ImageImageImageImageImage

Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- ANNOUNCEMENT Draft and FA page 19 *date change*

Moderators: GONYK, K-DOT, Deeeez Knicks, Capn'O, Thugger HBC, j4remi, Jeff Van Gully, mrpoetryNmotion, mpharris36, NoLayupRule, King of Canada

User avatar
Manhattan Project
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 37,967
And1: 6,011
Joined: Feb 23, 2005
Location: The game ain't in me no more. None of it.

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#41 » by Manhattan Project » Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:59 pm

NewEra wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:that Jokic trade in hindsight..Giannis may now be the 'Robin' on that team..

The Jokic and Murray trades are looking really good for Melo and Deeeez.


Image

Jokic:
19 l 7.5 l 5

Stats aren't up anymore from years two and one. I experimented with Jokic playing off Drummond in year two because of the sims affinity for odd lineups. Jokic was the center in year one, I tried a bunch of different ways to get Jokic to play like Jokic and the sim wasn't having it. I've said from the get go, Jokic is the hardest player in the league to replicate and it killed me not to be able to see it on my team.

Now perhaps playing next to Giannis he will breakout, but this sim? I dunno man. Here's to Beal discovering a three pointer next year in this sim. Hope it works out for Deez, just not at my expense.
Utah Jazz
Cauley-Stein x Plumee x Birch
Markkanen x Reid x Fernando
Reddish x Hayward
Beal x Allen x Crabbe
Russell x Mudiay
In his house at R'lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.
User avatar
Deeeez Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 32,480
And1: 18,527
Joined: Nov 12, 2004
Location: Bar stool

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#42 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:52 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:
NewEra wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:that Jokic trade in hindsight..Giannis may now be the 'Robin' on that team..

The Jokic and Murray trades are looking really good for Melo and Deeeez.


Image

Jokic:
19 l 7.5 l 5

Stats aren't up anymore from years two and one. I experimented with Jokic playing off Drummond in year two because of the sims affinity for odd lineups. Jokic was the center in year one, I tried a bunch of different ways to get Jokic to play like Jokic and the sim wasn't having it. I've said from the get go, Jokic is the hardest player in the league to replicate and it killed me not to be able to see it on my team.

Now perhaps playing next to Giannis he will breakout, but this sim? I dunno man. Here's to Beal discovering a three pointer next year in this sim. Hope it works out for Deez, just not at my expense.


Yea, I am not sure how the sim will view that pairing... In real life I would love to see how that core would fit together with Jokic throwing outlet passes to Giannis and hitting Mikal on cuts...might as well role with it. I guess certain things Jokic does really well would be hard to simulate, but hopefully it shows up somewhere.

For whatever reason, Beal couldnt shoot at all last season. But he was good the 2 years prior and seemed like his usual self. I would expect him to be back. On the other end, the sim made Jrue like a top 10 player and my best guy. It seemed like they just added some of his numbers to Jrue to balance itself out on the team.
Mavs
C: Jokic | Grant Williams
F: Giannis | Kurucs
F: Mikal Bridges | Okpala
G: Jrue Holiday | Danuel House
G: Derrick White |
Stash
Didi
Milos
User avatar
2010
Knicks Forum A Helluva Poster
Posts: 25,400
And1: 19,466
Joined: Jul 24, 2008
       

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#43 » by 2010 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:54 pm

Siakam and Chris Paul should not have made All NBA 2nd Team.
Image Image

We The North...

1: James | Rose | Shamet
2: Redick | Kennard | Tucker
3: Harris | Hood | Mathews | Musa | Korver
4: Bagley | Portis | O'Neale | Ojeleye
5: Cousins | Len | Kornet
User avatar
NewEra
RealGM
Posts: 11,621
And1: 5,880
Joined: Oct 11, 2007
Location: Everywhere

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#44 » by NewEra » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:19 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:
NewEra wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:that Jokic trade in hindsight..Giannis may now be the 'Robin' on that team..

The Jokic and Murray trades are looking really good for Melo and Deeeez.


