ImageImageImageImage

Regular Season Game 56: Orlando Magic (23-32) at Milwaukee Bucks (41-13) - 9:00 PM ET

Moderators: ChosenSavior, UCF, Knightro, UCFJayBird, Def Swami, Howard Mass

User avatar
VFX
RealGM
Posts: 18,315
And1: 16,190
Joined: May 30, 2016

Re: Regular Season Game 56: Orlando Magic (23-32) at Milwaukee Bucks (41-13) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#201 » by VFX » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:37 am

Showbiz Bear wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
NotACat wrote:Definitely, AG was phenomenal on Middleton.

I can't get over the win. I was optimistic going in because Giannis was out and we cleaned up. This is a win indictive of a playoff team.


I think the Key to your Statement was Giannis was out.
Yeah, but we can't control that. We played the team in front of us and we handed the Bucks their worst loss of the year (points wise). One man doesn't make a team. They had an all-star out there (Middleton), same as us, with better role players, and we took care of business. This was a great win no matter how anyone slices it.

Sent from my SM-G950U using RealGM mobile app
p0peye
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,838
And1: 3,341
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
 

Re: Regular Season Game 56: Orlando Magic (23-32) at Milwaukee Bucks (41-13) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#202 » by p0peye » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:38 am

We should've signed Clifford instead of JV back in 2012. Smh.
Cockers
Sophomore
Posts: 100
And1: 61
Joined: Jul 04, 2018
     

Re: Regular Season Game 56: Orlando Magic (23-32) at Milwaukee Bucks (41-13) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#203 » by Cockers » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:11 am

MagicMatic wrote:
PrimeThyme wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:Don’t be fooled. It’s easy to like a team that takes advantage of a superstar-less eastern conference leader.

Maybe so. It goes beyond this game though. I just like what Clifford has done with this roster this year. Guys like Isaac, Briscoe, and Birch are really coming on at the right time of the season, AG is being used as a playmaker, and everyone is playing hard and competing every night.

As a fan of this team its hard to root against that. They are never tanking so there is no point in rooting for losses anyways. I've pretty much conceded that we are looking at a 9-13 pick this year.


Not everything is about tanking or hoping for losses. A team without their MVP caliber player changes the game drastically. Milwaukee probably looked at the schedule and considered it an off night, especially without Giannis. Do you think Orlando wins a game in a 7 game series? That being said, I like what Clifford has done with this roster with the obvious lack of talent.

I disagree with the last part of your last sentence... I also like what Clifford does, but a lack of talent?... Nah, i disagree.
User avatar
drsd
RealGM
Posts: 39,055
And1: 8,904
Joined: Mar 16, 2003
     

Re: Regular Season Game 56: Orlando Magic (23-32) at Milwaukee Bucks (41-13) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#204 » by drsd » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:39 am

Rainwater wrote:I think the Key to your Statement was Giannis was out.


Orlando's defense was fantastic and the defensive rebounding was outstanding.

Antetokounmpo playing might mean the Magic wins by 8-12 points. But this win came from teamwork.
Optimus_Steel
RealGM
Posts: 38,112
And1: 12,105
Joined: Sep 16, 2003
Location: Winter Garden, FL
   

Re: Regular Season Game 56: Orlando Magic (23-32) at Milwaukee Bucks (41-13) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#205 » by Optimus_Steel » Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:16 pm

Briscoe is sooooo much better than Grant. Grant is a dumpster fire at PG. Now that Briscoe is getting comfortable he is taking what the defense is giving him and setting his teammates much better than Grant ever could. We should cut Grant and pick up Alex Abrines. He has not shot the 3 well this year but he has a track record of good 3pt shooting.
aka: prorl
Bergmaniac
Head Coach
Posts: 7,470
And1: 11,233
Joined: Jan 08, 2010
 

Re: Regular Season Game 56: Orlando Magic (23-32) at Milwaukee Bucks (41-13) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#206 » by Bergmaniac » Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:38 pm

Having a backup PG who actually has point guard skills helps quite a bit for sure. Grant has tunnel vision.

And Birch for now is clearly a better player than Bamba so him playing would help us get more wins. His screens are really helping on offense and he just hustles so much on both ends.
Optimus_Steel
RealGM
Posts: 38,112
And1: 12,105
Joined: Sep 16, 2003
Location: Winter Garden, FL
   

Re: Regular Season Game 56: Orlando Magic (23-32) at Milwaukee Bucks (41-13) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#207 » by Optimus_Steel » Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:50 pm

Bergmaniac wrote:Having a backup PG who actually has point guard skills helps quite a bit for sure. Grant has tunnel vision.

And Birch for now is clearly a better player than Bamba so him playing would help us get more wins. His screens are really helping on offense and he just hustles so much on both ends.
Agree on Birch, he just knows how to play and help the team. Bamba still has a lot to learn.
aka: prorl
User avatar
Def Swami
Forum Mod - Magic
Forum Mod - Magic
Posts: 25,970
And1: 15,369
Joined: Aug 04, 2008
Location: Huevos Bancheros Brunch
Contact:
   

Re: Regular Season Game 56: Orlando Magic (23-32) at Milwaukee Bucks (41-13) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#208 » by Def Swami » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:09 pm

I really like where Iwundu's game has gone. He's developing more confidence in his jumper. Plays hard on defense and not afraid to put the ball on the floor. I like that he's not a ball stopper. Him becoming a solid rotation guy would be huge. Every good team takes advantage of their draft picks like this.

