Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXIV Off-Season Edition)

SolidSnake008 · Post #1141 » by **SolidSnake008** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:53 pm

clevermelvin wrote:After this trade, the Magic will still be better than the Nets.

J-Mezzy · Post #1142 » by **J-Mezzy** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:53 pm

Cammo101 wrote:My problem here is the Magic are not bad enough. Meer/JJ/Hedo/Baby/Lopez is way too good to make a run at a top 3 pick and way too bad to make a decent run. Limbo.

I think we have our guys "suffer" injuries

chunnyboy · Post #1143 » by **chunnyboy** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:54 pm

thelead wrote:
chunnyboy wrote:so let's say we do this. this means we suck and tank for a year right? then karma surely has to be on our side and we get a top 3 pick in 2013 and use it on shabazz muhammad - we pair the rookie SG (who's a more explosive and longer james harden with kobe-esque ceiling) with lopez who we're overpaying at that point.

that's not a playoff team yet so we go to the lottery once again and package those 1st round picks we got in the dwight trade to move up in the draft and get SF jabari parker to pair with muhammad and lopez. by the 2014-2015 season we're looking like the OKC thunder a few years ago with an over paid center (but if he's healthy can still put up 15-20ppg) - that's not so bad right?

Yes its bad. I do not want a center who can't rebound and defend in the ONE position you NEED rebounding and defense. Just remember, Bill Russell.

also keep in mind by that point lopez will be halfway through his deal and he'll also have nicholson on the frontcourt helping him out

so in this idealized future scenario i created we have

PG - someone
SG - shabazz muhammad
SF - jabari parker
PF - andrew nicholson
C - brook lopez

now, with muhammad and parker in the wings being a second year and first year player respectively that's a REALLY bright future - who's to say there won't be another melo/howard/CP3 esque drama at that point? with most of our players on rookie salaires other than lopez, we might just have the capspace and personnel to be real player in the market -

idk while we're dreaming why not imagine anthony davis and austin rivers going kobe/shaq in '04 and davis demanding to be traded to ORL? hahahahahaha

cvMagic · Post #1144 » by **cvMagic** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:54 pm

BelgianMagic wrote:
Tony Mejia ‏@TonyMejiaNBA
Now that actual parameters in place, waiting begins. For Hennigan, is cap relief, 3 late 1sts, Lopez & 3 fringe talents enough? Had heard no

Henny ain't stupid.

Gonna keep harping the same point...

HE'S ADVERTISING TO OTHER TEAMS WHAT THEY HAVE TO BEAT TO GET THE BEST CENTER OF THE PAST DECADE.

mhi · Post #1145 » by **mhi** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:55 pm

This **** is almost done yall.

Begin meltdown.

woosah · Post #1146 » by **woosah** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:55 pm

NEM wrote:
clevermelvin wrote:After this trade, the Magic will still be better than the Nets.

cocaine's a helluva drug!!

lol, sounds like "cleveland will win a championship before Lebron does." Dan Gilbert, is that you?

cvMagic · Post #1147 » by **cvMagic** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:56 pm

OrlDave wrote:I've read this entire thread (someone shoot me). Lot of Henny hate for a trade that he hasn't done yet, might never do, and might not even have had a hand in the crafting.

A voice of reason.

:clap:

RickB-Orlando · Post #1148 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:56 pm

Once again, everyone should be rooting for a trade to the Lakers, just to see the look on Stephen A's face. Everything else is about a trade for Bynum is just gravy.

Leoj · Post #1149 » by **Leoj** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:56 pm

cvMagic wrote:
BelgianMagic wrote:
Tony Mejia ‏@TonyMejiaNBA
Now that actual parameters in place, waiting begins. For Hennigan, is cap relief, 3 late 1sts, Lopez & 3 fringe talents enough? Had heard no

Henny ain't stupid.

Gonna keep harping the same point...

HE'S ADVERTISING TO OTHER TEAMS WHAT THEY HAVE TO BEAT TO GET THE BEST CENTER OF THE PAST DECADE.

+1

Post #1150 » by **FFBlitzace** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:57 pm

Damian James, Shelden Williams, and Armon Johnson are free agents. I would hope in a sign and trade scenario they'd only be getting 1 year deals.

Trying (hard) to look at the bright side, we'd be getting a ton of cap relief in this deal. J-Rich, Duhon, and Q all gone. We'd be players in 2013 free agency. Possibly an all-star player, in addition to a "pretty good" Brook Lopez and 3 first rounders. I don't think I'd call it one of the worst trades ever. It has all the ingredients of a disgruntled star dump. I think it just hurts worse because of the emotional factor of Dwight screwing us and getting his Brooklyn wish.

IGotDaMagicInMe · Post #1151 » by **IGotDaMagicInMe** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:57 pm

arent all of houston rookies higher picks than any we'd be getting in this trade?

tiderulz · Post #1152 » by **tiderulz** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:58 pm

MagicHolland wrote:There's just way too many rumors flying around for it not to be true. If this trade is finalized the Magic are not only going to be horrible, but we're not even going to be remotely close to being fun to watch.

Most likely I'll still stick with the new guys, or I'll pass on following the NBA all together. Even though Brook Lopez isn't as horrible as people make him out to be.. But if I have to watch this stiff white guy for 82 games... Horrible!

see, i think different. too many rumors for this to be true. This is Dwight, his agent and the Nets working the phones and the media to try and force the Magic's hand. No way they can take this steaming pile of a trade

Nolimit1211 · Post #1153 » by **Nolimit1211** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:58 pm

For you all thinking we aren't bad enough for a high pick, you're in for a big surprise.

RickB-Orlando · Post #1154 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:58 pm

woosah wrote:
NEM wrote:
clevermelvin wrote:After this trade, the Magic will still be better than the Nets.

cocaine's a helluva drug!!

lol, sounds like "cleveland will win a championship before Lebron does." Dan Gilbert, is that you?

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

Post #1155 » by **K_ick_God** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:58 pm

Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixSI

Kris Humphries agent, Dan Fegan, tells SI that talk of a one-year deal for Humphries is "ridiculous."

IGotDaMagicInMe · Post #1156 » by **IGotDaMagicInMe** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:58 pm

No way hennigan can ignore the all the people seeing this trade and laughing at him. . .

YosemiteSam · Post #1157 » by **YosemiteSam** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:58 pm

Bill Simmons ‏@sportsguy33
Refuse to believe 4-team Howard trade rumor since it involves the words "Brook Lopez" and "max deal." No team could possibly be that dumb.

Oh really? No team......

BadMofoPimp · Post #1158 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:59 pm

All I had to read is : Luke Walton

thelead · Post #1159 » by **thelead** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:59 pm

IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:arent all of houston rookies higher picks than any we'd be getting in this trade?

Yes

RickB-Orlando · Post #1160 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Mon Jul 9, 2012 8:59 pm

FFBlitzace wrote:Damian James, Shelden Williams, and Armon Johnson are free agents. I would hope in a sign and trade scenario they'd only be getting 1 year deals.

Trying (hard) to look at the bright side, we'd be getting a ton of cap relief in this deal. J-Rich, Duhon, and Q all gone. We'd be players in 2013 free agency. Possibly an all-star player, in addition to a "pretty good" Brook Lopez and 3 first rounders. I don't think I'd call it one of the worst trades ever. It has all the ingredients of a disgruntled star dump. I think it just hurts worse because of the emotional factor of Dwight screwing us and getting his Brooklyn wish.

Yep. That last part makes it burn more than it would otherwise.