Image

Jokic:
19 l 7.5 l 5

Stats aren't up anymore from years two and one. I experimented with Jokic playing off Drummond in year two because of the sims affinity for odd lineups. Jokic was the center in year one, I tried a bunch of different ways to get Jokic to play like Jokic and the sim wasn't having it. I've said from the get go, Jokic is the hardest player in the league to replicate and it killed me not to be able to see it on my team.

Now perhaps playing next to Giannis he will breakout, but this sim? I dunno man. Here's to Beal discovering a three pointer next year in this sim. Hope it works out for Deez, just not at my expense.

What’s happening in real life now is definitely not an indication of what will happen in sim, especially since we’re usually a year behind. However, it has to feel good to see these guys going deep in the playoffs and performing at a very high level.
bringbackhoffa
RealGM
Posts: 10,731
And1: 3,072
Joined: Apr 18, 2007
     

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#45 » by bringbackhoffa » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:25 pm

2010 wrote:Siakam and Chris Paul should not have made All NBA 2nd Team.


All NBA team are based on regular season results, the raptors deserved one player as they had the second best record in the entire NBA season, and Pascal was their best player during the regular season. Terrible playoffs but cant forget he did lead this team to the 2nd overall best record and best winning percentage in franchise history.
Charlotte (term for 2020-21)
Morant- $60/2(3) years/ 8-)
FVV $45/2/Fournier- $85/2 years
Bogdanovich- $60/1 years/Windler12/1
Siakam- $10/1 years/JJJ- $67/5 years
?/Vucevic- $95/3 years

EXEMPT
Gortat- $75/1 years
User avatar
2010
Knicks Forum A Helluva Poster
Posts: 25,400
And1: 19,466
Joined: Jul 24, 2008
       

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#46 » by 2010 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:25 pm

Melo team gonna be scary with all the SIM upgrades he is gonna be seeing and with Murray now in tow. I think Indiana gets all the flowers but Cleveland may be the team that's the actual BaF dynasty.
Image Image

We The North...

1: James | Rose | Shamet
2: Redick | Kennard | Tucker
3: Harris | Hood | Mathews | Musa | Korver
4: Bagley | Portis | O'Neale | Ojeleye
5: Cousins | Len | Kornet
User avatar
2010
Knicks Forum A Helluva Poster
Posts: 25,400
And1: 19,466
Joined: Jul 24, 2008
       

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#47 » by 2010 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:28 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:
2010 wrote:Siakam and Chris Paul should not have made All NBA 2nd Team.


All NBA team are based on regular season results, the raptors deserved one player as they had the second best record in the entire NBA season, and Pascal was their best player during the regular season. Terrible playoffs but cant forget he did lead this team to the 2nd overall best record and best winning percentage in franchise history.


True. But to me, he is not a top 10 player. I view him in the Pippen mold. He is a strong 2nd option miscast as a 1st.
Image Image

We The North...

1: James | Rose | Shamet
2: Redick | Kennard | Tucker
3: Harris | Hood | Mathews | Musa | Korver
4: Bagley | Portis | O'Neale | Ojeleye
5: Cousins | Len | Kornet
bringbackhoffa
RealGM
Posts: 10,731
And1: 3,072
Joined: Apr 18, 2007
     

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#48 » by bringbackhoffa » Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:33 pm

2010 wrote:
bringbackhoffa wrote:
2010 wrote:Siakam and Chris Paul should not have made All NBA 2nd Team.


All NBA team are based on regular season results, the raptors deserved one player as they had the second best record in the entire NBA season, and Pascal was their best player during the regular season. Terrible playoffs but cant forget he did lead this team to the 2nd overall best record and best winning percentage in franchise history.


