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Re: NBA All-Star Game 

Post#21 » by KingRobb02 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:04 pm

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Showbiz Bear wrote:The NBA doesn't wanna be on the wrong side of history. Intolerance never prevails. I'm glad they're doing this. It's a proper foil to the rampant racial tensions and homophobia/transphobia/Islamaphobia/immigrantphobia/anythingbutoldwhitemenphobia that's perverting our society recently. We don't need PC culture, I hate PC culture, but common decency and common sense culture would be nice.

THAT SAID, everyone is entitled to their opinion on these matters. If it doesn't jive with your religion, or worldview, that's perfectly acceptable. But don't be an ***-hole when voicing your opinion, like Lou Holtz or Donald Drumpf. Sorry, mini-rant there.


The NBA is actually the intolerant one. They should be tolerant with the current law in NC instead of needing to push their own agenda and use their product as black mail.

And to use the word phobia would be incorrect I don't think anybody is scared of homosexuals.

The bill has nothing to do with homosexuals.
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Post#22 » by MagicFan101 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:59 pm

mattj15 wrote:
Showbiz Bear wrote:The NBA doesn't wanna be on the wrong side of history. Intolerance never prevails. I'm glad they're doing this. It's a proper foil to the rampant racial tensions and homophobia/transphobia/Islamaphobia/immigrantphobia/anythingbutoldwhitemenphobia that's perverting our society recently. We don't need PC culture, I hate PC culture, but common decency and common sense culture would be nice.

THAT SAID, everyone is entitled to their opinion on these matters. If it doesn't jive with your religion, or worldview, that's perfectly acceptable. But don't be an ***-hole when voicing your opinion, like Lou Holtz or Donald Drumpf. Sorry, mini-rant there.


The NBA is actually the intolerant one. They should be tolerant with the current law in NC instead of needing to push their own agenda and use their product as black mail.

And to use the word phobia would be incorrect I don't think anybody is scared of homosexuals.


I wasn't aware that the NBA had a preferred color of postage, but thank you for that fun piece of trivia...

Jokes aside, clearly we disagree here so tell me why the league should work in an area with laws that potentially limit their marketability? Forget politics. Tell me how that makes sense from a business point of view.
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Post#23 » by Mc-o » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:38 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
mattj15 wrote:
Showbiz Bear wrote:The NBA doesn't wanna be on the wrong side of history. Intolerance never prevails. I'm glad they're doing this. It's a proper foil to the rampant racial tensions and homophobia/transphobia/Islamaphobia/immigrantphobia/anythingbutoldwhitemenphobia that's perverting our society recently. We don't need PC culture, I hate PC culture, but common decency and common sense culture would be nice.

THAT SAID, everyone is entitled to their opinion on these matters. If it doesn't jive with your religion, or worldview, that's perfectly acceptable. But don't be an ***-hole when voicing your opinion, like Lou Holtz or Donald Drumpf. Sorry, mini-rant there.


The NBA is actually the intolerant one. They should be tolerant with the current law in NC instead of needing to push their own agenda and use their product as black mail.

And to use the word phobia would be incorrect I don't think anybody is scared of homosexuals.


I wasn't aware that the NBA had a preferred color of postage, but thank you for that fun piece of trivia...

Jokes aside, clearly we disagree here so tell me why the league should work in an area with laws that potentially limit their marketability? Forget politics. Tell me how that makes sense from a business point of view.

I really don't care about the NBA moving the all star game , unless it comes to Orlando , but I really doubt it would really affect the marketability of the NBA , the average fan and and average person doesn't really care about the law or really even knows what it is about . If they had the game there maybe some people would have some type of "outrage"on social media but in the big scheme
Of things it wouldn't be that big of a deal . If it really would effect their marketability , then how come they are still putting 100s of million dollars into China that has much harder laws against the lgbt community not to mention human rights issues ? Idk why they moved it but if they didn't , can one honestly say that their bottom line would be effected ?!
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Post#24 » by MagicFan101 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:35 pm

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MagicFan101 wrote:
mattj15 wrote:
The NBA is actually the intolerant one. They should be tolerant with the current law in NC instead of needing to push their own agenda and use their product as black mail.

And to use the word phobia would be incorrect I don't think anybody is scared of homosexuals.


I wasn't aware that the NBA had a preferred color of postage, but thank you for that fun piece of trivia...

Jokes aside, clearly we disagree here so tell me why the league should work in an area with laws that potentially limit their marketability? Forget politics. Tell me how that makes sense from a business point of view.

I really don't care about the NBA moving the all star game , unless it comes to Orlando , but I really doubt it would really affect the marketability of the NBA , the average fan and and average person doesn't really care about the law or really even knows what it is about . If they had the game there maybe some people would have some type of "outrage"on social media but in the big scheme
Of things it wouldn't be that big of a deal . If it really would effect their marketability , then how come they are still putting 100s of million dollars into China that has much harder laws against the lgbt community not to mention human rights issues ? Idk why they moved it but if they didn't , can one honestly say that their bottom line would be effected ?!



That greatly depends on where you are. I was in San Francisco for work at the start of the finals and that area is fired up about both LGBT rights and basketball.

The segments of the country where this sort of backwards thinking this prevails are more focused on high school football than they are NBA basketball. I would say that the average NBA fan doesn't care about this law because they can't relate to it. Of the outliers, I would say they lean heavily against this law. Hence this was the smart business move.
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Post#25 » by Mc-o » Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:41 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
Mc-o wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
I wasn't aware that the NBA had a preferred color of postage, but thank you for that fun piece of trivia...