Shout out to Melvin Frazier Jr. for getting his celebratory windmill dunk in. Very few opportunities for the Magic 3rd string to get garbage time and MFJ had to air it out.
User avatar
VFX
RealGM
Posts: 18,315
And1: 16,190
Joined: May 30, 2016

Re: Regular Season Game 56: Orlando Magic (23-32) at Milwaukee Bucks (41-13) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#209 » by VFX » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:19 pm

Cockers wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:
PrimeThyme wrote:Maybe so. It goes beyond this game though. I just like what Clifford has done with this roster this year. Guys like Isaac, Briscoe, and Birch are really coming on at the right time of the season, AG is being used as a playmaker, and everyone is playing hard and competing every night.

As a fan of this team its hard to root against that. They are never tanking so there is no point in rooting for losses anyways. I've pretty much conceded that we are looking at a 9-13 pick this year.


Not everything is about tanking or hoping for losses. A team without their MVP caliber player changes the game drastically. Milwaukee probably looked at the schedule and considered it an off night, especially without Giannis. Do you think Orlando wins a game in a 7 game series? That being said, I like what Clifford has done with this roster with the obvious lack of talent.

I disagree with the last part of your last sentence... I also like what Clifford does, but a lack of talent?... Nah, i disagree.


K.
User avatar
OrlandO
RealGM
Posts: 21,634
And1: 16,421
Joined: May 27, 2009

Re: Regular Season Game 56: Orlando Magic (23-32) at Milwaukee Bucks (41-13) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#210 » by OrlandO » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:20 pm

Showbiz Bear wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
NotACat wrote:Definitely, AG was phenomenal on Middleton.

I can't get over the win. I was optimistic going in because Giannis was out and we cleaned up. This is a win indictive of a playoff team.


I think the Key to your Statement was Giannis was out.
Yeah, but we can't control that. We played the team in front of us and we handed the Bucks their worst loss of the year (points wise). One man doesn't make a team. They had an all-star out there (Middleton), same as us, with better role players, and we took care of business. This was a great win no matter how anyone slices it.

Sent from my SM-G950U using RealGM mobile app

Plus our starting point guard was out with a shoulder injury 8-)
User avatar
swarlesbarkley
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,061
And1: 2,157
Joined: Jun 18, 2014
   

Re: Regular Season Game 56: Orlando Magic (23-32) at Milwaukee Bucks (41-13) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#211 » by swarlesbarkley » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:26 pm

Def Swami wrote:I really like where Iwundu's game has gone. He's developing more confidence in his jumper. Plays hard on defense and not afraid to put the ball on the floor. I like that he's not a ball stopper. Him becoming a solid rotation guy would be huge. Every good team takes advantage of their draft picks like this.


Agreed. Iwundu was a joke on the court last year and now looks like he belongs out there. He's one of our better guys at getting to the rim and now he actually finishing. He's becoming a solid 7-8th guy off the bench or even a decent trade piece (for upside!) in the future.
Rainwater
RealGM
Posts: 12,152
And1: 7,322
Joined: Apr 02, 2017

Re: Regular Season Game 56: Orlando Magic (23-32) at Milwaukee Bucks (41-13) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#212 » by Rainwater » Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:37 pm

Showbiz Bear wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
NotACat wrote:Definitely, AG was phenomenal on Middleton.

I can't get over the win. I was optimistic going in because Giannis was out and we cleaned up. This is a win indictive of a playoff team.


I think the Key to your Statement was Giannis was out.
Yeah, but we can't control that. We played the team in front of us and we handed the Bucks their worst loss of the year (points wise). One man doesn't make a team. They had an all-star out there (Middleton), same as us, with better role players, and we took care of business. This was a great win no matter how anyone slices it.

Sent from my SM-G950U using RealGM mobile app


My argument is not what the magic can control but this was not indicative of a playoff team since Giannis was out. In the NBA one man does make a team, look at the Cavs this year compared to last year if you need an example. And Middleton is a guy who made the All-Star team because of record not because he actually deserved it aka Mo Williams. If you don't believe me go to the Bucks forum. Not trying to put down the Magic but this was not impressive.
User avatar
thelead
RealGM
Posts: 46,188
And1: 29,930
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
 

Re: Regular Season Game 56: Orlando Magic (23-32) at Milwaukee Bucks (41-13) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#213 » by thelead » Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:43 pm

drsd wrote:
thelead wrote:We got rid of Simmons.... Evan needs to go next. Give Ross his money and spot.


Amazed that a 3-13 shooting night for 7 points led to a team high +22 . The whole Magic backcourt played some fantastic perimeter defense.

Admittedly I wasn’t watching for all of the intricacies of team defense but Evan had a ton of defensive lapses last night
Image
User avatar
GameOver25
RealGM
Posts: 19,958
And1: 6,249
Joined: Aug 27, 2009
Location: Show ya hands!
     

Re: Regular Season Game 56: Orlando Magic (23-32) at Milwaukee Bucks (41-13) - 9:00 PM ET 

Post#214 » by GameOver25 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:36 pm

Rainwater wrote:
Showbiz Bear wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
I think the Key to your Statement was Giannis was out.
Yeah, but we can't control that. We played the team in front of us and we handed the Bucks their worst loss of the year (points wise). One man doesn't make a team. They had an all-star out there (Middleton), same as us, with better role players, and we took care of business. This was a great win no matter how anyone slices it.

Sent from my SM-G950U using RealGM mobile app


My argument is not what the magic can control but this was not indicative of a playoff team since Giannis was out. In the NBA one man does make a team, look at the Cavs this year compared to last year if you need an example. And Middleton is a guy who made the All-Star team because of record not because he actually deserved it aka Mo Williams. If you don't believe me go to the Bucks forum. Not trying to put down the Magic but this was not impressive.


Image

Return to Orlando Magic