True. But to me, he is not a top 10 player. I view him in the Pippen mold. He is a strong 2nd option miscast as a 1st.


yep definitely not top 10, and wont have to be #1 when Masai signs Giannis. Ujiri helped Giannis family emigrate from Nigeria to Greece
Charlotte (term for 2020-21)
Morant- $60/2(3) years/ 8-)
FVV $45/2/Fournier- $85/2 years
Bogdanovich- $60/1 years/Windler12/1
Siakam- $10/1 years/JJJ- $67/5 years
?/Vucevic- $95/3 years

EXEMPT
Gortat- $75/1 years
User avatar
Capn'O
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 57,324
And1: 47,845
Joined: Dec 16, 2005
Location: There were giants in those days
 

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#49 » by Capn'O » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:01 pm

2010 wrote:Melo team gonna be scary with all the SIM upgrades he is gonna be seeing and with Murray now in tow. I think Indiana gets all the flowers but Cleveland may be the team that's the actual BaF dynasty.


He'll have a hard time keeping it all past 2022. So I'm not sure about dynasty but his team is gonna be NASTY these next two years.
BAF Clippers
Kyrie SGA CoJo Ferguson THT
Middleton KCP DFS Jeff Green
Nurkic Holmes Bell Eubanks

RIP Mags :beer:
"Greatness wasn't worth anything if you couldn't share it."-Kobe
User avatar
Context
RealGM
Posts: 23,771
And1: 7,948
Joined: Jul 06, 2005
Location: where the Gods dwell! shhhhhhh
 

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#50 » by Context » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:12 pm

Capn'O wrote:
2010 wrote:Melo team gonna be scary with all the SIM upgrades he is gonna be seeing and with Murray now in tow. I think Indiana gets all the flowers but Cleveland may be the team that's the actual BaF dynasty.


He'll have a hard time keeping it all past 2022. So I'm not sure about dynasty but his team is gonna be NASTY these next two years.

Cap, but - regardless...you know what Mel is thinking?

I do:

Gorilla Pistons
3 Expirings...
Herro-$29/6 yrs
Mitchell Robinson-$27/5 yrs
Kevin Porter Jr.-$15/2(3) yrs
Eric Paschall-$10/4 yrs
Ignas Brazdeikis-$1/3 yrs
Lu Dort- $13/3(4) years
User avatar
3toheadmelo
RealGM
Posts: 39,825
And1: 37,492
Joined: Feb 15, 2015
 

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#51 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:17 pm

Capn'O wrote:
2010 wrote:Melo team gonna be scary with all the SIM upgrades he is gonna be seeing and with Murray now in tow. I think Indiana gets all the flowers but Cleveland may be the team that's the actual BaF dynasty.


He'll have a hard time keeping it all past 2022. So I'm not sure about dynasty but his team is gonna be NASTY these next two years.

I’ll have at least $900 and can go over the cap to resign them if necessary. I’m not worried. I waited 3 years for them to break out. They’re not going anywhere. I been patient enough already. Not going to reap the benefits of waiting for so long just for one or 2 seasons and let them go in free agency. They staying here. I built it from the ground up..
Cavs Nation
PG: Jamal Murray/McLaughlin
SG: Zach Lavine/Dunn
SF: Jayson Tatum/Troy Brown Jr
PF: Bam Adebayo
C: Deandre Ayton/Randle


It's like when lil bitches make subliminal records, If it ain't directed directly at me, I don't respect it
User avatar
Capn'O
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 57,324
And1: 47,845
Joined: Dec 16, 2005
Location: There were giants in those days
 

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#52 » by Capn'O » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:36 pm

Context wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
2010 wrote:Melo team gonna be scary with all the SIM upgrades he is gonna be seeing and with Murray now in tow. I think Indiana gets all the flowers but Cleveland may be the team that's the actual BaF dynasty.


He'll have a hard time keeping it all past 2022. So I'm not sure about dynasty but his team is gonna be NASTY these next two years.

Cap, but - regardless...you know what Mel is thinking?

