Angryfatboy wrote: TheDavinciCHODE wrote:
Best case scenario is Toppin becomes a bona fide # 1 option and RJ is a # 2 or 3
RJ is a stat stuffer and I project him to be a high level glue guy on a contender. Not sure what people need to be sold on with RJ because he is already a well-rounded player who just needs to increase his efficiency and I expect he will.
What I like about Toppin is he has range. All this talk about Amare is fine when it comes to dunking on the break, but Stat was NEVER a three point threat. If anything he has a bit of KD in him with that kind of shooting touch.
So I can see Toppin becoming a legit # 1 if his dominance translates to the NBA
I understand rolling the dice on Toppin instead of picking a PG if he is that guy, because a legit # 1 or even # 2 championship quality scoring option is something you must have so using a # 8 on him can be a true BPA pick in this case
I can fully understand picking Obi at # 8 whereas Knox was a definite head scratcher
I agree that Obi has a lot of scoring talent, maybe more than anyone in this draft. But I just don't see him being a legit #1 or even #2 option on a high-caliber team deep in the playoffs.
Are there any players in the league now that he resembles? He's not really a 3, and he's not really a 4. He can't play the 5 defensively either so that's out.
I really hope it's true but I don't see a path to a legit #1 option. What are you hoping his game evolves into?
probably will play the 4 in the NBA and the 5 against certain match-ups/situations
I agree that he's a 4, but what exactly is his path to #1-option status?
Kevin Love averaged 26/12.5 and nearly 38% from 3 and couldn't get his team to the playoffs.
What are the chances that Obi ever comes close to that level of production? Not good I think.
John Collins averaged 20/10 last year and we still aren't sure he's a winning NBA player at a high level.
Nikola Vucevic averaged 21/12 2 years ago and the Magic were barely a playoff team.
What I'm saying is bigs that score but can't play defense aren't really that valuable at high-level NBA basketball.
Obi has more bounce than those guys, but he's not nearly the shooter as Love or Vucevic.
In order to really be a #1 option, Obi is going to have to hit 37% or better from 3 on high volume, beast smaller guys on switches, become a solid playmaker, get to the rim at will against bigger guys, become a passable defender, and even then I don't think he's the #1 option on a great team.
He's got a long way to go and it's questionable he even comes close. He's super talented, but I just don't see how he fits on a winning team.