Jokes aside, clearly we disagree here so tell me why the league should work in an area with laws that potentially limit their marketability? Forget politics. Tell me how that makes sense from a business point of view.

I really don't care about the NBA moving the all star game , unless it comes to Orlando , but I really doubt it would really affect the marketability of the NBA , the average fan and and average person doesn't really care about the law or really even knows what it is about . If they had the game there maybe some people would have some type of "outrage"on social media but in the big scheme
Of things it wouldn't be that big of a deal . If it really would effect their marketability , then how come they are still putting 100s of million dollars into China that has much harder laws against the lgbt community not to mention human rights issues ? Idk why they moved it but if they didn't , can one honestly say that their bottom line would be effected ?!



That greatly depends on where you are. I was in San Francisco for work at the start of the finals and that area is fired up about both LGBT rights and basketball.

The segments of the country where this sort of backwards thinking this prevails are more focused on high school football than they are NBA basketball. I would say that the average NBA fan doesn't care about this law because they can't relate to it. Of the outliers, I would say they lean heavily against this law. Hence this was the smart business move.

I know certain people care about it but the NBA would be fine either way . They could have easily used it as a platform on the issue , and in a way they still are . I just really doubt it would affect their bottomline . Outliers make up a very small percentage of the population , hence wouldn't really affect them . But hey they are now moving it to New Orleans who have very similar laws lol so I'm not sure what's the point . But I guess ur rt , because they moved it from NC , I'm sure they had to have some heavy pressure to move it .


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Post#26 » by Devin 1L » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:39 am

mattj15 wrote:
Showbiz Bear wrote:The NBA doesn't wanna be on the wrong side of history. Intolerance never prevails. I'm glad they're doing this. It's a proper foil to the rampant racial tensions and homophobia/transphobia/Islamaphobia/immigrantphobia/anythingbutoldwhitemenphobia that's perverting our society recently. We don't need PC culture, I hate PC culture, but common decency and common sense culture would be nice.

THAT SAID, everyone is entitled to their opinion on these matters. If it doesn't jive with your religion, or worldview, that's perfectly acceptable. But don't be an ***-hole when voicing your opinion, like Lou Holtz or Donald Drumpf. Sorry, mini-rant there.


The NBA is actually the intolerant one. They should be tolerant with the current law in NC instead of needing to push their own agenda and use their product as black mail.



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Post#27 » by ivDT » Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:37 am

Mc-o wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
mattj15 wrote:
The NBA is actually the intolerant one. They should be tolerant with the current law in NC instead of needing to push their own agenda and use their product as black mail.

And to use the word phobia would be incorrect I don't think anybody is scared of homosexuals.


I wasn't aware that the NBA had a preferred color of postage, but thank you for that fun piece of trivia...

Jokes aside, clearly we disagree here so tell me why the league should work in an area with laws that potentially limit their marketability? Forget politics. Tell me how that makes sense from a business point of view.

I really don't care about the NBA moving the all star game , unless it comes to Orlando , but I really doubt it would really affect the marketability of the NBA , the average fan and and average person doesn't really care about the law or really even knows what it is about . If they had the game there maybe some people would have some type of "outrage"on social media but in the big scheme
Of things it wouldn't be that big of a deal .


i gotta think that not moving the game would've been a big deal for their media partners.

then there's the matter of media coverage from other media outlets, especially with this being an election year and lgbt rights looking to be on the assigned short list of hot button issues.

all of the risks and none of the rewards were on the side of keeping the game in charlotte.

If it really would effect their marketability , then how come they are still putting 100s of million dollars into China that has much harder laws against the lgbt community not to mention human rights issues ? Idk why they moved it but if they didn't , can one honestly say that their bottom line would be effected ?!


yeah, if you really want to talk about something the average person doesn't care about, bring up human rights abuses in countries on the other side of the planet.

sadly, that sort of thing doesn't motivate (too many) activists in this country or boost tv ratings and internet clicks. if i had to guess, i'd say that's why the nba can pump as much money as they want into china without having to worry about taking a p.r. hit.
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Post#28 » by ivDT » Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:43 am

forgive me if this doesn't quite match the gravity of the rest of this discussion, but i just thought of something:

could the wnba do more to raise the quality of their product than allow male-to-female transgendered athletes to compete in their league? i'm thinking no.
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Post#29 » by KingRobb02 » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:00 pm

ivDT wrote:forgive me if this doesn't quite match the gravity of the rest of this discussion, but i just thought of something:

could the wnba do more to raise the quality of their product than allow male-to-female transgendered athletes to compete in their league? i'm thinking no.

It would take a huge push. First you would need a transgendered athlete with interest, and then it probably takes a lawsuit with enough backing to overpower the NBA.
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Post#30 » by Orlwillbeback » Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:19 pm

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Post#31 » by darthcheech2000 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:58 pm

About transgender women playing in the WNBA...

That time will come, however I have to ask myself, whats stopping a biological women from playing in the NBA right now? I know of no rule stating that its a mens only club.

Perhaps their absence is do to the obvious, physical differences when compared to their biological male counterparts.

If a biological male, identifying as a female wants to play in the WNBA then we're looking at a situation where they might be able to dominate the sport.

I've read about the US Womans Soccer team practicing against top rated HS and U17 mens teams before major tournaments. Those mens teams are faster and stronger, but practicing against them gives the USWNT the training they need to be the best in the world.

When we're talking about humans at the peak of their abilities, the freak athletes of the world, the physical differences are there.

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