I do:



:lol: Truth. I'm not allowed to post that video though.
BAF Clippers
Kyrie SGA CoJo Ferguson THT
Middleton KCP DFS Jeff Green
Nurkic Holmes Bell Eubanks

RIP Mags :beer:
"Greatness wasn't worth anything if you couldn't share it."-Kobe
User avatar
Capn'O
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 57,324
And1: 47,845
Joined: Dec 16, 2005
Location: There were giants in those days
 

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#53 » by Capn'O » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:38 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
2010 wrote:Melo team gonna be scary with all the SIM upgrades he is gonna be seeing and with Murray now in tow. I think Indiana gets all the flowers but Cleveland may be the team that's the actual BaF dynasty.


He'll have a hard time keeping it all past 2022. So I'm not sure about dynasty but his team is gonna be NASTY these next two years.

I’ll have at least $900 and can go over the cap to resign them if necessary. I’m not worried. I waited 3 years for them to break out. They’re not going anywhere. I been patient enough already. Not going to reap the benefits of waiting for so long just for one or 2 seasons and let them go in free agency. They staying here. I built it from the ground up..


The transformation of your team has been remarkable.
BAF Clippers
Kyrie SGA CoJo Ferguson THT
Middleton KCP DFS Jeff Green
Nurkic Holmes Bell Eubanks

RIP Mags :beer:
"Greatness wasn't worth anything if you couldn't share it."-Kobe
User avatar
Context
RealGM
Posts: 23,771
And1: 7,948
Joined: Jul 06, 2005
Location: where the Gods dwell! shhhhhhh
 

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#54 » by Context » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:44 pm

Capn'O wrote:
Context wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
He'll have a hard time keeping it all past 2022. So I'm not sure about dynasty but his team is gonna be NASTY these next two years.

Cap, but - regardless...you know what Mel is thinking?

I do:



:lol: Truth. I'm not allowed to post that video though.

**** that Cap...

I grant you honorary ****! :lol:
Gorilla Pistons
3 Expirings...
Herro-$29/6 yrs
Mitchell Robinson-$27/5 yrs
Kevin Porter Jr.-$15/2(3) yrs
Eric Paschall-$10/4 yrs
Ignas Brazdeikis-$1/3 yrs
Lu Dort- $13/3(4) years
User avatar
Context
RealGM
Posts: 23,771
And1: 7,948
Joined: Jul 06, 2005
Location: where the Gods dwell! shhhhhhh
 

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#55 » by Context » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:46 pm

Capn'O wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
He'll have a hard time keeping it all past 2022. So I'm not sure about dynasty but his team is gonna be NASTY these next two years.

I’ll have at least $900 and can go over the cap to resign them if necessary. I’m not worried. I waited 3 years for them to break out. They’re not going anywhere. I been patient enough already. Not going to reap the benefits of waiting for so long just for one or 2 seasons and let them go in free agency. They staying here. I built it from the ground up..


The transformation of your team has been remarkable.

He traded that #4 pick perfectly...
Gorilla Pistons
3 Expirings...
Herro-$29/6 yrs
Mitchell Robinson-$27/5 yrs
Kevin Porter Jr.-$15/2(3) yrs
Eric Paschall-$10/4 yrs
Ignas Brazdeikis-$1/3 yrs
Lu Dort- $13/3(4) years
User avatar
Capn'O
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 57,324
And1: 47,845
Joined: Dec 16, 2005
Location: There were giants in those days
 

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#56 » by Capn'O » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:50 pm

Context wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Context wrote:Cap, but - regardless...you know what Mel is thinking?

I do:



:lol: Truth. I'm not allowed to post that video though.

**** that Cap...

I grant you honorary ****! :lol:


:rofl: <3 ya too, fam
BAF Clippers
Kyrie SGA CoJo Ferguson THT
Middleton KCP DFS Jeff Green
Nurkic Holmes Bell Eubanks

RIP Mags :beer:
"Greatness wasn't worth anything if you couldn't share it."-Kobe
User avatar
3toheadmelo
RealGM
Posts: 39,825
And1: 37,492
Joined: Feb 15, 2015
 

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#57 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:51 pm

Capn'O wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
He'll have a hard time keeping it all past 2022. So I'm not sure about dynasty but his team is gonna be NASTY these next two years.

