12/1 Magic @ Timberwolves 8PM EST

[CraZyPraiZ]

I'm sorry I missed the game, though given how the Magic came close to blowing it that may be for the best.



He has not looked like the same player this year. I still haven't seen all that many games, but he doesn't look injured. He's settled for threes he probably shouldn't take, imo, and I think he's also done too much standing around on the weakside.

He's taking 2 less shots a game over last year, his Rebs, Assists, stls, & FG % are all up over last year. This all points to a guy playing team ball. I'll take this Harris.

Yeah I don't really have a problem with how Harris is playing. We iso him on occasion but for the most part he's playing within the system and DEFENDING!!

The next thing AG has to work on is his footwork in the post. If he had AN or Vuc footwork...Holy sheet. His one on one defense against Wiggles was great.

I agree. His defense and rebounding have been superb. It's what we need from him. I'd rather keep seeing 10-15 from all of these guys as it just makes it more difficult to defend them.

[OrlandO]

Not to pick on Skiles here, but I will never understand when he rides guys for so long in the 2nd half. It usually doesn't produce anything spectacular from them. This time it was Nicholson, who played the final 18 minutes of the game. He hit those free throws with seconds to go, but he was pretty ineffective during that lengthy span, which was the same story when he finished the final 22 minutes of the last game vs Minny. Skiles does this often with players, so clearly he thinks it's an advantageous strategy. Is it really though? Under Vaughn you could probably play guys 48 mpg and they wouldn't break a sweat, but with Skiles he is getting them to play hard all the time... surely a breather at the top of the 4th quarter to go along with the break between quarters would be beneficial, especially to a bench big like drew?

[NBlue]

I think it all depends on the team we are playing. Some games, Nicholson doesn't get off the bench and some games he plays many minutes. All depends on the macthups, who has energy and who follows the coaches play calling the best. Thus I think Mario, Deadman and AG must not be following coaches plays or they would probably get more minutes.

This is clearly not accurate on many levels.

Nicholson has clearly established himself as a rotation player over the last several games. He, along with Dipo, is now one of the first subs off the bench. Previously, he was not in the rotation at all and would only get spot minutes here or there. However, as of this moment he is and will continue to be a rotation player provided he continues to play at this level.

AG is also, clearly, a rotation player. How many minutes he gets depends on a number of factors but he is unquestionably a rotation player.

Dedmon and Mario are currently out of the rotation. It is possible they could receive spot minutes based on injury, need or matchup but, currently -- as things stand -- they are essentially out of the rotation in favor of players who have simply performed better overall. I see no evidence that "not following coaches plays" are the primary reason for their benching. Quite simply, they have simply not been as good as the other options.

If you watch games, Mario, AG and Deadman are often out of position and often make BBIQ mistakes. Thus, they are lower on the rotation. It is that simple. This is a team game, not a "Lets try to develop a superstar even though he is playing like dumbass" game.

And, I really want to see AG and Mario become stars in this league, but they have a great deal of learning to do before they can really help their team.

I watch every game at least once. You are flat out wrong regarding the current rotation.

Nicholson is clearly and without question a player who is currently solidly in the rotation logging over 20 minutes per game in each of the last 5. Obviously, this could change in the future but suggesting he only plays based on matchups is factually inaccurate.

AG is averaging 20 minutes per game on the season - he is also solidly in the rotation. I do not see evidence that he is "often out of position" and, in fact, he is clearly a plus defensive player. If anything, his issue is that he turns the ball over and forces things on occasion but he also maintains the highest PER on the team.

Dedmon and Mario are clearly not mainstays in the rotation currently. You initially claimed they were "not following coaches plays" and that is why they were not getting minutes. You now have abandoned that claim and instead assert that they are "often out of position and often make BBIQ mistakes." I guess your new theory is probably closer to accurate -- the fact is they have simply been outplayed by other players (Jason Smith has been better than Dedmon and the emergence of Nicholson has allowed AG to take Mario's minutes at the 3).

[Gomagic44]

Y'all need to try tibbys in altomonte by sweet tomatoes. Best Cajun in town afaik.


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[Versubio]

Y'all need to try tibbys in altomonte by sweet tomatoes. Best Cajun in town afaik.


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There is one in Winter Park too. They are awesome though.

[Orlwillbeback]

Y'all need to try tibbys in altomonte by sweet tomatoes. Best Cajun in town afaik.


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There is one in Winter Park too. They are awesome though.

Like legit Gumbo there? Because i am craving some damn Gumbo.

[OrlandO]

Y'all need to try tibbys in altomonte by sweet tomatoes. Best Cajun in town afaik.


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There is one in Winter Park too. They are awesome though.

Like legit Gumbo there? Because i am craving some damn Gumbo.

I've never been, but I'm pretty sure Payton said it was the best place to eat in Orlando and that it reminded him of home.

[Versubio]

Y'all need to try tibbys in altomonte by sweet tomatoes. Best Cajun in town afaik.


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There is one in Winter Park too. They are awesome though.

Like legit Gumbo there? Because i am craving some damn Gumbo.

Yes, the food is legit.

[KillMonger]

I wonder if they got takeout cause I always pass by that area on the way home. Would love to try some Gumbo

[woosah]

Ha I got you all wanting gumbo. Elfrid does rave about Tibby's so maybe yall should try it.

[seeingstars]

Not to pick on Skiles here, but I will never understand when he rides guys for so long in the 2nd half. It usually doesn't produce anything spectacular from them. This time it was Nicholson, who played the final 18 minutes of the game. He hit those free throws with seconds to go, but he was pretty ineffective during that lengthy span, which was the same story when he finished the final 22 minutes of the last game vs Minny. Skiles does this often with players, so clearly he thinks it's an advantageous strategy. Is it really though? Under Vaughn you could probably play guys 48 mpg and they wouldn't break a sweat, but with Skiles he is getting them to play hard all the time... surely a breather at the top of the 4th quarter to go along with the break between quarters would be beneficial, especially to a bench big like drew?

Maybe the strategy was more for floor spacing then necessarily ANs individual numbers during that time.

[OrlandO]

Not to pick on Skiles here, but I will never understand when he rides guys for so long in the 2nd half. It usually doesn't produce anything spectacular from them. This time it was Nicholson, who played the final 18 minutes of the game. He hit those free throws with seconds to go, but he was pretty ineffective during that lengthy span, which was the same story when he finished the final 22 minutes of the last game vs Minny. Skiles does this often with players, so clearly he thinks it's an advantageous strategy. Is it really though? Under Vaughn you could probably play guys 48 mpg and they wouldn't break a sweat, but with Skiles he is getting them to play hard all the time... surely a breather at the top of the 4th quarter to go along with the break between quarters would be beneficial, especially to a bench big like drew?

Maybe the strategy was more for floor spacing then necessarily ANs individual numbers during that time.

Nah, we have Frye for that. Could easily come in for a few minutes if that was priority.