nd this year

:clap: :clap: :clap:

:rockon:

(assuming there's will be worse than ours).

20 & 21 are for WHG, which like you said, was clearly worth it.

Please trade with OKC & bring back Ferguson / CHI 2nd. Please & thank you
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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1874 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:40 pm

BKlutch wrote:
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BKlutch wrote:What if he can still play, but just not better than a 5th grader?


no dice.

I don't think Scott would ever do this, but maybe Phil would have had some tough guy come to finish him off to collect that medical retirement money. :lol:


nah, phil would have had him trying to run point center for the next 3 years.

scott is the guy to watch out for. he gangsta on the low. i can tell.
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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1875 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:42 pm

dakomish23 wrote:
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NoLayupRule wrote:How exactly is it that we owe our 2018,2019,2020,and 2021 2nd rounders to phily


2 of em from the willy trade, which is well worth it. not sure about the other two.


2018 second round draft pick to Philadelphia (swap, L.A. Clippers incoming)
Philadelphia will receive the more favorable of the L.A. Clippers' 2018 2nd round pick and New York's 2018 2nd round pick and New York will receive the less favorable of these two picks (via Philadelphia's right to swap L.A. Clippers for New York) [L.A. Clippers-Philadelphia, 2/20/2014; New York-Philadelphia, 10/27/2014]

2019 second round draft pick to Philadelphia
New York's 2019 2nd round pick to Philadelphia [New York-Philadelphia, 10/27/2014]


NEW YORK, October 27, 2014 –- New York Knickerbockers President Phil Jackson announced today that the team has traded forward Travis Outlaw to the Philadelphia 76ers for forward Arnett Moultrie. In addition, Philadelphia received a 2019 second-round draft selection and the option exchange 2018 second-round draft selections.


We actually get the LAC 2nd this year

:clap: :clap: :clap:

:rockon:

(assuming there's will be worse than ours).

20 & 21 are for WHG, which like you said, was clearly worth it.

Please trade with OKC & bring back Ferguson / CHI 2nd. Please & thank you


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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1876 » by BKlutch » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:43 pm

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no dice.

I don't think Scott would ever do this, but maybe Phil would have had some tough guy come to finish him off to collect that medical retirement money. :lol:


nah, phil would have had him trying to run point center for the next 3 years.

scott is the guy to watch out for. he gangsta on the low. i can tell.

I had no idea.
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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1877 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Aug 17, 2017 4:59 pm

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NoLayupRule wrote:How exactly is it that we owe our 2018,2019,2020,and 2021 2nd rounders to phily

At least they're just 2nd rounders. I heard that Phil wants to come back and give them 4 first rounders for just one leg of Embiid.


gotta give phil his due. he only acquired picks.
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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1878 » by BKlutch » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:18 pm

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NoLayupRule wrote:How exactly is it that we owe our 2018,2019,2020,and 2021 2nd rounders to phily

At least they're just 2nd rounders. I heard that Phil wants to come back and give them 4 first rounders for just one leg of Embiid.


gotta give phil his due. he only acquired picks.

Yes, but that was before he was run out of town back to the wilderness.
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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1879 » by magnumt » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:58 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:How exactly is it that we owe our 2018,2019,2020,and 2021 2nd rounders to phily


Indirectly. The people we traded two of them to, ended up trading them to Philly. Two of them IIRC we traded for WillyG.

We've done well with undrafted guys tho, and if we REALLY wanted a guy, we'd make a trade or buy one (the $$$ you're allowed for picks increased with the new CBA IIRC).

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Re: Summer 2017 / 2018 Season FA/Trade Wishing Well 

Post#1880 » by dakomish23 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:07 pm

A team that could use some of our spare parts is NOP. They have the twin towers. They have two competent PGs. Their 2/3 options are weak.

LFT for Ajinca / Jackson

Or

Lee for Ajinca/ QPon / Jackson

Get a decent PG prospect to grow with the youth movement and Ajinca expires in 2019

I doubt they'd also add Diallo but that would make this a big win IMO. Plus if we dump Lee that adds a significant number to our cap space.

Shorter contracts? Check
Prospects? Check
Assets? Doubt we could get a 2nd included
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