I’ll have at least $900 and can go over the cap to resign them if necessary. I’m not worried. I waited 3 years for them to break out. They’re not going anywhere. I been patient enough already. Not going to reap the benefits of waiting for so long just for one or 2 seasons and let them go in free agency. They staying here. I built it from the ground up..


The transformation of your team has been remarkable.

I’ll never forget the days of hyping up Skal Labissiere and Caleb Swanigan
Cavs Nation
PG: Jamal Murray/McLaughlin
SG: Zach Lavine/Dunn
SF: Jayson Tatum/Troy Brown Jr
PF: Bam Adebayo
C: Deandre Ayton/Randle


It's like when lil bitches make subliminal records, If it ain't directed directly at me, I don't respect it
User avatar
Capn'O
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 57,324
And1: 47,845
Joined: Dec 16, 2005
Location: There were giants in those days
 

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#58 » by Capn'O » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:54 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:I’ll have at least $900 and can go over the cap to resign them if necessary. I’m not worried. I waited 3 years for them to break out. They’re not going anywhere. I been patient enough already. Not going to reap the benefits of waiting for so long just for one or 2 seasons and let them go in free agency. They staying here. I built it from the ground up..


The transformation of your team has been remarkable.

I’ll never forget the days of hyping up Skal Labissiere and Caleb Swanigan


Speaking of which...

Read on Twitter
BAF Clippers
Kyrie SGA CoJo Ferguson THT
Middleton KCP DFS Jeff Green
Nurkic Holmes Bell Eubanks

RIP Mags :beer:
"Greatness wasn't worth anything if you couldn't share it."-Kobe
bringbackhoffa
RealGM
Posts: 10,731
And1: 3,072
Joined: Apr 18, 2007
     

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#59 » by bringbackhoffa » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:51 pm

Context wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:I’ll have at least $900 and can go over the cap to resign them if necessary. I’m not worried. I waited 3 years for them to break out. They’re not going anywhere. I been patient enough already. Not going to reap the benefits of waiting for so long just for one or 2 seasons and let them go in free agency. They staying here. I built it from the ground up..


The transformation of your team has been remarkable.

He traded that #4 pick perfectly...


so pissed i didn't trade Vuc for Murray when Braz offered me it
Charlotte (term for 2020-21)
Morant- $60/2(3) years/ 8-)
FVV $45/2/Fournier- $85/2 years
Bogdanovich- $60/1 years/Windler12/1
Siakam- $10/1 years/JJJ- $67/5 years
?/Vucevic- $95/3 years

EXEMPT
Gortat- $75/1 years
bringbackhoffa
RealGM
Posts: 10,731
And1: 3,072
Joined: Apr 18, 2007
     

Re: Build a Franchise Season 4 Offseason- Bubble Sweet 16 (Miami @ Toronto Wednesday 9PM) 

Post#60 » by bringbackhoffa » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:52 pm

Capn'O wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
He'll have a hard time keeping it all past 2022. So I'm not sure about dynasty but his team is gonna be NASTY these next two years.

I’ll have at least $900 and can go over the cap to resign them if necessary. I’m not worried. I waited 3 years for them to break out. They’re not going anywhere. I been patient enough already. Not going to reap the benefits of waiting for so long just for one or 2 seasons and let them go in free agency. They staying here. I built it from the ground up..


The transformation of your team has been remarkable.


it will be tough to see him retain everyone but he could keep a good chunk of his core, losing a player like Lavine will not hurt him too much. Tatum raise will likely be covered with Lavine current salary. And DSJr&Dunn's salary will likely take care of Bam's increase
Charlotte (term for 2020-21)
Morant- $60/2(3) years/ 8-)
FVV $45/2/Fournier- $85/2 years
Bogdanovich- $60/1 years/Windler12/1
Siakam- $10/1 years/JJJ- $67/5 years
?/Vucevic- $95/3 years

EXEMPT
Gortat- $75/1 years

Return to New York Knicks